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– Ahaus667 40 points 2 years ago +40 / -0

Blues came from classical, Jazz came from orchestral, rock & roll also classical, everything else is low IQ garbage where staccato and heavy repetition take away the ability to think.

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– Smith1980 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Blues is a mix of of field hollers, ballads, etc I thought. I think a very simplified breakdown of rock would be blues/R&B having a baby with country music. I didn’t realize how much of an influence classical had til I was in my 20s and started listening to it regularly. My mom would try to get us to listen to classical growing up but I didn’t want to because rap was so much cooler to me then. She knew what she was talking about. Plus looney tunes exposes you to a lot of classical as a kid

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– Ahaus667 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

Jazz/ Rock/ Blues all have their musical roots in European classical/ orchestral music. Bards were Celtic minstrel poets who came up with the small group to single person “orchestra” which is now called the modern band and the older term for band was much larger. Black slaves took European instruments and lyrical styles and innovated with them to create the sounds we see in jazz and blues.

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– Smith1980 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

No arguments. So they took their field hollers and applied them to a European music scale so to speak. One of my favorite old blues song is Gallows Pole by Leadbelly which was redone by Led Zeppelin. The song traces back to a Scottish ballad. That’s what got me interested in looking into more roots of music.

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– Ahaus667 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

A lot of blues has its roots in Irish and Scottish ballads, the chaotic rhythms seen in jazz can also be seen in Irish jigs. The intermingling of those cultures with black slaves is also where a lot of names (Tyrone is Irish), food (fried foods were Scottish for field workers because the coating held well over time), and social practices (anti-reading, porch lazing, slight culture) were all Scot Irish traits that the New England culture despised.

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– MassivePecorino 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Also, frying food is Energy Boosting 101. Take a cheap piece of food, coat it with breading, fry it in oil/tallow/lard. Instant calorie increase.

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– Ahaus667 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

That’s why scotch eggs were popular, eggs have always been a cheaper protein, throw some sausage on and deep fry and you have farm work fuel for cheap

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– Smith1980 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Sowell wrote about that in Black Rednecks. At least that’s when I first learned

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– CatoTheElder 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

and social practices (anti-reading, porch lazing, slight culture) were all Scot Irish traits that the New England culture despised.

Pure civil war propaganda. There needs to be a de-yankification of the US culture. Those are lies created by cafe-sitting coffee swilling stockbrokers, bankers and, merchants that have never worked a day in their lives, to feel better about genociding white straight southern males. And they have especially never worked outside in 95 degree weather with 80%+ humididty. You simply cannot work outside like that day in and day out without sitting in the shade in the hottest parts of the day. If you try, you WILL die of heat stroke.

It's especially telling that Africa and the middle east have honor killings without Scottish influence, but somehow as soon as a negro touches American soil, it's the Celts fault. Fuck off with that shit. Negros are Negros.

Sowell is a bane of American culture. There is no such thing as a former communist.

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– Ahaus667 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

It’s not. It was repeatedly shown back to Ireland and Scotland, sorry to burst your bubble. Social infighting over social status dates back to the Celts including maiming the losers. Maybe, just maybe try reading before defending trash cultures

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– CatoTheElder 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Meanwhile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_duels_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Confederate_duels

There were more duels in Maryland than in the whole of the south. And it was the English that formalized pistol dueling.

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... continue reading thread?
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– Kaarous 35 points 2 years ago +35 / -0

Two thirds of those are basically the same thing anyway.

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– JiggsawCalrissian 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

This. Thankyou

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– Sumsuch 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

You could fit all of them into three basic categories: Rock, Soul and Techno.

And they'd still be wrong.

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– BandageBandolier 34 points 2 years ago +34 / -0

They're seriously trying to claim fucking techno? I mean I know Germany's been blacked now, but Techno was originally the realm of the whitest German nerds.

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– Smith1980 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

I always considered Kraftwerk to be the Godfathers of Techno. I know early 80s had techno out of Detroit but I always considered Kraftwerk to be the founders

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– BandageBandolier 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Yeah, Detroit popularized the name, but Kraftwerk had already invented the form. Something the early Detroit artists themselves recognized even if the historical revisionists don't.

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– Smith1980 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Yep. I love early techno and “electric funk” and it was through them that I looked up Kraftwerk because a lot of early techno artists cited them and the song Planet Rock samples Trans Europe Express and Numbers. Made me go out and buy (now downloaded) all the Kraftwerk albums

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– FatalConceit 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I saw them in one of their last ever live shows.

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– FatalConceit 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Moroder started it

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– Smith1980 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

He is awesome as well. Learned about him through Donna Summer

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– FatalConceit 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

https://open.spotify.com/track/0oks4FnzhNp5QPTZtoet7c?si=e7a10e528076491a

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– Smith1980 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I have that album. I first learned about him because I love disco and saw his name attached to Donna Summer's music and looked up his other work. Definitely a major innovator.

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– FatalConceit 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It's probably Daft Punk's best Album. My fave is Motherboard

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– Smith1980 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Great album I love how they pay homage to their influences. Also love how they have Nile Rodgers on Get Lucky.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Seeing as one of the major tech heads for techno was a trans weirdo, I look forward to this fight.

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– MassivePecorino 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Or, to trace it back on the tech side, Moog and Kingsley are huwyte.

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– DwydeShrude 31 points 2 years ago +31 / -0

There has been a lot of talented black musicians but playing music doesn't make you the "inventor" anymore than flipping burgers makes you Ronald McDonald.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

I am a talentless hack that was taught to rely on my skin color to get ahead in life at a young age, so I must point to people who have no relation to me for validation.

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– Smith1980 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Amen to this.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

We wuz kangz n sheet.

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– ghostfox1_ 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Not after all the Kangs wuz arrested for assault and battery

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– cccpneveragain 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Most good music has roots in classical music. The rest is generally shit. Booming bass while mumbling sexual content does not equal music.

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– MargarineMongoose 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

I am ready to burn down the music industry in order to purge that from society.

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– Assassin47 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Someone community notes that shit.

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– MargarineMongoose 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

OP would need to be less of .jpg posting faggot for that.

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– Assassin47 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Good point. Here I did OP's work for him: https://twitter.com/634luvsic/status/1743710675472388151

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– Smith1980 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I made the mistake of saying that Rock has roots in a variety of genres. I learned never to debate with people of this mindset. Also says something about the mindset. If you are confident in who you are you don’t need to highlight every little thing. Also, a lot of music has roots in multiple genres or multiple influences

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– SoctaticMethod1 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Everything comes from technological advancements that enable ways to produce music in new ways

It just so happens that the places with the most technological advancement are White or Asian as I don't see Black or Arab dominated areas making computer advancements...

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– ShekelJa 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

blacks can literally do and invent literally everything but apparently cannot create a functioning society.

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– ParadigmShift2070 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Didn't even invent the wheel

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– nuggetpatrol 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I would argue the Bill Burr discussion about Jazz.

Sure Jazz is great, but it was beaten into you, and then sung out.

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– Schmendrick_Lamar 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Hmm...

I wonder: where did the electricity and all the musical instruments come from? 🤔

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– altmehere 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

For the sake of argument, I will accept their premise as true. And then demand to know why we put up with “Black Culture” when it has been such a net drain on society.

And that includes the detriment it has been to black people. Blame fatherlessness on white poeple all you want but it’s not whites who wrote those lyrics.

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– FatalConceit 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Giorgio Moroder would have something to say about that.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Jazz, blues, rock and roll are the only legitimate genres in this list. Everything else is derived from these and represents not a creative improvement, but a degradation of the original forms.

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– HusbandsLead 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Even if it's true, and I've been told this "fact" so many times... I assure you I'll never bother to remember, because I don't fucking care.

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– ThePipeGuy 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It's current year, the coloured people created literally everything. But the vast majority of Africa is still a shithole.

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