>Disfigured by puberty
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It is the 'correct' puberty, the problem is being too mentally disabled to see it.
They're also apparently too deficient to understand that the other puberty isn't even an option. The options are allow your biological puberty to happen or become a hybrid clusterfuck of broken systems.
Even that’s overwhelmingly generous. They will have to cake themselves in makeup everyday, have numerous cosmetic procedures, be entirely dependent on “medical care”, and dies a few decades early because your body has literally been screaming at you to stop the entire time.
I saw a troon on LibsOfTikTok explaining that going through puberty is mutilation.
No, you evil freaks. Drugging and castrating the children into being broken androgynous husks because you've taught them to hate themselves is not normal development.
Allowing their bodies to develop naturally is not mutilation.
God, and you know that teenage girls are horrifically susceptible to this as they start being confused about how to deal with male attention from their changing bodies. They already have enough problems in a normal environment 30-50 years ago with periods and breasts; the last thing they need is Feminists making them paranoid and damaged; then troons demanding they cut and drug themselves.
Let alone all the insane things that target young women like eating disorders, porn & sex work, the fashion industry which promotes insecurity, and social media.
Hey Giz!
Genuine question: If, as these people dearly wish, the procedure was to inflict surgical sterilisation upon everybody who even hinted at this at the earliest available opportunity, on the off-chance that one or two of them would benefit, would that not count as a genocide of sorts?
Yes, unequivocally.
Consider the White Genocide in Hati, or the Uyghr Genocide in China, or the Assyrian Empire's efforts at displacing and integrating the early Abrahamics (possibly Jews or proto-Jews). Or the Islamic Caliphates' efforts of exterminating ethnic groups by slavery and castration.
Castration, sterilization, eugenics, forced marriages, etc., all of these are what I would call "Breeding Control". You could call it Population Control, but that's too abstract. This is forced breeding or forced non-breeding as a political mechanism of suppression. It is usually tied with genocidal intent to eradicate both the cultural identity, and actual ethnic group of the targeted population.
There has never been a "Rebellion of the Eunuchs", there never will be, and there will never be a civilization of them either. On a societal level, Breeding Control is a social death sentence.
Gee, I wonder why the Queer Revolutionaries the follow Rousseau's logic of Civilization being oppression would want mass Breeding Control...
My god, the bitter irony of it.
A protected group that claims it is collectively the victim of "genocide" ensure their ilk will die off because they have neutered themselves. They can only replenish their ranks by making more converts from children.
They're genociding themselves!
The irony is more bitter than that.
To ensure the continuing existence of this group, they must necessarily genocide another demographic to replenish their ranks.
It's genocide all the way down...
It is gendercide.
FtM troons can stop the hormone therapy and still be fertile for the first ... five (?) years or so.
Lots of them detrans in that time. They are permanently changed, and probably will be unhappy forever, but they can still procreate.
Castration is forever.
Who said anything about not effecting boys? If anything, it clearly effects boys worse than girls by the data.
I don't tolerate the concept of woman's issues, everyone's got issues. Everything else is balkanization.
Women are weaker-willed, on average, as a generalization of population. It tends to be a neuro-chemical issue based on their hormones, and evolutionary biology of being the the child-bearers.
Porn is actually bad for you in a whole ton of specific ways, and mostly in relation to how it alters your psychology with prolonged exposure. This has larger results on society if large-scale consumption of porn is taking place regularly in society. I'd recommend Aydn Paladin's review of the psychological literature:
Even then, for women, OnlyFans is probably even worse because it promotes the development of transactional and parasocial relationships. We just don't have long enough data to condemn OnlyFans.
This explains so much
Women are the primary victims of ideologies they created now? Fuck off. Everyone sane knows they do it to claim the "male privilege" they think exists.
Even if I agreed with you that Women created Queer Theory (which I don't, hell women didn't even create Feminism), I would still say that the advocates of an ideology can be the primary victims of that ideology.
No one has ever killed more Communists than Communism. It's not even close. The solution is not to be caught next to them when they start purging themselves.
If you're willing to murder your parents in some vain hope of mitigating your mental instability, maybe they're not the problem. Maybe it's you, psycho.
Maybe join the 41%.
I said in my other comment I'd rather these people get over their bullshit and learn to live a normal life but, yeah, if the choice is between murdering your parents and 41%...they should definitely 41%. No argument.
Trans people are just like you and me!
Except for the catastrophism and the parenticide fantasies.
(And the pedophilia, and …)
...the sterilization, and the eventual social stigma/ostracism when society either collapses or extracts their head from their ass, and the choice to be enslaved to pharmaceutical companies and hospitals...
Can you IMAGINE transwomen during the proverbial “hard times” that “weak men create”? Not Current Year “ThE wOrLd Is On FiRe” meaning essentially, “some people disagree with me and my side can’t just do literally whatever it wants” but actual hard times like war, famine, depression? They would have to be culled as useless. Sustaining their delusions through medicine would cost too much and be too much of a drain on society.
Everyone say’s stopping the institutions was a mistake, I say the policies that stopped you from dropping psychotic little faggots everytime they want to be a burden on their community.
There was no deinstitutionalization, we just turned the entire country into an open air asylum.
Always remember that these people would have either been institutionalized or forced to become normal by default in our living memory. The concept of "wrong puberty" didn't exist a decade ago.
Not in the zeitgeist, but the seeds were planted decades ago.
I guess no one ever explained to these retards that the modding tools were never released. Let alone "made".
Bit of a warped analogy, but it fits with relation to how warped these idiots tend to be.
These sound like people that should be IP traced so that they can be put in mental facilities (asylums) for treatment...
These people would be in the weird wing of Arkham. The Joker would be asking for a sane cellmate.
If you stuffed them in a telephone booth and took them back to 1940, they'd be good arguments in favor of continuing the practice of lobotomizing defectives.
Ugh, not Arkham. It's one of the worst cases of a revolving door prison (okay, it's an asylum, but it houses so many deranged criminals that it might as well be a prison) ever.
Yes arkham is an asylum for the criminally insane but patients can be sent to blackgate prison as criminals, but that place has been broken too.. so, that's why Batman can't take time off unfortunately.
I'd make a "41%" joke, but honestly, I wish these people would get help and realize they're retarded cultists, and learn to live a normal life.
Also, what a absolutely stupid argument: "People who think they're the wrong sex post-puberty wish they didn't go through the puberty of the other sex." No fucking shit, morons! If you're a guy who thinks they're a girl, or vice versa...yeah, you'd wish you didn't go through that puberty. Of course. Holy fuck, I just can't with these idiots.
Oh, and further retardation. "If you're old enough to be disfigured" is a stupid statement, since it implies such negativity. "If I'm old enough to be in a car accident and lose my arm, I'm old enough to voluntarily cut it off." No, retard. Shut up.
My favorite is that “disfiguring” is growing up naturally, but not cutting off your cock and balls and then shoving objects into the wound on the regular for the rest of your life to make sure it keeps gaping, against your body’s natural inclinations.
shrug
Maybe all this madness is just Pan's revenge from beyond his godly grave.
It's what a species gets for thinking it's above the laws of Nature.
God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
I love when people just quote the "God is dead" part as if it's some gotcha. Yeah, like you say, shit like this is what we get from morons thinking they're above nature and God.
I think it's Neitzche's most terrifying statement.
I think of it as: you've taken God's life. Now you have to take responsibility for that killing. Will you take a level of responsibility that matches that of a God, or will you wallow in the realization that you are a demon who killed God for nothing?
Prophetic too.
Because what is he describing if not wokism?
That's precisely what he's getting at.
I still believe that we can take the mantel of responsibility from God, as humans, eventually. But it requires a maturity that we really don't have yet. We should be our own moral sovereigns, but we still live in far too authoritarian of a society to have enough people who would be willing to take that responsibility as it is. We need everyone to do it.
The average person is far, far worse at moral thinking today than a century ago. The bottom of the bell curve was never capable of building a conscience. The middle, though, is less literate and less able to engage with an idea for more than a minute or two, and actually forming your own moral compass requires mulling over hypotheticals for hours.
Dull people need instructions.
Average people need a prompt to get them started.
Intelligent people need guard rails to keep them humble.
Everyone needs an external source of morality, and traditional religion, when not infested with Gnostic parasites, is as good a fountain as we're ever going to get the chance to drink from.
I completely disagree.
I will say that the bottom of the IQ bell curve needs tradition, but their recognition of their own ignorance is why they don't rely on "confusin' the situation with yer fancy mathmatics'. Normally, they are going to do whatever works best for them, and then keep doing that because "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Traditions can still be co-opted, though.
Average people don't need a prompt to get them started. I actually think that is a major cultural disease of the authoritarianism of the Industrial Revolution. Human commodification promoted the idea that the average person should act like someone with less IQ: follow the instructions to prosperity... without ever taking initiative or responsibility. Thing is, the low IQ people do take initiative and responsibility, they just aren't always sure who to pre-plan. What we have today is a commodified society of people who don't take responsibility nor initiative, thanks to a syndicalist society.
Intelligent people need guard rails, but religions have typically been nothing more than a rationalization of their own ambition. Same with philosophy and ideology. I've said before, and I believe it to be true: the head of every religion and cult is an atheist. Whether it's the Pope, a prophet, the Sultan, a messiah, or a divine monarch; they all know they are not talking to God. It's why I'm an anti-theist. No institution can be trusted with the power of God. No institution is worthy of that power in the same way that no person is worthy of it.
I guess that's why I've simply deified the concept of truth. Truth isn't a moral system, but operating truthfully with a desire to benefit yourself and the others around you seems to be the best way to live life. It's certainly the way that people suffer and die the least. Moreover, truth is (by definition) external to one's self. Truth can only be internal when you create an abstraction in your head by creating a tautology or postulate. Of course it's 'true', you defined it to be true, but it is therefore not objective. If it is not an objective truth, it's not really the kind of truth we're talking about.
I think it’s more speaking to the death of the Christian religion. He’s approaching it from the idea that humans collectively need some sort of structure because they don’t have the knowledge, skill, or foresight to lead themselves into prosperity. He says “Must we ourselves becomes gods,”but the tone is disbelieving. Humans might become “gods” in the sense that we can set our own moral values and our own path, but other than that we would be gods the same way John Flynt is a woman.
That last sentence is the point. He speaks in metaphors. You're not going to literally will yourself into a God, unless you intend on becoming a political god-king.
The natural process of puberty that matures your body in a mostly healthy way
Giving puberty blockers and then hormones of the opposite sex that give you brittle bones, you grow up fucked up and highly cancerous and put you on a path of being a medical patient for the rest of your life
the only "wrong" puberty is the precocious kind. which is an actual medical issue, not your unresolved lunacy.
The last comment perfectly illustrates the problem. Glomming onto the tranny social contagion/mass hysteria is yet another way for rebellious children to hurt their parents.
Only in this case, when they reach 30 and begin to see that they were completely immature shitheads (as most of us do), it's too late and they must live with their mutilated genitals and their complete alienation from everyone but their fellow cultists.
Cry me a river.
Remember, these ideologies are descended from Marx, whose favorite quote, taken from the play Faust, was spoken by Mephistopheles:
"Including you?"
Anyone else notice how the progressive stack (+ clique/cult behavior) has them encourage teenage brattiness, while being comfortable with prison-like social structures like public/compulsory schooling and state/federal welfare. The next day, they're attacking Republican officials who support alternative schooling and vouchers, or easing child labor laws. These policies make it ever slightly easier for a minor to emancipate, and likelier to make responsible life decisions.
Deep down Leftists crave hierarchical authority, so long as it's the anti-familial, centralized, top-down variety. Similarly, they obsess about binary gender roles more than 95% of of lib-lefts/centrists/righties/apoliticals; doubling down on sex/gender over truly rejecting it. That would require not being a whore for attention and validation.
The comment is TRANS DAY OF VENGEANCE
Self hatred at it's highest recorded levels on full display.
You know, if certain conditions were met, I would agree.
Unfortunately - and this one misses this little nugget off entirely - we can't tell who is a "trans kid" and who's merely going to grow out of it by 20.
This one would surgically disfigure and sterilise whole demographics on the off-chance they saved the one or two that they care about.
How is that not the intent to commit genocide?
~97% of dysphoria cases cure themselves with the antidote known as "time".
So... Roll 1d100. On a 0-3, sterilize them as they wish, remove them from the gene pool and mess up their brains with drugs, and on a 4-99, let time cure things, don't sterilize them, and don't mess up their head with drugs.
Random chance is the most fair way of doing things.
Oh yeah! I'm a 110% sure!!