During a February 2011 interview with FOX News, Lieberman claimed that there existed a correlation between violent video games and sexual assault: "The increase in rapes can be attributed in large part to the playing out of [sexual] scenes in video games". However, in Wired magazine, journalist Jason Schreier wrote that when asked "multiple times to clarify her comments, she failed to cite a single study, statistic or piece of evidence that proved her point."
Even if he was an "incel," I think they have cause and effect backward. He seems like a textbook psychopath from what I've seen. So his "interpersonal problems" likely stem from that.
No, they are made up legal terms that generally have little concrete meanings and are shaped mostly by public usage.
The most common difference is a psychopath is crazy, while a sociopath is cold. One is unable to function in normal society, while the other is able to succeed easily because they lack empathy.
The "cause" part has no bearing on them, because you can pick easy examples of either for both "born this way" and "made this way."
Based on what I read about him he seemed to do okay socially in his grad program. Not necessarily charming but he doesn't seem like the typical socially inept incel. It sounds like the FBI agent is either lying or cherry picking evidence as FBI agents are wont to do. If the guy was an actual incel they would have found it in his internet history as blasted it on every MSM site. The fact that it didn't go down this way is telling.
Practically everyone who met him described him as a creepy weirdo. That's true of a lot of autistic-spectrum type people though (Michael Burry of The Big Short said he had no friends in college, for example).
Not sure exactly but I heard he went away for awhile/ got psych treatment or something and came back totally different. Then he stalks and murders a bunch of people. I don't believe in MK Ultra but at this point I'm starting to consider the possibility of this stuff. I bet he was on SSRIs too.
Serial killers/Psycho murderers are almost exclusively an American phenomenon and there has to be a reason why. Crazy extra-legal gov. org mind-control experiments? Who knows.
...I heard he went away for awhile/ got psych treatment or something and came back totally different...I don't believe in MK Ultra but...I bet he was on SSRIs too.
Was about to mention SSRIs. I'd actually bet he was either on them or had been on them, though. Withdrawal is often what really gets you, I've heard.
Also, MK Ultra is fact; it was a real program, there's plenty of documentation. How well it worked or whatever is another issue, or if it's still going on, but "MK Ultra" itself is/was a real thing.
No doubt, but its worth pointing out that this guy is a former agent and is a current media talking head, aka a whore paid to spout whatever opinion that the MSM wants.
I don't think so. They don't have a motive as far as I know. They're just using the guy's odd looks and the lack of (known) motive to whip up another moral panic about incels. My personal theory is that the guy is a would be serial killer who wanted to use his criminology knowledge to commit the "perfect crime" but ended up fucking it up. I think he would have become a serial killer had he not gotten caught this time. But that's just my personal theory. It makes more sense than the incel angle, that's for sure.
Kim Kenley, reportedly even contacted the FBI about her experience with him. “’He would always say, ‘Oh Kim, I think you’re very pretty.’ Just like weird comments. And she’d say, ‘Oh my God, leave me alone
Women really have 0 grasp of how their actions have consequences. When a guy is nice to a woman and that woman turns around and is incredibly mean to him in return, the man learns to despise women. The end. Cause and effect.
For sure it shouldn't be used by so-called professionals. You can't stop the media but I can't take a criminal profiler seriously if she says "incels" like it's a technical term. It sounds like some profile that was always around and they just slapped a new buzzword on it.
It sounds too much like a bad Lefty webcomic where the Chief is asking for updates to their murder investigation, and the investigator pulls out a list and informs the Chief that the suspect is "a total neckbeard, guaranteed to be a virgin, and it wouldn't be wrong to consider him a chud, either."
That battle was lost when "psychopath/sociopath" became so commonly used that people think they are actual diagnosis instead of made up scary hype words.
To meet the definition of incel now you merely have to be a bachelor rejected by a woman. That's it. We've gone from a few thousand people on topic specific forums to hundreds of millions of men in the western world, literal danger around every corner, the media tells you. This is how a moral panic is crafted.
Nothing will ever stop women from despising unfuckable losers, and unfuckable losers will never stop feeling bitter about it (can you really blame them?)
None of this is good but I'm not sure what solution these people are hoping for. Should we liquidate all male virgins above a certain age? That is a serious question.
Should we liquidate all male virgins above a certain age?
No, we should be willing to talk about why there's so many of them and be willing to deal with the root cause (ie feminism). Unfuckable losers have always existed but they've never been as common as they are today. The adult male virginity rate is at 30% and rising. We've made any social or legal measures that restrain female hypergamy a high crime against feminism, and the house of cards is starting to collapse. Our unwillingness to tell women "no" is going to be death of us.
and unfuckable losers will never stop feeling bitter about it (can you really blame them?)
I can't blame them for it but I can blame them when they constantly shit up threads about their unending obsessive hatred of women and its impossible to get them to stop.
Should we liquidate all male virgins above a certain age?
Yes, and I'm being completely serious. In times past, we'd give these males a weapon and have them attack the neighboring tribe. They'd either prevail and take their women, or they'd fail and die. Either way, the imbalance of excess males is solved.
We should either embrace tradition or otherwise cull these excess males. And it goes without saying that feminism needs to be smashed and replaced with a patriarchal society.
Because despite what Hollywood would tell you, interracial relationships are very uncommon, and thus the desirability of racial groups isn't super relevant. So most asian guys get with asian women.
For those unfamiliar with Dr. Carole Lieberman.
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Even if he was an "incel," I think they have cause and effect backward. He seems like a textbook psychopath from what I've seen. So his "interpersonal problems" likely stem from that.
Aren't psychopaths rather charming and good socially?
Those would be sociopaths.
I thought psychopathy and sociopathy were the same with the only difference being whether it was caused by nature or nurture respectively.
No, they are made up legal terms that generally have little concrete meanings and are shaped mostly by public usage.
The most common difference is a psychopath is crazy, while a sociopath is cold. One is unable to function in normal society, while the other is able to succeed easily because they lack empathy.
The "cause" part has no bearing on them, because you can pick easy examples of either for both "born this way" and "made this way."
Based on what I read about him he seemed to do okay socially in his grad program. Not necessarily charming but he doesn't seem like the typical socially inept incel. It sounds like the FBI agent is either lying or cherry picking evidence as FBI agents are wont to do. If the guy was an actual incel they would have found it in his internet history as blasted it on every MSM site. The fact that it didn't go down this way is telling.
Practically everyone who met him described him as a creepy weirdo. That's true of a lot of autistic-spectrum type people though (Michael Burry of The Big Short said he had no friends in college, for example).
Not sure exactly but I heard he went away for awhile/ got psych treatment or something and came back totally different. Then he stalks and murders a bunch of people. I don't believe in MK Ultra but at this point I'm starting to consider the possibility of this stuff. I bet he was on SSRIs too.
Serial killers/Psycho murderers are almost exclusively an American phenomenon and there has to be a reason why. Crazy extra-legal gov. org mind-control experiments? Who knows.
Was about to mention SSRIs. I'd actually bet he was either on them or had been on them, though. Withdrawal is often what really gets you, I've heard.
Also, MK Ultra is fact; it was a real program, there's plenty of documentation. How well it worked or whatever is another issue, or if it's still going on, but "MK Ultra" itself is/was a real thing.
No way lol. Plenty of examples of foreign serial killers and the most active child murderer lived in South America.
No doubt, but its worth pointing out that this guy is a former agent and is a current media talking head, aka a whore paid to spout whatever opinion that the MSM wants.
I don't think so. They don't have a motive as far as I know. They're just using the guy's odd looks and the lack of (known) motive to whip up another moral panic about incels. My personal theory is that the guy is a would be serial killer who wanted to use his criminology knowledge to commit the "perfect crime" but ended up fucking it up. I think he would have become a serial killer had he not gotten caught this time. But that's just my personal theory. It makes more sense than the incel angle, that's for sure.
Or he could have been crazy and imagined a relationship with the victim that wasn't there. That's relatively common.
Yup, I posted about this before:
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/16ZqYt7xqt/the-media-is-pushing-the-incel-a/c/
There's no evidence for this of course, because if there was every MSM outlet would be screeching about it.
Women, ladies and gentlemen.
"You're very pretty"
"EW CREEP!"
2022 was a fucking rollercoaster, jesus christ.
Women really have 0 grasp of how their actions have consequences. When a guy is nice to a woman and that woman turns around and is incredibly mean to him in return, the man learns to despise women. The end. Cause and effect.
You mean just randomly being an asshile has negative effects. You must be a man with kinda thinking
and now i think they have the wrong guy on principle
I don't mean to fedpost but killing glowie is great contribution for the society.
Incel this, incel that, everyone who uses a definition of incel that's not "a member of the incel community" deserves to be shot.
For sure it shouldn't be used by so-called professionals. You can't stop the media but I can't take a criminal profiler seriously if she says "incels" like it's a technical term. It sounds like some profile that was always around and they just slapped a new buzzword on it.
It sounds too much like a bad Lefty webcomic where the Chief is asking for updates to their murder investigation, and the investigator pulls out a list and informs the Chief that the suspect is "a total neckbeard, guaranteed to be a virgin, and it wouldn't be wrong to consider him a chud, either."
That battle was lost when "psychopath/sociopath" became so commonly used that people think they are actual diagnosis instead of made up scary hype words.
Like, this has always been what they do.
Unless they're talking about troons. The only 2 groups the "incel" label honestly applies to are self identified incels and troons.
To meet the definition of incel now you merely have to be a bachelor rejected by a woman. That's it. We've gone from a few thousand people on topic specific forums to hundreds of millions of men in the western world, literal danger around every corner, the media tells you. This is how a moral panic is crafted.
Nothing will ever stop women from despising unfuckable losers, and unfuckable losers will never stop feeling bitter about it (can you really blame them?)
None of this is good but I'm not sure what solution these people are hoping for. Should we liquidate all male virgins above a certain age? That is a serious question.
No, we should be willing to talk about why there's so many of them and be willing to deal with the root cause (ie feminism). Unfuckable losers have always existed but they've never been as common as they are today. The adult male virginity rate is at 30% and rising. We've made any social or legal measures that restrain female hypergamy a high crime against feminism, and the house of cards is starting to collapse. Our unwillingness to tell women "no" is going to be death of us.
Repeal the 19th. Letting women vote was a giant mistake.
I can't blame them for it but I can blame them when they constantly shit up threads about their unending obsessive hatred of women and its impossible to get them to stop.
Yes, and I'm being completely serious. In times past, we'd give these males a weapon and have them attack the neighboring tribe. They'd either prevail and take their women, or they'd fail and die. Either way, the imbalance of excess males is solved.
We should either embrace tradition or otherwise cull these excess males. And it goes without saying that feminism needs to be smashed and replaced with a patriarchal society.
If true, not surprising after seeing his picture. He gave some seriously weird vibes.
Despite what some data suggests is the more common ethnic group associated with such things.
Spoilers, it's Asian dudes.
Shouldn't be surprising. Asian men are the black women of the male community: the least desired.
and yet its the Asian population numbers that are going through the roof. What's going on here.
Because despite what Hollywood would tell you, interracial relationships are very uncommon, and thus the desirability of racial groups isn't super relevant. So most asian guys get with asian women.
Isn't that just immigration?
Yes. Asian Americans have an even worse birth rate than whites, but their population has exploded in recent years thanks to immigration.
Asian women are desirable.
Seems to be mostly first gen pajeets and the browner se asians.
Tbf, if someone comes up to you askin to see bobs and vagana this makes a lot of sense.
Asianmasculinity is probably the oldest "incel" type sub on reddit, and has been far more fucked up for far longer than even the incel sub ever was.
Also, studies show that a majority of incels are left wingers.