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Queen Elizabeth II died today at Balmoral (www.bbc.co.uk)
posted 3 years ago by SoctaticMethod1 3 years ago by SoctaticMethod1 +58 / -0
Queen Elizabeth II has died
Her son King Charles III pays tribute to his "beloved mother" who has died peacefully at Balmoral.
www.bbc.co.uk
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– SoctaticMethod1 [S] 35 points 3 years ago +35 / -0

Whatever your opinion on her, we now have King Charles instead which who knows how that might end up. He's seems too opinionated to last though as at least Elizabeth was very good at being snide, though she seemed to lose most her strength when Philip died last year.

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– Footsoldier 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

I've got a feeling he'll remain king for a few years before abdicating and moving aside for his only son, just to finally experience his childhood/teenage/adulthood/middle-age/pensioner dream of being monarch, and make his mark on history by being the first one to step aside because of 'old age'. I don't know or really care though.

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– SoctaticMethod1 [S] 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

There's been some speculation he might actually just be King to do all the changes and restructuring needed in the monarchy (less titles, rescinding a lot of the privileges given out) then abdicating to William.

It'd be the smart play as he gets to screw over a bunch of royals he doesn't like, give his son a clean slate and he would be King for a while but then spout his opinions again and he knows William wouldn't kick him out to the cold.

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– You_Are_Based 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

spout his opinions

Based, obviously true statement opinions that are commu-illegal, or like actual silly things?

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– Steampunk_Moustache 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

He's a kooky retard who thinks homeopathy and other 'alternative medicine' works, which is probably why he looks markedly worse than his father did at the same age.

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– BlueDrache 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Homeopathy isn't bad ... it's what we had for thousands of years before jews took over the healthcare business.

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– TomSeeSaw 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Homeopathy is stupid. You deal with grifters to get a placebo. So yes, we had placebos for thousands of years.

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– BlueDrache 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I was under the impression that it also contained herbal/traditional medicine

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– Adamrises 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Making up shit because it vaguely works sometimes through trial and error isn't exactly a very strong sales pitch.

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– You_Are_Based 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

While I'm still comfortable counting that as silly, the most interesting thing about homeopathy to me is how its proponents get treated like "antisemitic" or anti-vax people have been treated especially directly before both concepts have spiked in relevancy and popularity. With that logic though, I should probably be most worried about flat earth :P

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– TomSeeSaw 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

homeopathy and other 'alternative medicine'

He should come to Canada. He's king in this dump too. And his kooky opinions are 'facts' in this hell hole.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

King Charles

If he gets coronated under that name, he's doing it purely for ego.

Charles I was overthrown by Cromwell

Charles II overthrew Cromwell only to be a philandering sex pest with 12 illegitimate children - and those are just the ones he admitted to.

He definitely shouldn't want to be be compared to either of those.

He has the middle name(s) Philip Arthur George, so he may choose to be coronated under one of those.

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– Arkana 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Having him be coronated as King Arthur would definitely be more interesting for sure.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

It would indeed, but that's far too humorous for the crown.

If he goes by another name, I predict George, as George V and VI were both loved.

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– BlueDrache 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The meme potential would be off the charts.

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– SoctaticMethod1 [S] 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Seeing some of the reports and articles online, seems they're all running with 'King Charles III'

I mean if he copies any of the past Charles it'd be an improvement, go to war with Parliament (I'd want a front row seat to that) or bringing back Christmas!

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– Steampunk_Moustache 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

If Charles went to war against parliament I'd probably 180 my opinion on him overnight.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Day 1: Coronation

Day 2: Declare War

Day 3: Abdicate

Wouldn't even be mad.

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– Archie78 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

He'd still be a jug eared berk, just imagine the king who talks to plants with total power.

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– Knife-TotingRat 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I guess we'll see what Scotland has to say, if anything, about that "Charles III" business.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Probably similar things that were said about Elizabeth II given Elizabeth I was never Queen of Scotland what with the whole Mary Queen of Scots snafu going on at the time.

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– dzonatan 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Bring back Christmas? We never lost it to begin with.

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– bamboozler1 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It’s just been confirmed - King Charles III.

Admittedly, he hasn’t been officially coronated as such, but I very much doubt that changes now, lol…

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– CarmenOfSandiego 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

It’s just been confirmed - King Charles III.

Modern population is too stupid to follow any tradition of renaming upon coroonation.

Every time a new story happened it would go

"Today King George VII, formerly Prince Charles [because you're all too stupid to follow this], pointed with his enormous sausage fingers at some poor people and laughed."

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– CarmenOfSandiego 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

It'd be a bit strange

It wouldn't, as that's the protocol.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Cromwell (at least Oliver) was dead by the time Charles II came to England - by invitation, not by overthrowing him.

George isn't exactly an auspicious name either. And there's never been a Philip or Arthur AFAIK.

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– bamboozler1 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

There’s never been an Arthur since 1066, yes…

But if we’re talking Anglo-Saxon..?

Pretty sure there’s at least one or two with the Olde English version of that name, not just in fiction, though I could be wrong, lol…

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I thought there wasn't any before either. Unless we count Ambrosius Aurelianus. Why would Anglo-Saxons name themselves after a mythical ruler who fought against them?

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– bamboozler1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, you have a point there, I guess…

Though I thought Arthurian “legend” didn’t really settle until the early Medieval period, no..?

We really don’t know that much before Malory, do we, re Arthur..??

That was my impression, at least…

Unlike, say, the actual Macbeth…

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Though I thought Arthurian “legend” didn’t really settle until the early Medieval period, no..?

High Middle Ages (1000-1300), I believe.

Arthur himself supposedly lived in the 6th century, during the Anglo-Saxon invasions. There's also the anachronism that he defeats the 'Roman Emperor' long after there was no Roman Emperor except in Constantinople.

We really don’t know that much before Malory, do we, re Arthur..??

Actually, Malory was just a compiler. All of what he wrote about, which is not really knowledge as much as it is mythology, was just take from earlier sources and put it in a new form.

Unlike, say, the actual Macbeth…

Macbeth was an actual king, and supposedly a very good one - and the Duncan he killed was a young and incompetent ruler, not an old and saintly one.

Turns out it was King Charles after all. In England as well as France, monarchs named Charles were generally unsuccessful - with the notable exception of Charles VII.

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– reidj 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

REGIS QUONDAM REGISQUE FUTURI

No, he can't be King Arthur.

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– AbleistSL 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Charles is a known globalist conspirator.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

#NotMyKing

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– bloodguard 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The way immigration is trending in the United Kingdom Charles is probably going to be the last King.

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– bamboozler1 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

What a significant moment in history this is.

Accelerationists, rejoice.

Shit is falling apart faster than even I expected…

While this was of course inevitable, I do not think the timing could be much worse.

The Queen was one of the few things tying together the last 4-5 generations, in “Commonwealth” countries.

I gave “Western” society probably a decade. At this point, I’m not even sure we’ll last that long…

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– Steampunk_Moustache 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

The Queen was one of the few things tying together the last 4-5 generations

I don't think that can be overstated. Her long reign has made her feel like a constant. It's not just the last 4-5 generations, it's the last 4-5 generations of the entire Anglosphere.

She had the good fortune of becoming Queen when she was young and beautiful, at a time when, while the British Empire was already crumbling, the overall Anglosphere was arguably at its absolute zenith of power over the rest of the world. On top of that, she miraculously lived an entire lifetime free of any major scandal or controversy.

Charles approaches the throne as an old husk with a history of opening his mouth on matters that nobody wants his opinion on, who cheated on a publicly beloved wife, who then died young and tragically.

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– bamboozler1 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

On the Queen when young, I do recommend “A Royal Night Out” for a bit of fun fluff…

Admittedly Sarah Gadon is way more attractive than Liz ever was, but yeah…

It’s genuinely a good film.

On that connection… I know people who got to meet Liz (more than 10, weirdly), so I find this quite… Momentous, as you say.

God it’s a weird moment…

My parents reacted with complete antipathy, though, so that’s interesting, ha.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Admittedly Sarah Gadon is way more attractive than Liz ever was, but yeah…

Sarah has a prettier face for sure, but from the neck down, Liz's titties are victorious.

My parents reacted with complete antipathy

I don't personally care for the queen or the monarchy either, but I can't forsee a way in which her death doesn't further destabilize the west.

Charles isn't even remotely likeable. He's got almost nothing but negatives surrounding his public perception. At a bare minimum, this is going to put the commonwealth at risk of more nations leaving it, which will alter the political systems of those nations, and in time, set them all on different trajectories. We have for better worse, we have lived in an Anglosphere that has been largely united in its direction of travel, but that may be about to significantly change. The world is about to reshuffle, and anything could happen.

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– bamboozler1 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Hahaha I guess I’ve just never looked at the Queen herself in that way, lol…

Though I admit the “secret footage” of her and Charles swanning it around the pool, early in their marriage (can’t remember exactly when) were not bad, heh…

I guess I just have a thing for (depressed, Canadian, stage-acting) blondes? 🤔

But yeah, you may be right, ha.

I’m sure we’ll see a bunch of early photos of her over the next few days, so, uhh, I’ll see whether I agree, I guess, heh.

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– bamboozler1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

So after hours of this shit all morning - you’re right, lol…

Sarah is taller/leggier than Lizzie ever was, though, and is a natural blue-eyed blonde - so I think that’s partly why I find her more attractive, lol.

I clearly have a type, ha…

Yeah, I don’t like any of them, but I’ve always thought Charles was an entitled douche-nozzle…

Phillip was more my kind of person - witty, low tolerance for BS, but of a dick. And Edward seems alright, as do Fergie’s kids, relatively speaking. But yeah, fuck the rest of them, ha.

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– Footsoldier 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Wonder if they'll take the opportunity to take off the monarch's head from coins?

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– bamboozler1 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Yeah, especially considering the Australian dollar has literally only ever had her face on it, since it’s inception!!

I actually don’t know specific details, but I believe that it remains legal tender until the Mint takes it out of circulation (how they decide when to do that, or recoup the cash, I do not know)…

Given inflation here, I actually unironically wouldn’t be surprised if they (sadly) take some of the smaller (silver, like the American dimes and nickels, essentially) coin denominations out of circulation, sooner rather than later, use this as an excuse, and simply don’t replace them…

Unfortunately. I find that rather sad, but it suits their agenda just fine…

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– Footsoldier 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

We're all going cashless anyway, so it won't matter. It is depressing.

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– Knife-TotingRat 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I don't want a politician's head on our coins. Fuck politicians.

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– Footsoldier 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Klaus Schwab isn't a politician.

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– dagthegnome 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

If politicians are bottom feeders and swamp life, Klaus Schwab is a cockroach. Ubiquitous, pestilential and difficult to eradicate.

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– Vicious_snek6 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

That makes 'eating ze bugs' even worse.

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– WhitePhoenix 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's inevitable if the UK is as cucked as Canada is.

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– Knife-TotingRat 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

This is the beginning of the end.

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– Telia 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Reminder. When she took the throne UK was 99% White. Now Whites are the minority in schools and in the largest cities, and children get raped by foreigners and all this happened under her watch. And if you say she couldnt have done anything this is not true. She has the power to dissolve parliament, she is a unifying figure and the military would have followed her 100%. Instead she betrayed the British people and has a Rothschild as a financial adviser.

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– Grumman 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

This is unfortunate news. My impression of her was of a fair but impotent head of state, one who could have done more to protect the realm, but wasn't an agent of its destruction. I can't imagine that whatever happens next will be as good.

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– WhitePhoenix 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

To be fair she was kind of like a minarchist's dream. She didn't run the state, she hardly made decisions that swayed essential activities, and she generally stayed out of the business of UK politics. She was more of a symbol of UK unity and nothing more, but that wasn't necessarily a bad thing because she basically existed to keep people united, without any use of force either.

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– Sneak_King 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

As far as monarchies and empires go, England has a strong 'minarchist' history. The crown was practically a night watchman state through the whole age of sail.

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– WhitePhoenix 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, that's why I emphasized on minarchist and not anarchist because obviously their government wasn't an anarchy. Part of the reason why everyone, even far leftoids and people who we view as our political enemies have respect for her was she seemed to have stayed the fuck out of everyone's business. In her later years she spent more time being "the world's grandma" (in the good sense, not in the bad nanny state sorta way) by trying to build relationships, rather than alliances, if that make any sense.

FFS even Putin who despises the Western leaders of the world spoke highly of her.

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– Adamrises 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Honestly, if all heads of states could be described that way most of them would be an improvement.

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– SarcasticRidley 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

And now the world ends.

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– GiveThemNothing 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Until we drive a stake through her heart, we won't know for sure.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 32 points 3 years ago +32 / -0

laughs in Spain

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– censorthisss 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

Spain is definitely a top tier feminist shit hole

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– Gizortnik 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Dude, this is a HUGE gap in your knowledge.

You're complaining about the possibility of "emotional abuse" in one state being used to justify lethal force in self-defense, at least when you are talking about the US.

In Spain, everything is worse, at every level, in every part of the country. It's not even close. Fucking Christ, the leading cause of death for men is suicide. This is because of their infamous "Integrated Protection Measures against Gender Violence Law". Remember Title IX Tribunals? Remember The Duluth Model? Remember Family Court? Put them all together in one legal system and amp it up to 11, and that's what Spain has.

  • Spanish Feminist Establishment is Shaking - (a history of modern Spanish feminism's attack on due process and human rights)
  • Gender Stalinism Part 1
  • Gender Stalinism Part 2
  • The Shocking Rape Trail that Galvanized Spain's Feminists - and the Far-Right - It's an enemy propaganda piece, but just listen to what they are actually detailing. 5 men had consensual sex with a woman. They were sentenced to 7 years in prison. The Guardian treated it as a victory for rapists.
  • Our man: Kukuryo's write up on Spanish Feminism My favorite part is where the government has intentionally tried to hide statistics so that it appears that women never kill their husbands or boyfriends. There's your "legalization of murder". What murder? No woman can murder.
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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's an enemy propaganda piece, but just listen to what they are actually detailing. 5 men had consensual sex with a woman.

On what evidence do you say that it was 'consensual'? Legally minded as you are, you'd surely have stated 'not demonstrated to be non-consensual' if you did not think that the contrary case had been established.

While being mindful that it is propaganda, it seems far more likely to me that it was rape than not.

“Are we bringing burundanga [a date rape drug]? I got reinoles [another date rape drug] at a really good price. For the rapes,” a message read.

This is so 'comic book villain'-tier that I almost think that they made it up. But if true, even though it was not talking about this incident, they most certainly are not 'innocent' - even if this particular case was not demonstrated.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Legally minded as you are, you'd surely have stated 'not demonstrated to be non-consensual' if you did not think that the contrary case had been established.

I decided not to be pedantic because I was tired?

While being mindful that it is propaganda, it seems far more likely to me that it was rape than not.

Her claim was that even though she wanted to have sex with them, hit on them, and followed them into a room, only once they had sex did she become "frozen with fear". That's her claim. According to the piece that is arguing from a position of support for her. I don't buy that shit for a second.

This is so 'comic book villain'-tier that I almost think that they made it up. But if true, even though it was not talking about this incident, they most certainly are not 'innocent' - even if this particular case was not demonstrated.

Innocent against the crime alleged. Last time I saw a claim as flimsy as this it the group of men weren't called a "wolf pack" but the "Scottsboro Boys". They got sentenced to death... 3 times... and eventually got acquitted.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I decided not to be pedantic because I was tired?

Ah, well that does make a lot more sense.

I don't think it's pedantry though. It's the difference between "proven not to be crooks" and "not proven to be crooks". It's of crucial importance.

Her claim was that even though she wanted to have sex with them, hit on them, and followed them into a room

The piece was too boring and disturbing at the same time for me. I didn't get the "she wanted to have sex with them" part. I did read how unlikely it was for a young girl to approach five men and say that she wanted to have sex with her, which is true enough, but still only circumstantial.

Innocent against the crime alleged

OK, so they're attempted rapists or people who wanted to rape, but they just didn't rape this girl - or weren't proven to have done so?

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I did read how unlikely it was for a young girl to approach five men and say that she wanted to have sex with her, which is true enough, but still only circumstantial.

You aren't going to night club scenes in hive cities where this shit isn't even almost abnormal. A lot of young women in those scenes are absolute fucking slags.

OK, so they're attempted rapists or people who wanted to rape, but they just didn't rape this girl - or weren't proven to have done so?

Due Process is a bitch, but that's why we have it.

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– bamboozler1 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I’m not sure I would class Aus and NZ ahead of Finland and Spain (and Denmark), frankly… Nor the UK.

Bad? Sure. But nah, that’s not the correct interpretation, here.

The Nordics are objectively more feminist than here, sorry to tell you.

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– bamboozler1 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

That’s one law.

Do you really think Sanna (or even Mette) could have ever been Prime Minister in any of the four, except maybe NZ..?

It simply would not happen, and that video (or any of the previous ones) would have seen her well and truly gone by now…

It’s a sliding scale, and, I assure you, the Nordics are further along it than we are…

And struth, I know Grace Tame, dude. Trust me, I know what the situation here is…

Finland is still worse.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I think a dead horse could be PM of the United Kingdom if women wanted it.

Did "women" want Boris Johnson? They sure didn't vote for him in majority AFAIK. But I'm sure you'll claim that he was bribed and blackmailed behind the scenes, or something.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

I'll bite my tongue for now

[x] Doubt

but

Well that lasted long.

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– AntonioOfVenice 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

It's not as if it was difficult for anyone to figure out what you meant. You're not nearly as subtle as you think you are.

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

At least you have the decency to bite your tongue. What happened? A while back you said that you had no problem with the Queen.

But I assume you think things will be better under Prince Charles.

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– Adamrises 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

People were saying semi nice things about a woman in his presence. He couldn't let this stand.

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– SoctaticMethod1 [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Just a personal theory of mine but I think because the commonwealth was formed from concession, compromise and decline it was easily infiltrated by feminist, more racial oriented groups.

If instead of trying to remain the empire, there was a focus on restructuring but shared vision (like more national independence for countries within the empire but shared military and trade network) there might have been enough strength to resist and hold off these groups.

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– Adamrises 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You continue to show your complete ignorance outside your little bubble by somehow not thinking South Korea doesn't top any and all Commonwealth nations.

They still have open feminist terrorist groups committing real physical attacks, and had a literal all female shadow cabal put a female puppet as president for them to act through within the last decade.

Not to mention Spain easily being more insane by any metric you could name, and adding a few more you'd not even imagine.

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– herg 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

In South Korea whilst their feminist groups are very extreme, the push back against them is also much stronger than in other countries. So they are a very spilt country.

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– Adamrises 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Fair, but I'd say the fact that they exist at all is the point. Things like that don't get to just occur, but with backlash, unless your starting point is "feminist hellhole."

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