Queen Elizabeth II died today at Balmoral - Kotaku In Action 2

Queen Elizabeth II died today at Balmoral (www.bbc.co.uk)

posted 2 years ago by SoctaticMethod1 2 years ago by SoctaticMethod1 +58 / -1

Queen Elizabeth II has died

Her son King Charles III pays tribute to his "beloved mother" who has died peacefully at Balmoral.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Legally minded as you are, you'd surely have stated 'not demonstrated to be non-consensual' if you did not think that the contrary case had been established.

I decided not to be pedantic because I was tired?

While being mindful that it is propaganda, it seems far more likely to me that it was rape than not.

Her claim was that even though she wanted to have sex with them, hit on them, and followed them into a room, only once they had sex did she become "frozen with fear". That's her claim. According to the piece that is arguing from a position of support for her. I don't buy that shit for a second.

This is so 'comic book villain'-tier that I almost think that they made it up. But if true, even though it was not talking about this incident, they most certainly are not 'innocent' - even if this particular case was not demonstrated.

Innocent against the crime alleged. Last time I saw a claim as flimsy as this it the group of men weren't called a "wolf pack" but the "Scottsboro Boys". They got sentenced to death... 3 times... and eventually got acquitted.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I decided not to be pedantic because I was tired?

Ah, well that does make a lot more sense.

I don't think it's pedantry though. It's the difference between "proven not to be crooks" and "not proven to be crooks". It's of crucial importance.

Her claim was that even though she wanted to have sex with them, hit on them, and followed them into a room

The piece was too boring and disturbing at the same time for me. I didn't get the "she wanted to have sex with them" part. I did read how unlikely it was for a young girl to approach five men and say that she wanted to have sex with her, which is true enough, but still only circumstantial.

Innocent against the crime alleged

OK, so they're attempted rapists or people who wanted to rape, but they just didn't rape this girl - or weren't proven to have done so?

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I did read how unlikely it was for a young girl to approach five men and say that she wanted to have sex with her, which is true enough, but still only circumstantial.

You aren't going to night club scenes in hive cities where this shit isn't even almost abnormal. A lot of young women in those scenes are absolute fucking slags.

OK, so they're attempted rapists or people who wanted to rape, but they just didn't rape this girl - or weren't proven to have done so?

Due Process is a bitch, but that's why we have it.

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