Why, though?
Why is this the hill the left has chosen to die on..??
This predates Floyd. Arguably it goes back much further than that, but modern leftists... Seem to have made this "their lot", this last... Decade. Why? Why do we think that is??
Not books, not movies, but statues and buildings. Why the fuck is this the left's current game?
The culture wars have, as I say, come to my home city now (thanks, leftist cunts), and I do actually have a dog in this fight, as a result.
Tips on how to fight back appreciated.
Oddly, this is being done expressly against the wishes of ratepayers, only weeks before an election is due to take place, for that council. It is very, very dubious timing, to say the least.
I know these people personally (the councillors), so while they ain't gonna listen to me, you can sure as shit bet I am going to use that to my advantage, here, lol...
Who'd have thought this would come home to roost quite like this...
Statutes are symbols of culture.
All authoritarians believe in taking control of culture and destroying all cultural rivals. The Taliban demolished ancient Buddhist statutes. The Chinese Communist Party destroyed countless temples and religious/cultural monuments and buildings.
The Left wants to destroy America's past and denigrate America's history and make everyone feel bad about being an American, so they can come in with "hey, you want to feel better? take a deep sniff of this communism stuff I got right here, ALLL your troubles will go away".
Literally everything on the Left leads back to cultural marxism. It's the whole foundation of the modern left.
More than just culture, they are symbols of history. A shared history that the people of that area can connect with. If you deny somebody their history it's far easier to write in your own and have them accept it.
This is one thing that Asha Logos helped illustrate quite well to me in his Subverted History series.
This right here. Statues are physical reminders of history.
Is Asha Logos a far leftist?
No, the first video he uploaded was on the horrors of the Bolshevik Revolution.
Every great nation in the beginning of civilization would tear down the statues and religions of the previous rulers, so they could put in their own. It continued to today.
why are you using authoritarian as a catch-all bad man buzzword exactly like our enemies?
by these standards i would be equally 'authoritarian' and thus by connotation a bad person if i "took control of culture" and melted down that bronze georgie floyd of fentanyl statue. but hopefully we can both agree here that it'd be a good, healthy idea.
Because they are all authoritarians? You ever hear of anyone who wants to control what people think, how people act, and what people believe without being an authoritarian? No you haven’t because being any of those things makes them an authoritarian.
The only authority is God, not a weak, corruptible human being like you
and that lightning strike was an inanimate object with even less right to authority than me, but it still took down that mural....
I'd imagine it's in the same vein as their proclivity to erect abominable modernist buildings that everyone knows look like shit. They want to break down anything unique about an area so that it better conforms to their implicit globalist outlook.
Also, particularly for statues, they can claim a moral high ground because the person probably said nigger in a personal letter to a friend at some point and your average normie isn't going to care a super whole lot to fight for a statue if doing so is going to label them as racist.
"When a nation cares about its history its buildings reflect that" is something Tucker said years ago talking about depressing buildings Democrats build.
I would argue the same goes for statues, they want to replace the old statues that are beautiful with new ones that degrade the population, not elevate them. Post Modernism can only destroy that which is beautiful to replace it with something ugly so as to destroy beauty and meaning of statues.
Amusingly, I found a hyper-local example of almost exactly this, lol...
https://tasmaniantimes.com/2022/05/land-council-decries-maps-with-offensive-place-name/ (the site is woke as shit, don't sue me, lol)
You heard about that stupid fucking rock somewhere in the US that the "black student caucus" demanded be removed, I assume..?
"hmm, titima, trefoil... temdudheker lol what? Colliboi.."
"oh. kek"
What, Stone Mountain? I'd be delighted to see them try.
Nah, this one lol: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/12jvuAYufM/university-of-wisconsin-students/c/
I think this may even have been the first place I read about it!
Absolute narcissistic bullshit, that one, ha... And they even interrupted a native burial site to move it. No joke. Because "pyramids of oppression", and all that shit...
Guess the rock should have worded its letters more carefully.
They will
They’re too stupid to get up that high without killing themselves.
I meant they will pressure the state of Georgia to blast it off. It’s just a matter of time
Because, like any good Cultural Revolutionary, they seek to re-write history to serve their narrative. Monuments are reminders of people or events past that do not comply with their preferred revolutionary narrative - very visible ones - and so, must be destroyed for the revolution to proceed.
We are in the midst of a soft social revolution. Statues are easy targets. They don't fight back. Going after confederate statues were the easiest of those targets because whites have been conditioned to fear any conflict involving race politics because they almost always lose....their jobs over it.
When we sit by and watch all the easy targets eliminated, they'll come to eliminate us. They'll march us out into the streets to confess to and apologize for crimes we never committed and then shoot us in the head like so many other social revolutions.
Worryingly, I can actually picture your last paragraph, because Covid, in parts of Australia, was actually not that dissimilar to that… Except without the actual… Shooting part.
I won’t let them take me “peacefully”, though, if and when that does come. I’m far too angry a person for that. I never stand by, when I see this sort of shit go down (and, unfortunately, I have). It’s like, an inherent character trait. Which means I’ve nearly been killed more than once, but hey, it’s better than standing by and watching, as an example, a rape or a lynching go down (India, for those interested. I saw some very dark shit)…
I would fight back before they took me, or those I loved. And I’m not just saying that, either.
Shoot me where I stand, and all that…
A wonderful grandstand, but... Ever wonder why those execution camps worked?
They were told "we're moving you to a new location that has better access to food supplies. When you arrive: wash up, then you will be given dinner and put to work based on your ability to work."
They weren't told "line up here so we can shoot you". They were fully informed of the exact opposite. In fact, it's highly likely that the person giving the train announcement thought that was indeed the plan, simply a new work camp, in order to even better sell the lie.
And as COVID proved, 99+% of the populace is perfectly fine with simply being moved by the government for one reason or another.
I'm not saying to go fedposting. Just saying that information is a more valuable resource than "anger" or "never standing by" or even "guns". WW2 has battles that were German vs German, of those who knew vs those that didn't. Keeping informed, and keeping as many others informed as possible, is vital.
I appreciate that, but did you see Australia, these last two years..??
Did you see what happened to Zoe Buhler..??
You think I’m gonna stand by while my (theoretical) pregnant girlfriend gets taken away by the gestapo for questioning the narrative..??
I didn’t say anything about killing anyone (in Minecraft). I am simply saying that standing by, while the fucking dogs drag your family away, and they WILL try, is simply not good enough, in my book… As is just standing there and filming it, while still not stepping in. It’s weak as piss.
So, if the day comes, and it may well do, like hell I’m going to go quietly, when they come, in such a way, at some time when I “am least expecting it”, or whatever…
Get the fuck out of Australia my man.
Trying, dude. Trying…
Easier said than done, unfortunately!!
But yeah.
because we've shown them that they will not die on this hill and they can keep toppling statues with no repercussions
Ngl, it does worry me how easily the “average” person, even someone normally seemingly “intelligent” or at least not stupid, acquiesces to this shit and goes along with it…
Just like with ‘Rona…
It’s amazing, really. Just like any other period of history, where “the masses” were conned by the media to go along with it (uncontroversially, I’m going to raise Rwanda, here. I don’t think anyone is going to dispute that one. Also the “Cultural Revolution”, as another posted pointed out) - we really do never learn…
Yeah, you're 100% right. This is from a few years ago, but, uhh, very much proves your point, lol: https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/city-of-sydney-to-change-name-of-napoleon-plaza-following-criticism-name-celebrated-cultural-yobs/news-story/96cf572b9cd214f6bc90c80a6efbbcb5
I think there was less than 10 people who wrote in to complain. Possibly literally only one. That's the sort of "minority rule" we are dealing with, here, no joke...
I'll first start with statues properties.
First of all, they are pretty much immortal. Unless a statue is subjugated to harsh weather or natural disaster, it can easily last for thousands of years. The oldest commonly known statue: Löwenmensch figurine is approx 35 to 40 thousand years old.
Now here's another property of statues.
It's a bookmark to culture that it created. By just looking and wondering about it you already set yourself up to ask questions about its origins. Questions like: Who made that statue? Where did the maker lived? What was he like? What kind of techniques or materials he used to make it? What motivated him? What is the statue purpose?
You ask yourself those questions and then you start to wonder, maybe even research about it if you're interested. You slowly gather knowledge, introduce yourself to new ideas and so on and so on. Chances are you might discover some old forgotten truths that could be very relevant and useful in modern age. You might even find out that old methods are in fact better than new ones.
Now imagine that powers that be see all this as a threat to their rule.
That's why.
Huh. The world's oldest statue is a lion-man. And one of the oldest paintings is of a deer-man. I like it.
History's sci-fi cyborgs. Take the traits of powerful things, and add them to humans. Now it's computers, back then it was deer and lions.
Statues aren't just symbols of culture, they are a focal point of it.
Authoritarian societies repeatedly build statues for propaganda purposes because it helps to solidify the established narrative as part of the aesthetic of society.
The Left recognize this fundamentally and seek to have these statues destroyed as a way of attacking the established narrative and cultural aesthetic. They then put their own statues up to re-assert their own for the exact same reason.
Relativism cannot abide permanence. Statue's are meant to be permanent reminders of certain truths.
When you can't even define 'woman', statue's must seem like Satan.
Idiocracy needs no Statue. Idiocracy can abide no Statue. Idiocracy can build no Statue.
Idiocracy will have statues. In the form of strange, ugly modern art and consumerism.
Idiocracy is moving backwards to communicating with little drawings rather than writing, too.
They seek to destroy all evidence that your ancestors ever existed or ever had any culture of their own.
They seek to eradicate the past and make you live only in an ever-changing present.
This was actually said by an Aboriginal politician, Warren Mundine.
Yeah, Mundine is a good egg. As is Jacinta Price.
Notably, both of them are much closer to their communities, and have much… “Fuller blood”, than the family (and yes, it is literally ONE very prominent Abo family) pushing to tear this statue down, where I am…
The patriarch of said family was personal friends with Gaddafi (no, I am not making that up), so… I guess that’s all you need to know, really, lol…
Symbols of the past must fall to give rise to the future. Progress marches forward and all that, right side of history, whatever. The puritans never went away, they just shed what little Christianity they had and are still marching to their "Zion."
Delusions of grandeur. They saw the historical moments on tv and want to be like them. Saddam Hussein's reign ended with statue toppling, which was widely celebrated and broadcast, and they want to be part of that kind of moment in history. It's also why we saw so many rioters posing with a fist pump over the carnage.
The same reason the Taliban destroy them. They are symbols and to their religion, no symbolism but their own may exist. Taliban, Left wing, they are both extreme, violent, religious doctrines can can abide no other.
Back in the third century when Christianity was established mobs of Abrahamists went around breaking statuses. This also happened in Egypt during the reign of Akhenaten.
Those 15th century BCE communists were evil as fuck.
Worse, abbos.
Worse, even. Greens and “queers”…
This ain’t the Abos making the decision. They just pressured those that actually have the power…
One of them is an early-20s “queer enbie”, who was, when she still “identified as female”, the youngest person ever elected to council… Then she decided to drop her gender and name, and somehow got voted back in… And then ran for state politics, for the Greens, and (thank god) promptly failed at that one…
Yeah, I’m not making any of this up.
I wonder if your local government has people with sandniggery names.
Or, overrun with females in power.
It’s the latter. Like, 100% that. Female mayor. Female majority council, I believe. Two of the surrounding councils also have the same situation (out of, I think, arguably 6 for the entire metro area)…
Balance of power is held by, yes, the former… Although in this case he is almost certainly a Hindu… Could even be a Buddhist, actually.
But anyway, yeah, one of those…
So unironically yes, lol. And this is, very literally on the other side of the world, to the US/UK…
Almost literally as far away as you can get, geographically, if not culturally (obviously)…
Because they believe in a nihilistic philosophy (postmodernism).
I like how you never had to say who or what the statue depicts. No seriously, if this was some place like reddit some idiot would ask "What statue?" but here almost everyone agrees it shouldn't fucking matter when it's a historical monument.
Haha I wish it was Seattle, but nah, nowhere that cool…
Australia, unfortunately…
First one in the country to be targeted for removal, directly for this reason/in this wave…
Look up Crowther, if you want to find it.
If you erase all sign posts to the past, obviously books and information access on the Internet is one but also statues, place names, architecture, family structures etc it is a lot easier to warp a person's sense of reality and accept a new belief structure.
Think of statues as one of the wake ups we have, they are reminders of history so everytime someone thinks they can repeat the past mistakes again just with a new coat of paint, we can point to them of why it's a failed idea.
It's not. It's one of their many avenues of attack. They're not exclusively focused on it, it's just one thing they're doing. And it meshes up perfectly with their attack on curriculum, among other things.
It's absolutist moral crusade to them because they believe the people and ideas represented by the statues are evil oppression incarnate, even when they just depict people who were basically good but had any flaw.
I know this from personal experience where my relatives said they supported taking down the Lee statue, which was just a bronze guy on a horse with the sign only saying "Lee". And their reason they gave for wanting it torn down by a mob was the statue "oppressed African Americans". The only way this could oppress blacks is if they learned just enough to know the actual person wasn't bronze-colored, but too little to know Lee was a great general who was actually against slavery.
Wanting to tear down statues isn't the problem. Example, when Sadaam was overthrown they tore down his statues were destroyed but almost everybody is fine with that - because he actually was a sadistic evil person and the statues were actual symbols of oppression. The problem is that the left's moral judgements are completely insane and they're intolerant of any flaws no matter how small.
So I decided to wade into the discussion on the local media Facebook page (but of course)…
Guess what happened soon after?
Bloke with a defaced picture of Groot as his profile pic, and a profile that looked, let’s say, as fake as it possibly could, decided to call me a “racist bigot who doesn’t even know what woke means”.
“How could you possibly oppose this? I bet you would have owned slaves, if you still could.”
Yes, really. And that was just the beginning of it…
It’s almost like these people, if they are real, and not just bots, select from a fucking script/list of prompts…
It is so… Inorganic, even the word choice, that I fail to believe these NPCs can be real people, or, if they are, that they have any real life, offline…
Oh, you want an example of their patron saint, for funzies..?
Look up Grace Tame. She was fucking Australian of the Year, last year, so she passes the notoriety test.
We grew up literally a few streets from one another. We have “mutual friends”. We graduated (from different schools) the same year. We most definitely know the same people…
And yet..? Never in my life have I seen someone so bitter and twisted, who is using her notoriety and “fame”, now, to fuck with people’s lives…
Dumb bitch (getting into dubious territory, here, I know) was married to fucking Abigail Breslin’s brother, who acted in the Cat in the Hat, for a while, before she unceremoniously divorced him and ran back here to fuck with things some more…
SJWs (like the one I mentioned, re Facebook) fucking LOVE her. And yet, if she isn’t a fucking whirlwind of trouble, I don’t know what is. I’m 100% sure she will use this statue debacle to ingratiate herself with the usual types. She ALWAYS does.
She’s essentially an inverse of me: similar life experiences (except that I’m male, obviously), similar background, completely opposite “political persuasions” and (now) direction in life…
And yet she gets praised heaped on her, to the teeth, for it…
Bad, bad times at the El Royale…
Feminists wants to rewrite history. The statues represent the wrong history / reality that feminists want people to believe
Look up what iconoclasm is.
Statues/monuments are a representation of the country's successes - it's shit that scares the fuck out of leftists because it reminds them that these motherfuckers who have statues and monuments built after them accomplished far more than an average speptum ring fat fuck rainbow haired cunt would ever accomplish in one lifetime.
Because they want to rewrite history. Reshape society in their idealistic image.
You’re Australian, too, right? You know where this is, don’t you..?
Shit’s absolutely fucked, here… Like, to the point of being almost as bad as Melbourne…
I do not know how it got to this point, but it’s absolutely wild…
I’ve lived in plenty of other places in this country. None, bar Melbourne and maybe parts of Inner Syd (and perhaps Freo), struck me as being as divided as this place is now…
Not even the Northern Rivers or Blue Mountains, which is saying something, lol…
There’s a storm brewing, here, and I worry what the end result may be…
Send halp, lol…
Idols and temples are holy to the Powers. Old habits die hard...
Update: so the family (and yes, this is one massive family pushing for this, not the broader “Aboriginal community”) behind this iconoclastic attack on the statue, here, has taken to threatening councilors who disagree on social media…
That’s where we are at, now. Threats, from (extremely white, Elizabeth Warren-type) Abos, to people in power who don’t immediately give in to their demands, and go against broader community wishes…
Jfc… 😑
Because they are told to. You think these idiots have their open ideas?