What is your personal theory about Jan 6. I am curious no matter how wild it may sound. I remember when it happened I figured some over zealous Trump supporters got out of hand. I never dreamed there would be this insane level of hysteria over it. I was initially shocked about the hand wringing over this after seeing the destruction of the summer of love as well as seeing other groups protesting at or in the capital. It is hard for me to take seriously the idea that it was an insurrection because if their goal was to take over the government that was a pretty lousy effort and same goes for Trump. Plus you got people still in jail over this.
What do y'all think is behind all this? I also find it odd how there is no curiosity about Ray Epps.
We all lived through it, saw the unedited livestream footage from it, and despite all evidence see how that compares to how media is treating it.
It doesn't take much imagination to conclude EVERY "historical" event we think we know about was treated the same way. Someone pushing an agenda crafted a narrative and used either directly controlled connections or sympathetic fellow travelers to propagate it throughout the culture. The average people don't know any better because they don't realize the utter corruption of every supposedly reliable institution.
Think about the people around you now that believe anything on CNN. Now imagine around 100 years ago when most people didn't travel more than 50 miles from where they were born, only had one newspaper in town and only that one rich guy owned a radio. How easy it would be to spread an agenda.
Yea I remember we learned about that in high school and even then I felt the students were more at fault
It took me a long time to learn this, but it cannot be overstated:
There are two sides to every story. Not every side is going to be plausible or legitimate, but people generally don't do evil things without some form of justification in their own minds.
I despite people who cannot see the humanity in their enemies. How can you learn from a situation if you just assume your enemies are evil and unthinking sadists?
A lot of our enemies are evil and unthinking sadists.
I think evil requires intention.
People who do evil things but are incapable of understanding the gravity of their actions are seen as less than evil. It's why you need to be competent to stand trial for heinous crimes.
There are vanishingly few people in the world who are intentionally evil. Most people aren't good, either, just... respond to stimuli and act on the moralistic story in their head. It doesn't mean good people don't do evil things, it just means most people don't see them as evil while they're doing them.
I think there definitely are those one that could call evil, someone like Klaus Schwab for example. Most of the masses though, those are there with good intentions but very ill informed opinions. I used to be a lefty, I voted for the fucking commies because I thought they were in the right. It took me my own research and some things like gamergate or the German migration crisis from 2015 to change my mind entirely on it all. I don't think I am evil, I don't think I was evil back then, just ill informed.
Just painting a whole group as evil is a bit too much. Granted as I said there are evil people out there, just not as many as one might think.
Hmm. Evil and unthinking...
Tell me more, Mr. "women are literally hitler-stalin-satan and are responsible for every evil under the sun". Surely you have an unbiased, nuanced opinion on this.
Great point. So very true.
Case in point: the American Civil War. It was because there were more slaves than free men, and everybody owned slaves, right?
Wrong. In 1860, there were over 31 million Americans, of which fewer than 400,000 owned slaves... 1.25%. There were about 1.8 million slaves, so less than 6% of the population. Yes, that means in modern America, we have twice the per capita amount of bLacks, compared to the time where "slaves built America." (They didn't, most engineering crews were immigrant whites and Asians.)
So, what was the reason why so many common Southerners, of which 98.75 percent didn't own slaves, fight? Well, maybe the fact that so many Confederate adopted flags based on the one from a 50 year old event should be a clue. The politicians were fighting to save their economic hides. The commoners were fighting to teach the damned Yankees to keep their noses where they belonged.
Commoners were fighting because they feared another Saint-Domingue. Harper's Ferry and the resulting beatification of the cretinous half-retard John Brown by abolitionists did not help. "Abolitionists want us all dead" is an easy sell when abolitionists are celebrating a man who tried (very poorly) to do just that.
e: While John Brown was trying to seize real weapons, it was the improvised polearms that were used to convince southerners that they were in danger. The improvised weapons were sent to southern governors, senators and anyone with influence. Knives tied to poles aren't any threat to an armed man but are perfect for slaughtering women and children.
Oh, good, at least one other person has read Dr. Clavin's book. Yeah, in the run up to war, the slave revolution rhetoric was definitely a booster to the Southern firebrands. After the fighting started, however, a lot of it died off, and got replaced with "go kill Yanks, boys!"
It was actually Thomas Fleming's A Disease in the Public Mind, but Clavin's book looks interesting. I may read it next.
Honestly? It’s the deep state flaunting. They are showing that their npcs will allow them to trash the constitution however they want. The fact we have “media” running second hand hearsay and pretending it’s a “trial” shows that people still eat up headlines. You could run a video showing lgbtq teachers grooming kids in classrooms and still have people go Bernie Sanders on breadlines.
Not much of a theory, just the obvious: a protest that the feds tried (and succeeded in) entrapping people.
Probably the "wild" part is that Trump doesn't care for the victims.
And people should've known better.
Think about it: how many people got assaulted and had their property vandalized for simply wearing a hat, posting a sign, or putting a sticker on their car that showed support for Trump? I'm not even mentioning stuff that's out of Trump's control, like people losing their jobs/friends/family for supporting him.
On the flip side, look at how much Trump did for certain ethnic groups, from programs to pardons. Mind you, these ethnic groups would never vote for him and hated everything his platform was about.
A part of me wants to feel sorry for the J6 prisoners, but they really should've known better. Some people only learn the hard way - and some of them haven't even learned.
The icing on the cake might be that Trump wanted to send 20k troops to fend off his supporters on J6. How about sending 20k troops to where Antifa is protesting or, better yet, crack down on Antifa like this government did to the KKK.
Anyway, I digress. This whole thing was, and is, a kabuki theater.
Yea my “spider sense” was tingling when I first heard about the rally. People should’ve known how it would play out.
The people most likely to attend were already deep in the Q rabbit hole-- they WW1GWAG'd right into a trap and were made political prisoners and examples of right at the center of the propaganda piece the incident became.
They thought they were 'the storm,' that Trump would back them, and they got blown out instead. Betrayed and abused by the system.
Makes me agree with Kennedy: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
The Uniparty and the 'fortification' of elections won on Jan 6th, while Trump proved (between this and operation warp speed) that he won't be saving us when push comes to shove.
It was a day for black pills.
I'll be the 1st to admit that I fully expected antifa resistance instead of "assistance". Ironically, it was almost as peaceful as I thought it would be without antifa, but the feds didn't expect it that way and their plan for incitement kinda went pear-shaped as a result.
That tends to me my view as well. I lean a step further and think it was a bit of a parting gift from the Trump admin to the intelligence agencies. They immediately used the incident to justify expanding their power, particularly that of the Capitol Police.
Idc for the victims either. It was stupid as fuck to do. It was a damned temper tantrum and accomplished nothing
Here's a picture of a real insurrection in progress: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Romanian-Revolution-in-pictures-1989-1152x759.jpg
Compare that with the shots of the Jan 6 "rioters" not even knocking down velvet ropes.
What is happening now with the "hearings" and purging the military is exactly what was meant to happen, although they perhaps wanted to instigate more violence and hoped the place would burn down. Even though nothing much happened in reality they're still pretending it did and going with the original plan which looks very silly to anyone paying attention.
Exactly. With these one sided hearings you would’ve thought Trump ordered the military to declare him the Victor.
Pretty simple:
electronically sealed doors do not open themselves.
Pelosi refused Army. Protest. Alphabet incitement. Byrd murdered Babbit etc. Trump said go in peace. Pence refused his duty. Biden installed. Propagandachik advances insurrection. J6 arrested as political prisoners. Lez Cheney helms "investigation". We all suffer.
Not really a theory, just a series of leftist public craps.
Sixth day of January. Wonderful weather for a walk in Maryland, Virginia region. No dramatic theories.
Good way of looking at it
I would still argue some glowies were egging them on amongst the masses of people who went into the capitol on January the 6th. The majority though were idiots as you said.
It is a show trial based on a Big Lie and is the latest and probably not the last desperate attempt to prosecute Trump.
The interesting thing about the series of failed witch hunts is that Trump is actually gaining credibility and potential 2024 votes because of them.
This tells me that many many people understand the process: the corporate media, sucking up to the DP by becoming their PR machine, is desperately trying to avenge their absolutely pathetic pronouncements on the 2016 election, when they were en masse proven to be idiots blinded by their delusions about their wisdom and influence.
The more the media machine piles on Trump, the more people flock to him as their underdog hero.
There are some questions on why security was not tightened and the protestors were allowed in, it is also suspected that FBI agents were on scene.
Trump may have been out of office but he was successful enough, he was unapologetically pro-America, anti-immigration, anti-identity politics, anti-SJW woke nonsense etc. Trump may have been defeated but he opened the door for others to campaign on this things.
Unfortunately for the Democrats, the big scary protestors were a group of funny, likable patriots walking around the capitol building and being mildly disrespectful. It did not help that the only victim, outside of AOC, was a protestor.
Since they had little coming November they decided to go ahead with the initial plan of using January 6, maybe they could not destroy the image of Trump but at least they may win in November. There was no reason not to go ahead with the totally not biased hearings.
I'm tired af so imma just say the Pleiadians did a false flag to make the lizardpeople overextend themselves
Actually aliens/UFOs/paranormal are a guilty pleasure hobby for me so I’ll buy your theory.
It's what Erdogan did in Turkey: foster a "coup" that didn't even try to achieve the objectives of a coup, so that he could crack down on his political opponents.
The entire thing was a psy op that got disproven quickly. The riots beforehand were shown to be paid for, and we have videos showing what happened jan 6. Even the paid for protesters were nice.
A ton of trickery has happened over the years, and slowly people have figured out it was fake. Now we know. The evidence is glaring.
I look at it as a change of reality that can't be undone.