Both are extreme behaviour, but so what, at this point?
If we're to tackle moral degradation, willing prostration to magical sky kings on the regular is so far behind the normalization of drugs like alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, and etc., the normalization of society-wide prostitution with the whole "explore myself" free decade for women and the whole onlyfans thing, the jewification of financial and educational systems, the suppression of civil liberties, and a dozen other things that dont immediately spring to mind that you can't even see it in the mirror.
Religion and religiosity is going to have to, by necessity, be one of the last problems of the human condition to be solved.
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You guys need to sit down and figure out if you want to accuse him of being a jeet, a kike, or a nigger.
You're all over the place now. Keep it up and we'll freeze your white privilege cards until you figure it out.
Ah, yes. The lesser male, whose existence is mandatory for the continuation of the species, who fulfill a task the greater male is biologically incapable of doing.
Fuck off, dude. Men and women serve different purposes for the species. Women being bad at male things is exactly as much an indicator of inferiority as men being bad at female things is.
I think we simply need to formalize an exceptions process to any restrictions we put in, and set an objective standard that both sexes must meet.
Imagine it like non-pozzed PT standards for soldiers. You set it by the high standard, which typically only men will meet, but you neither lower the standard for women nor forbid women who can pass at the men's level from serving in roles they qualify for.
Do the same thing for cops, firemen, judges, etc. Pass the objective standard, qualify to have the job. Fail, disqualified, come back next year if you want to try again.
The biggest challenge would be designing objective standards, but there's a reason these things take groups of experts months or years of study and debate to properly implement. It's not impossible, merely very difficult.
Are you actually retarded or do you honestly believe the whole "women were kept in the house as domestic slaves" modern narrative?
Women can do just fine in fields that don't require physical superiority or logical reasoning, and historically did so for all of human history where not artificially suppressed. Hell, the first computers were just that, offices of women given figures and told to compute sums and differences.
I'm all in on the whole "women aren't, generally, fit for positions of power", but that's not because women are some sort of lesser version of a male. The two sexes are complimentary, not antagonistic.
That's barbaric.
Just drop a few MOABs on them instead.
And before anyone accuses me of being a jew shill, I remind you that an enemy of an enemy is not a friend, merely an enemy's enemy.
The only foods you eat with your hands are finger foods, plus things like sandwiches.
Anything else, and you're a chimp. A civilized person uses a utensil to eat anything loose, wet, sticky, or drippy.
Its not trolling if its sincere.
And my absolute lack of tolerance for people getting into dick measuring contests over how their imaginary super sky friend can totally best up the other guys imaginary super sky friend has years and years of sincere vitriol behind it.
It always boggles my mind when people around here can't see it. Everyone can immediately identify that men can't become women, or that jews as a social group are brought up in an evil, self-aggrandizing, narcissistic cabal, or that watermelon felons are a blight upon our society, or any of a dozen other things rooted in observable reality, but say one thing about their invisible, intangible, inactive magic sky king who totally does shit up until humans invent photography (at which point, feeling shy, he stops with the whole "miracle" business), and here we are.
Its absurd.
I'm glad you bring up Jefferson's bible, because it actually underscores the crux of my argument (and which I'm really not sure how you got "what about"ism out of).
My issue, as was Jefferson's, is the magic and mysticism of the bible (and, by extension, every other religion). Yes, leftism currently holds the reigns of power, and has held them with more vim and vitriol then the bible thumpers did a few decades ago. No, this is not a reason to embrace the viper of the "deus vult" types to your breast.
Consider this a simple "Scorpion and Turtle" allegory. The scorpion must sting, for that is its nature. The theist must expand the church, for that is his nature. If you accept the theist into your fold, you must either immediately and permanently hobble him, or else understand that he will continue to push the envelope until he has seized the reigns of power.
Magic and mystical thinking must never be accepted. This means no gods, no men becoming women, no magic soil, none of that horseshit. While it is true that, for example, a large portion of writing survived into the modern era only because christian and catholic monks and monasteries endeavored to save them during the dark ages, this doesn't erase the face that the majority of incorrect "folk knowledge" stemmed from religious or "mystical" practices, and the majority of religions would purge what came before them as heretical, the same way rising dynasties often destroyed records of prior dynasties (look to china as an amazing example of the latter, or afghanistan under the taliban for the former).
And don't get me started on all the people who try to blame all human evils on "demons", and insist we need jesus to come back and purge them to cure all of society's ills, instead of accepting that it is evil humans who do evil, and the only solution to evil humans is non-evil humans standing and sacrificing in opposition.
This is my line in the sand. No gods, no demons, no wizards; only men and the cold, uncaring universe we happen to exist in.
Brother, were you by chance alive during the Satanic Panic(TM) from a few decades ago?
I'm not fishing for anything, just honestly curious, because I myself lived through that, as well as decades of other nonsense that only happened because "God is Good, Jesus is King" Christians held institutional power.
I look at this from the lens of an old, jaded man who has seen both tines of the horseshoe. All the bullshit of modern leftism, of the church of "The Science(TM)", and etc. is simply all the bullshit of conservatism and bible-thumpery from decades past wearing a different trench coat.
There are many, many ways in which we can inoculate our society against destructive outside influences (and destructive inside influences) without simply changing masters from the man in Washington to the man in Rome. If you can recall the society of the 1990s and 2000s, for example, when the net was nascent and we didn't have the centralized control nodes we do now, most people were quite resistant to both being told "go to church or god will be upset" and being told "use my pronouns or big brother will be upset". It took over a decade of centralized, dedicated psy-ops and cultural control mechanisms to get us to our current state.
We must simply restore the liberty which has been taken from us. The rest will follow.
And nothing, not a single damned thing, will happen by simply praying about it, or by demanding people submit to god.
Traditions, ethical and moral lessons, and social cohesion structures, absolutely.
But you don't need magic sky king to serve as the bedrock for a civilization. You can recognize the human wisdom of the books without subscribing to the mysticism and bullshit.
And if your moral structures fall apart without an omniscient magic sky tyrant to enforce them, perhaps there are flaws in the system to address without discarding them wholesale.
Honestly. I don't give a damn. I know most of you guys are too far gone in the cult to be pulled out. You've built a lot of your identities around the lie, to the point where the truth personally offends you.
I gainsay the hive mind because someone has to, even if it's the equivalent of Sisyphus pushing the boulder up the hill again.
Well, considering you're using some technology that would get you burned as a witch two hundred years ago, we have, in fact, benefitted quite greatly from moving past "sky king is angry" as an explanation for why it's raining.
You need the moral and ethical traditions, divorced from the mysticism mumbojumbo. You can follow the good moral teachings from your preferred holy text without grounding it in "two thousand odd years ago, a magic bush caught fire and some goat herders heard a mountain talk". Present your bible as a collection of human lived wisdom, and you'll get far less pushback.
Please, tell me more about why your imaginary magic king is cooler then their imaginary magic kings.
Seriously, this is why you guys lost generations of youngsters. You bang on the bell of "but muh magic sky king" in an era where you can't simply tell people bullshit and expect them to blindly accept it, and you utterly refuse to focus properly on the traditions and cultural heritage that allowed the west to rise to such great heights. And then you wonder why people don't all suddenly accept your idea as fact and come to church on their own.
Lay off the mysticism and focus on the real part, the human element. You'll see some dividends pretty quickly.
I don't want the invading brownoids charged as adults.
I want them in a mass grave. I dont care if this is glowposting. Enough has got to be enough
They dredged the silt on the bottom of the river to extract buried garbage.
I cannot imagine a scenario where disturbed silt is worse then toxic runoff from decaying illegally dumped garbage, but I'm sure some moron can tell us about a species of tiny fish that'll be negatively impacted.
God botherers are always like that. It comes with the territory.
Nah. Go fuck yourself.
Fella, I came to the USA around the age of five as an immigrant. I've been here over fifty years, and I'm more fucking American then a lot of younger people these days.
Don't throw out the baby with the kikes.
Can I get some of whatever magic your devil monster thing is handing out?
I'm assuming you have some clue for its providence, with how confident you are about the slurce, and I'm always in the market for blasphemous life extension.
Oh, any chance you have some sweet adenochrome? I finished my last baptized baby the other day, and I'm starting to get...cravings.
I'd say into a mass grave, but then someone would say I'm fedposting.
We should build a wall around india, and mount AA missile batteries around it. We can let them out whenever they become humans.
Are you a child?
How did you type "mods" like a kid screaming "mom" or a karen screaming "manager" and not die of cringe while writing it out?
Was there ever any doubt that there'd be nigger jungle beats in a current year slop production?
Hell, I played Atomic Heart for the first time a few months ago, and I was surprised and taken pleasantly aback to hear proper classical music over the loudspeakers in the opening. Proper slavic slop.