the kike financed Churches never fought for Christian values to begin with, right now they're fully showing their hand and their alliegence to demons (HaShem/Allah/Vishnu etc...)
i actually wonder, will they criminalize being a "jesus Worshipper" could last week i saw some zogbot being deported from the zog force because he had a Christian bible in his locker
Please, tell me more about why your imaginary magic king is cooler then their imaginary magic kings.
Seriously, this is why you guys lost generations of youngsters. You bang on the bell of "but muh magic sky king" in an era where you can't simply tell people bullshit and expect them to blindly accept it, and you utterly refuse to focus properly on the traditions and cultural heritage that allowed the west to rise to such great heights. And then you wonder why people don't all suddenly accept your idea as fact and come to church on their own.
Lay off the mysticism and focus on the real part, the human element. You'll see some dividends pretty quickly.
Traditions, ethical and moral lessons, and social cohesion structures, absolutely.
But you don't need magic sky king to serve as the bedrock for a civilization. You can recognize the human wisdom of the books without subscribing to the mysticism and bullshit.
And if your moral structures fall apart without an omniscient magic sky tyrant to enforce them, perhaps there are flaws in the system to address without discarding them wholesale.
Sure, I agree with you. I’m agnostic (because I feel that being an atheist is the same as being a theist), but I value very strongly the Greco-Roman-Christian roots of Western civilization. They ARE the bedrock of our modern civilization, liberalism (in the original sense), individualism, and a great many other core philosophies.
The point is that modern leftism and progressive leftism in particular has, in Hegelian terms, defined itself as the ANTITHESIS of this. It’s not that moral structures fall apart without “sky daddy,” it’s that the enemies of Western civilization attack each and every tenet of belief and philosophy.
Conservative religion is kind of like a vaccine against forced progressivism.
the kike financed Churches never fought for Christian values to begin with, right now they're fully showing their hand and their alliegence to demons (HaShem/Allah/Vishnu etc...)
i actually wonder, will they criminalize being a "jesus Worshipper" could last week i saw some zogbot being deported from the zog force because he had a Christian bible in his locker
Please, tell me more about why your imaginary magic king is cooler then their imaginary magic kings.
Seriously, this is why you guys lost generations of youngsters. You bang on the bell of "but muh magic sky king" in an era where you can't simply tell people bullshit and expect them to blindly accept it, and you utterly refuse to focus properly on the traditions and cultural heritage that allowed the west to rise to such great heights. And then you wonder why people don't all suddenly accept your idea as fact and come to church on their own.
Lay off the mysticism and focus on the real part, the human element. You'll see some dividends pretty quickly.
I don't think you can talk about Western traditions and heritage and not include Christianity.
Traditions, ethical and moral lessons, and social cohesion structures, absolutely.
But you don't need magic sky king to serve as the bedrock for a civilization. You can recognize the human wisdom of the books without subscribing to the mysticism and bullshit.
And if your moral structures fall apart without an omniscient magic sky tyrant to enforce them, perhaps there are flaws in the system to address without discarding them wholesale.
Sure, I agree with you. I’m agnostic (because I feel that being an atheist is the same as being a theist), but I value very strongly the Greco-Roman-Christian roots of Western civilization. They ARE the bedrock of our modern civilization, liberalism (in the original sense), individualism, and a great many other core philosophies.
The point is that modern leftism and progressive leftism in particular has, in Hegelian terms, defined itself as the ANTITHESIS of this. It’s not that moral structures fall apart without “sky daddy,” it’s that the enemies of Western civilization attack each and every tenet of belief and philosophy.
Conservative religion is kind of like a vaccine against forced progressivism.