I'm glad you bring up Jefferson's bible, because it actually underscores the crux of my argument (and which I'm really not sure how you got "what about"ism out of).
My issue, as was Jefferson's, is the magic and mysticism of the bible (and, by extension, every other religion). Yes, leftism currently holds the reigns of power, and has held them with more vim and vitriol then the bible thumpers did a few decades ago. No, this is not a reason to embrace the viper of the "deus vult" types to your breast.
Consider this a simple "Scorpion and Turtle" allegory. The scorpion must sting, for that is its nature. The theist must expand the church, for that is his nature. If you accept the theist into your fold, you must either immediately and permanently hobble him, or else understand that he will continue to push the envelope until he has seized the reigns of power.
Magic and mystical thinking must never be accepted. This means no gods, no men becoming women, no magic soil, none of that horseshit. While it is true that, for example, a large portion of writing survived into the modern era only because christian and catholic monks and monasteries endeavored to save them during the dark ages, this doesn't erase the face that the majority of incorrect "folk knowledge" stemmed from religious or "mystical" practices, and the majority of religions would purge what came before them as heretical, the same way rising dynasties often destroyed records of prior dynasties (look to china as an amazing example of the latter, or afghanistan under the taliban for the former).
And don't get me started on all the people who try to blame all human evils on "demons", and insist we need jesus to come back and purge them to cure all of society's ills, instead of accepting that it is evil humans who do evil, and the only solution to evil humans is non-evil humans standing and sacrificing in opposition.
This is my line in the sand. No gods, no demons, no wizards; only men and the cold, uncaring universe we happen to exist in.
I'm glad you bring up Jefferson's bible, because it actually underscores the crux of my argument (and which I'm really not sure how you got "what about"ism out of).
My issue, as was Jefferson's, is the magic and mysticism of the bible (and, by extension, every other religion). Yes, leftism currently holds the reigns of power, and has held them with more vim and vitriol then the bible thumpers did a few decades ago. No, this is not a reason to embrace the viper of the "deus vult" types to your breast.
Consider this a simple "Scorpion and Turtle" allegory. The scorpion must sting, for that is its nature. The theist must expand the church, for that is his nature. If you accept the theist into your fold, you must either immediately and permanently hobble him, or else understand that he will continue to push the envelope until he has seized the reigns of power.
Magic and mystical thinking must never be accepted. This means no gods, no men becoming women, no magic soil, none of that horseshit. While it is true that, for example, a large portion of writing survived into the modern era only because christian and catholic monks and monasteries endeavored to save them during the dark ages, this doesn't erase the face that the majority of incorrect "folk knowledge" stemmed from religious or "mystical" practices, and the majority of religions would purge what came before them as heretical, the same way rising dynasties often destroyed records of prior dynasties (look to china as an amazing example of the latter, or afghanistan under the taliban for the former).
And don't get me started on all the people who try to blame all human evils on "demons", and insist we need jesus to come back and purge them to cure all of society's ills, instead of accepting that it is evil humans who do evil, and the only solution to evil humans is non-evil humans standing and sacrificing in opposition.
This is my line in the sand. No gods, no demons, no wizards; only men and the cold, uncaring universe we happen to exist in.