He was still kind of a tradcon and pushed for censorious shit I think, but he also was liked by a majority of his country and was a huge nationalist. I would've supported him wanting Japan to have an actual military to defend itself as well.
Supposedly (and I can't find this alleged interview at all, with the following being found only on forums and social media and a few sketchy websites with no links to source), Abe wanted Zelensky to be American puppet, with Biden "forcing" him to do his Bidding:
“Maybe the war could have been avoided if Zelensky had been forced to pledge that his country would not join NATO, or had been forced to grant a high degree of autonomy to Luhansk and Donetsk in the east,” Abe noted, according to ‘The Economist’.
Moreover, the former Japanese PM added that US President Joe Biden could influence Zelensky to change his position.
Ukraine has been asking to join NATO since the 1990s, officially since 2002 (positively received by NATO with the signing of the NATO-Ukraine Action Plan in November of the same year).
The president in 2002 was Kuchma, before picking Yanukovych (then his prime minster, and currently a traitor in Moscow) as his successor. This what he said in 2022:
Throughout my long life, I have never felt so much pride, pain, and anger as I have these day. Willingness to self-sacrifice always live in our hearts. It's just like a volcanic eruption: it's hard to wake up but impossible to contain. No one is ever able to restrain our people when they rise for their Homeland. For our future. For our freedom. I stay at home, in Ukraine, because we are all in our Homeland, there is no other. And we will defend it together until the very victory - without division into party columns, without personal interests and old arguments. United we stand around the Flag, the Army, and the President. Ukraine is no Russia. And it will never become Russia. No matter how hard they want this. We are already winning. And this can’t be stopped. And I will only say to the Russian Federation that I agree with the words of my compatriots who say in one voice: damn you all!
Kuchma, Yushchenko, Poroshenko (who has just been on trial accused of treason for his dealings with the separatists but now is leading his own fighting unit), all are united behind Zelensky in the defense of the nation.
(They might well start bickering again after it is over.)
That shit doesn't mean shit for shit because the photo is from Abe meeting leaders of tons of shithole countries so it's not an endorsement of any of the current eastern european slap-fighting one way or the other.
Prime Minister Abe welcomed President Zelenskyy’s visit to Japan and stated, “It is a pleasure to hold the first meeting with President Zelenskyy,” and commended the President’s “efforts for improving the situation in Eastern Ukraine and for domestic reforms.” Prime Minister Abe explained, “Japan is one of the largest donors to Ukraine”, and “intends to continue our support to the reform efforts of the Government of Ukraine.”
Oh no, Abe was proudly bankrolling the "vile feminist regime"!
At the time of the visit,
Kyiv enjoys warm relations with Tokyo as Japan has not recognized Russia's takeover of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula in March 2014 and has imposed certain restrictive measures on Moscow for the move, as well as Moscow’s support for separatists in eastern Ukraine in a conflict that has killed more than 13,000 people since April 2014.
"Ukraine is, of course, an independent sovereign country with a recognized border," Japanese Ambassador to Ukraine Takashi Kurai told the Kyiv Post in July. "I do respect the people who are here who have been fighting for the freedom and independence of this country."
Japan has given Ukraine $50 million in humanitarian assistance meant for war victims, plus nearly $2 billion in grants and loans since the Maidan pro-democracy movement ousted former President Viktor Yanukovych from power in February 2014.
Japan has also donated some 1,500 cars for Ukraine's revamped police force and provided money and advice for the country’s beleaguered health-care system.
Also just showed it to Imp to calm him down because he was seriously tripping.
The president in 2002 was Kuchma, before picking Yanukovych (then his prime minster, and currently a traitor in Moscow)
Obviously, I don't agree with the batshit claims trying to connect this to Ukraine, but I would not say that he is a 'traitor' for having had to flee for his life by 'peaceful' 'demonstrators'.
He's is a traitor for siding with foreign invaders.
Also he didn't have to "flee for his life" at all. They didn't even ransack his ridicalous palace when they came, they were more gentle in touring it (abandoned) then the visitors of January 6 (no breaking windows or shouting, unlike some Americans at the Capitol building): https://youtube.com/watch?v=_HN3yZVKP9g No one was being killed anywhere (well, except of Right Sector's Sashko Bily, shot by the cops for being unruly, and the disappeared Tatars who tried to protest the Russian coup in Crimea, and even these deaths came later), so please just stop your histrionics.
Yanukovych only fled to both avoid prosecution for his crimes and preserve some of his illegally amassed wealth, which he did successfully before even an arrest warrant was issued against him (Poroshenko later surrendered to his warrant lawfully after losing power in turn, and was put on trial in person, for treason too).
I don't know why do you feel this urge to sympathise with and cover up for a blatant criminal (even a convicted thug in his youth) and international fugitive from justice just because he was impeached? It's very sociopathic.
He's is a traitor for siding with foreign invaders.
It's all a matter of perspective. You could also say that Russian speakers who side with the Kiev regime are 'traitors'. Same as with the US Civil War, they call Robert E. Lee a 'traitor', but he was also faithful to his state (which was the norm at the time).
Also he didn't have to "flee for his life" at all. They didn't even ransack his ridicalous palace when they came, they were more gentle in touring it (abandoned) then the visitors of January 6
That's when he was gone though. It makes zero sense for him to make an agreement for new elections and then flee the next day, but for the fact that government forces withdrew and he was at the mercy of the mostly peaceful protesters.
Yanukovych only fled to both avoid prosecution for his crimes and preserve some of his illegally amassed wealth, which he did successfully before even an arrest warrant was issued against him
He could have fled at any time though.
Poroshenko later surrendered to his warrant lawfully after losing power in turn, and was put on trial in person, for treason too
A Ukrainian leaders who does not end up in prison seems a rarity. I'm sure that if Z (the irony) makes peace, he'll later on be accused of treason and imprisoned.
I don't know why do you feel this urge to sympathise with and cover up for a blatant criminal (even a convicted thug in his youth) and international fugitive from justice just because he was impeached? It's very sociopathic.
I know he is a convicted thug, and that he is a corrupt bastard, but a traitor he is not. Being a thug and a corrupt bastard miraculously only come into play when someone resists American hegemonic ambitions.
Not Lee, but some hypothetical corrupt deposed Colonial governor who fled to London with stolen money after the independence but before the British invasion and never returned.
You talk like if he escaped some bloodbath. No one was killed, not any of his associates, or Berkut members or anyone, and they didn't even trash his home.
(Sashko was walking with an AKSU bullying various allegedly corrupt officials for internet videos, he too didn't kill anyone, they killed him later.)
Yeah, Zelensky shouldn't become a traitor. What a novel concept.
"American hegemonic ambitions" supported Yanukovych when they tried to salvage his presidency against the EU wishes ("fuck the EU!").
We were lied to about the human population "naturally" levelling out at 5 billion, the crack addicts that are economists are lying to you now.
Oh, and never give to starving niggers. Don't breed more than you can feed, welfare bitches. If deer going hungry in the winter is "overpopulation", then so are humans who think it's perfectly OK to spit out litters of brats in a fucking desert. Having all your kids live nowadays is nice, but it just means you don't need so fucking many.
(Thought this was the other thread)
Fuck the Chinese and their goddamn dog-eating festival. Hell upon all of them.
For Imp it is business as usual. In fact, he's more moderate than he used to be because he got slapped down for R16 violations. He used to call women 'Nazis' and 'our worse halves' in every comment.
For all his derangement, I don't think he is as behaviorally deranged as the above glowie. All his crazy is concentrated in his views. But if the subject of women did not come up (fat chance), I think he would appear fairly normal.
RIP to Shinzo Abe.
He was a competent nationalist leader who generally managed to put the interests of the people of Japan over globalist cabal interests.
Truly sad to see him go out like this. He deserved better.
What are the odds that of the 99.9% of politicians who are corrupt scum, a member of the 0.1% gets shot?
RIP.
Easy, 99.9 + .1 = 100% chance of happening!
Those odds are extremely good and that worries me.
Thoughts and prayers to Abe’s family.
But don’t forget the far left utilizes every high profile shooting :
1 - Leftists really hated Abe
2 - It was a homemade gun - basically only a metal tube
3 - If the far right had shot a PM, then patriots.win would already be shut down by now. Knives and sharp stones would already be banned
yeah, we know. The progressive hold power. They are the majority. For now, the game is played by their rules.
BBC is saying the shooter was ex-JMSDF.
I'm not sure the two are exactly synonymous.
Let's just say that you don't find any leftists in the SDF because unlike America it's not a jobs program.
OP didn't post a source: The majority of the media is confirming his death.
well shit, damn
Pretty sad news. I member really disliking the guy in my weeb years. Funny how GG changes a man lol
He was still kind of a tradcon and pushed for censorious shit I think, but he also was liked by a majority of his country and was a huge nationalist. I would've supported him wanting Japan to have an actual military to defend itself as well.
I'm still shellshocked 8 years later, fuck it doesn't even feel like 8 years lol
due to criticizing zelensky
and he was going to run again
What did he say?
Supposedly (and I can't find this alleged interview at all, with the following being found only on forums and social media and a few sketchy websites with no links to source), Abe wanted Zelensky to be American puppet, with Biden "forcing" him to do his Bidding:
I figured the globalists have to take down Japan at some point. Maybe this is the start.
No it’s pronounced ‘shenzoo ahbay’.
May his legacy be honored, his missed hopes fulfilled.
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Assad curse?
Zelensky curse, according to Imp and some others here.
Calm down fgt
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/ukraine-president-volodymyr-zelensky-shakes-hands-with-japanese-prime-picture-id1182579536?s=2048x2048
That photo is from October 21, 2019 and has nothing to do with the current NATO fgtry.
Ukraine has been asking to join NATO since the 1990s, officially since 2002 (positively received by NATO with the signing of the NATO-Ukraine Action Plan in November of the same year).
The president in 2002 was Kuchma, before picking Yanukovych (then his prime minster, and currently a traitor in Moscow) as his successor. This what he said in 2022:
Kuchma, Yushchenko, Poroshenko (who has just been on trial accused of treason for his dealings with the separatists but now is leading his own fighting unit), all are united behind Zelensky in the defense of the nation.
(They might well start bickering again after it is over.)
That shit doesn't mean shit for shit because the photo is from Abe meeting leaders of tons of shithole countries so it's not an endorsement of any of the current eastern european slap-fighting one way or the other.
https://www.mofa.go.jp/erp/c_see/ua/page1e_000289.html
Oh no, Abe was proudly bankrolling the "vile feminist regime"!
At the time of the visit,
Also just showed it to Imp to calm him down because he was seriously tripping.
Not to forget... Japan has the Kurile Islands issue with Russia. Russia should stay out of Japanese land!
Which is the reason why Japan is still officially at war with Russia (previously the Soviet Union), and why WWII never really ended.
Obviously, I don't agree with the batshit claims trying to connect this to Ukraine, but I would not say that he is a 'traitor' for having had to flee for his life by 'peaceful' 'demonstrators'.
He's is a traitor for siding with foreign invaders.
Also he didn't have to "flee for his life" at all. They didn't even ransack his ridicalous palace when they came, they were more gentle in touring it (abandoned) then the visitors of January 6 (no breaking windows or shouting, unlike some Americans at the Capitol building): https://youtube.com/watch?v=_HN3yZVKP9g No one was being killed anywhere (well, except of Right Sector's Sashko Bily, shot by the cops for being unruly, and the disappeared Tatars who tried to protest the Russian coup in Crimea, and even these deaths came later), so please just stop your histrionics.
Yanukovych only fled to both avoid prosecution for his crimes and preserve some of his illegally amassed wealth, which he did successfully before even an arrest warrant was issued against him (Poroshenko later surrendered to his warrant lawfully after losing power in turn, and was put on trial in person, for treason too).
I don't know why do you feel this urge to sympathise with and cover up for a blatant criminal (even a convicted thug in his youth) and international fugitive from justice just because he was impeached? It's very sociopathic.
It's all a matter of perspective. You could also say that Russian speakers who side with the Kiev regime are 'traitors'. Same as with the US Civil War, they call Robert E. Lee a 'traitor', but he was also faithful to his state (which was the norm at the time).
That's when he was gone though. It makes zero sense for him to make an agreement for new elections and then flee the next day, but for the fact that government forces withdrew and he was at the mercy of the mostly peaceful protesters.
He could have fled at any time though.
A Ukrainian leaders who does not end up in prison seems a rarity. I'm sure that if Z (the irony) makes peace, he'll later on be accused of treason and imprisoned.
I know he is a convicted thug, and that he is a corrupt bastard, but a traitor he is not. Being a thug and a corrupt bastard miraculously only come into play when someone resists American hegemonic ambitions.
Not Lee, but some hypothetical corrupt deposed Colonial governor who fled to London with stolen money after the independence but before the British invasion and never returned.
You talk like if he escaped some bloodbath. No one was killed, not any of his associates, or Berkut members or anyone, and they didn't even trash his home.
(Sashko was walking with an AKSU bullying various allegedly corrupt officials for internet videos, he too didn't kill anyone, they killed him later.)
Yeah, Zelensky shouldn't become a traitor. What a novel concept.
"American hegemonic ambitions" supported Yanukovych when they tried to salvage his presidency against the EU wishes ("fuck the EU!").
Reddit moment
Japanese dont eat dogs.
He almost certainly means China, here, I suspect…
Like, the implication being that it is a “Chinese agent”, or something, as others have already suggested…
Yes, Chinks.
Isn't that the South Koreans and the Chinese?
Yes, well, the Chinese are the likely assassins. Or behind the assassins.
Dunno why anyone thought that China killing a Jap would result in us warring against the Nips.
japan sometimes executes serial killers, they're always chinese
Because Muslims killing the arch-duke resulted in us going to war with his country.
black hand not muslims
Point taken.
My WWII is much stronger than my WWI.
Oh, but they're honorary whites when it's convenient anyway, aren't they?
But to hell with them even so, for keeping on killing cetaceans.
And anyway, I meant the chinks as being the assassins.
We got the quota on schizo posting already fulfilled by Imp, sorry.
We were lied to about the human population "naturally" levelling out at 5 billion, the crack addicts that are economists are lying to you now.
Oh, and never give to starving niggers. Don't breed more than you can feed, welfare bitches. If deer going hungry in the winter is "overpopulation", then so are humans who think it's perfectly OK to spit out litters of brats in a fucking desert. Having all your kids live nowadays is nice, but it just means you don't need so fucking many.
(Thought this was the other thread)
Fuck the Chinese and their goddamn dog-eating festival. Hell upon all of them.
There's no way you are not a fed or a troll.
Or the next mass-shooter.
Why not all 3?
I don't know id it even really counts as a masa shooter as it would be like the Couch Cuck from KF.
I'm sometimes worrying about Imp as he's obviously descending into madness.
For Imp it is business as usual. In fact, he's more moderate than he used to be because he got slapped down for R16 violations. He used to call women 'Nazis' and 'our worse halves' in every comment.
For all his derangement, I don't think he is as behaviorally deranged as the above glowie. All his crazy is concentrated in his views. But if the subject of women did not come up (fat chance), I think he would appear fairly normal.