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Shinzo Abe is pronounced dead .
posted 3 years ago by Telia 3 years ago by Telia +96 / -0

RIP Shinzo Abe

If you're a nationalist you get shot, is the message. Expect things to get really fucking awful from now on

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– cartoonericroberts 27 points 3 years ago +27 / -0

That photo is from October 21, 2019 and has nothing to do with the current NATO fgtry.

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– SupremeReader 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Ukraine has been asking to join NATO since the 1990s, officially since 2002 (positively received by NATO with the signing of the NATO-Ukraine Action Plan in November of the same year).

The president in 2002 was Kuchma, before picking Yanukovych (then his prime minster, and currently a traitor in Moscow) as his successor. This what he said in 2022:

Throughout my long life, I have never felt so much pride, pain, and anger as I have these day. Willingness to self-sacrifice always live in our hearts. It's just like a volcanic eruption: it's hard to wake up but impossible to contain. No one is ever able to restrain our people when they rise for their Homeland. For our future. For our freedom. I stay at home, in Ukraine, because we are all in our Homeland, there is no other. And we will defend it together until the very victory - without division into party columns, without personal interests and old arguments. United we stand around the Flag, the Army, and the President. Ukraine is no Russia. And it will never become Russia. No matter how hard they want this. We are already winning. And this can’t be stopped. And I will only say to the Russian Federation that I agree with the words of my compatriots who say in one voice: damn you all!

Kuchma, Yushchenko, Poroshenko (who has just been on trial accused of treason for his dealings with the separatists but now is leading his own fighting unit), all are united behind Zelensky in the defense of the nation.

(They might well start bickering again after it is over.)

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– cartoonericroberts 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

That shit doesn't mean shit for shit because the photo is from Abe meeting leaders of tons of shithole countries so it's not an endorsement of any of the current eastern european slap-fighting one way or the other.

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– SupremeReader 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Prime Minister Abe welcomed President Zelenskyy’s visit to Japan and stated, “It is a pleasure to hold the first meeting with President Zelenskyy,” and commended the President’s “efforts for improving the situation in Eastern Ukraine and for domestic reforms.” Prime Minister Abe explained, “Japan is one of the largest donors to Ukraine”, and “intends to continue our support to the reform efforts of the Government of Ukraine.”

https://www.mofa.go.jp/erp/c_see/ua/page1e_000289.html

Oh no, Abe was proudly bankrolling the "vile feminist regime"!

At the time of the visit,

Kyiv enjoys warm relations with Tokyo as Japan has not recognized Russia's takeover of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula in March 2014 and has imposed certain restrictive measures on Moscow for the move, as well as Moscow’s support for separatists in eastern Ukraine in a conflict that has killed more than 13,000 people since April 2014.

"Ukraine is, of course, an independent sovereign country with a recognized border," Japanese Ambassador to Ukraine Takashi Kurai told the Kyiv Post in July. "I do respect the people who are here who have been fighting for the freedom and independence of this country."

Japan has given Ukraine $50 million in humanitarian assistance meant for war victims, plus nearly $2 billion in grants and loans since the Maidan pro-democracy movement ousted former President Viktor Yanukovych from power in February 2014.

Japan has also donated some 1,500 cars for Ukraine's revamped police force and provided money and advice for the country’s beleaguered health-care system.

Also just showed it to Imp to calm him down because he was seriously tripping.

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– MaverickBoobies 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Not to forget... Japan has the Kurile Islands issue with Russia. Russia should stay out of Japanese land!

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

The president in 2002 was Kuchma, before picking Yanukovych (then his prime minster, and currently a traitor in Moscow)

Obviously, I don't agree with the batshit claims trying to connect this to Ukraine, but I would not say that he is a 'traitor' for having had to flee for his life by 'peaceful' 'demonstrators'.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

He's is a traitor for siding with foreign invaders.

Also he didn't have to "flee for his life" at all. They didn't even ransack his ridicalous palace when they came, they were more gentle in touring it (abandoned) then the visitors of January 6 (no breaking windows or shouting, unlike some Americans at the Capitol building): https://youtube.com/watch?v=_HN3yZVKP9g No one was being killed anywhere (well, except of Right Sector's Sashko Bily, shot by the cops for being unruly, and the disappeared Tatars who tried to protest the Russian coup in Crimea, and even these deaths came later), so please just stop your histrionics.

Yanukovych only fled to both avoid prosecution for his crimes and preserve some of his illegally amassed wealth, which he did successfully before even an arrest warrant was issued against him (Poroshenko later surrendered to his warrant lawfully after losing power in turn, and was put on trial in person, for treason too).

I don't know why do you feel this urge to sympathise with and cover up for a blatant criminal (even a convicted thug in his youth) and international fugitive from justice just because he was impeached? It's very sociopathic.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

He's is a traitor for siding with foreign invaders.

It's all a matter of perspective. You could also say that Russian speakers who side with the Kiev regime are 'traitors'. Same as with the US Civil War, they call Robert E. Lee a 'traitor', but he was also faithful to his state (which was the norm at the time).

Also he didn't have to "flee for his life" at all. They didn't even ransack his ridicalous palace when they came, they were more gentle in touring it (abandoned) then the visitors of January 6

That's when he was gone though. It makes zero sense for him to make an agreement for new elections and then flee the next day, but for the fact that government forces withdrew and he was at the mercy of the mostly peaceful protesters.

Yanukovych only fled to both avoid prosecution for his crimes and preserve some of his illegally amassed wealth, which he did successfully before even an arrest warrant was issued against him

He could have fled at any time though.

Poroshenko later surrendered to his warrant lawfully after losing power in turn, and was put on trial in person, for treason too

A Ukrainian leaders who does not end up in prison seems a rarity. I'm sure that if Z (the irony) makes peace, he'll later on be accused of treason and imprisoned.

I don't know why do you feel this urge to sympathise with and cover up for a blatant criminal (even a convicted thug in his youth) and international fugitive from justice just because he was impeached? It's very sociopathic.

I know he is a convicted thug, and that he is a corrupt bastard, but a traitor he is not. Being a thug and a corrupt bastard miraculously only come into play when someone resists American hegemonic ambitions.

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