Haaa! I feel stupid, but I’m gonna be honest in that I was exclusively looking at genre fiction.
That’s still kinda my shock though, like I’m not discounting Maya Angelou or Frederick Douglas as brilliant writers, but they’re pigeonholed in to borderline race-based categories. I literally couldn’t find one fantasy or sci-fi book that I could attribute to a black author.
Well, they never invented governement, electricity, the wheel. In the case of western africans at least, they never invented a written language, much less write anything substantial.
I’ve said that before. I’m sure there are good minority writers but if any minority or female writer is promoted today my first assumption is that it’s yet another lecture about racism or sexism. Walter Moseley is a good black writer. He has a private eye detective series. I’ve read plenty of female writers from decades past who were good. I wouldn’t touch any modern day books though
What I’ve been saying for a while. Before I’d give any author or show/movie a chance. Now if a show is promoting a female or minority or an author gets a lot of praise it’s a good assumption it will be filled with the race nonsense
I’m shocked. You mean constant lecturing about why you should lie this or that wonderful diverse show that talks about how evil white people are or whines for the 1000th time about oppression while growing up in suburbs isn’t popular?
There probably were in the sense of married to a Dwarf king. Fili and Kili were Thorin's heirs and their maternal uncle (presumably would have adopted them as he was unmarried and childless. Dain became king of Erebor because all three died in the Battle of the Five Armies; while he did have rights to the throne, but he wasn't the next in line.).
Better to say there were never any ruling queens. For humans there was eventually a ruling queen of Numenor. Well. We know what happened to Numenor following her reign. Not entirely her fault, although her mother was eventually petty and vindictive, and her dad neglected to mention exactly why he was going to middle-Earth for so many long trips.
Missing fathers result in poorly raised children. Based Tolkien.
Holy shit, Based Tolkien. Already knew he was, but...the relevancy is frightening.
Coal dust. It's not skin, it's coating. "But she's royal, not in the dust!", ah yes, but standards of beauty are that the hardest working, strongest, most results-creating dwarves get the most coal-tarred, and so the royalty artificially has it put on, as they clearly as the most strong and hard-working of all dwarves.
Now, BROWN skin, that one is harder... The best I can do is this: Dwarves are, by lore, formed not from flesh and soul like Man or Elf, but from rock. Various rocks come in various colors, and so a mudstone or mica-originating dwarf would have brown hues, while a granite-based one could be red, grey-white, or even blue.
Nah, beards are the only visible difference between Dwarven men and women. Their women don't have them, but are otherwise stocky, gruff-voiced, and hard-faced.
Written by Men (not biology, I mean as a species).
Of course they haven't seen dwarf women, why would they be out in the field. Women in actual combat is a modern fiction thing, and it's an extreme exception in world history, despite what DICE and Activision and Marvel would have you believe.
All the dwiggers have giant fros, along with helmets that are 3x as big to protect the afros, and gold teeth, and eat fried pheasant and hobbitmelons, and drink wine that is CGd to be bright purple. And they are obsessed with their garishly colored footwear and kill each other if another dwigger steps on another's shoes.
And also they speak in jive (but can't read or write) and the heros need a translator.
Yup, im a huge Tolkien fan. When this was announced i wasn't pissed when the obvious happened because i already knew how this was going to go. I have no intention or want to watch it. Its just silly fan fic in HDR.
The 70s had some pretty garbage levels of subversion on white culture as well. The Peter Jackson movies happened.
LOTR will survive this, no problem. Read the Tolkein books while this trash makes the rounds. It will be forgotten in 2-3 months. Tolkien will be around for hundreds if not thousands of years.
Ah, a Greco Egyptian dress, isn't it. It's Kween Dwarfopatra.
Norse runes
Isn't this show Vikings getting a black female Viking Kween too? This is what happens when you tolerate stupid shit like SHIELDMAIDENS in a "historical fiction", few years down the line.
It is sad how little the current Tolkien state cares about the ip. They could force one of the rules on Amazon that was absolutely very clear, "no contradicting jrr Tolkien"
Race nd gender swaps, adding relatives to characters are all contradicting Tolkien.
Which is why it makes no sense that corporations should be able to own IP, at least after the original author is gone. Amazon has no more rights to say what's Middle Earth canon than I do.
Where's her beard, why are they erasing trans fuckwads from society. Amazon is evil boycott them with my iPhone and Facebook accounts, oh looky hear a new chinese slave made laptop time to buy it from Amazon.
This shit checks every box possible on not making sense.
Black dwarves aren't a thing.
Dwarf queens aren't a thing.
She doesn't look like a dwarf at all.
Dwarf women have beards.
Tolkien explicitly made his entire LotR mythos a foundational myth for Europe and Great Britain. That's why all the characters are white, and why non-whites are said to exist far away in the east and south. At most, he said some of the races have a darker complexion, but that's meant to indicate a more swarthy European complexion.
Magma. She's clearly not black, she's burnt and irradiated, or coal dust? =P
It would be funny if they get blasted for that, because it is one of their critics concerning Drow. Won't happen though obviosuly.
Duergar
Duergar were gray not brown.
What about the dark elves?
It would have been great though if they made the darker people 'evil'. That would have resulted in huge meltdowns.
not melanin. Their skin is like midnight black, not brown.
Facts.
Still waiting for "First Black To Have Written Anything Interesting". Any takers?
Lotsa fans of Sowell 'round these parts, pilgrim.
Walter Moseley wasn’t bad. I like his private detective series. But any black author that is promoted today will most likely push the usual message
Holy shit… Like ironic racism aside, I literally can’t find one. Actually kinda feel bad
No, and given that they were hacks promoted purely because of their skin color, i'm gonna assume that the others you mentioned are as well.
Haaa! I feel stupid, but I’m gonna be honest in that I was exclusively looking at genre fiction.
That’s still kinda my shock though, like I’m not discounting Maya Angelou or Frederick Douglas as brilliant writers, but they’re pigeonholed in to borderline race-based categories. I literally couldn’t find one fantasy or sci-fi book that I could attribute to a black author.
Aside from those mentioned here, Pushkin.
"Things Fall Apart" by Chinua Achebe.
Do octoroons count?
Well, they never invented governement, electricity, the wheel. In the case of western africans at least, they never invented a written language, much less write anything substantial.
So you're going to denigrate every people that didn't 'invent' (discover) electricity?
How about people who didn't manage to invent the wheel?
I’ve said that before. I’m sure there are good minority writers but if any minority or female writer is promoted today my first assumption is that it’s yet another lecture about racism or sexism. Walter Moseley is a good black writer. He has a private eye detective series. I’ve read plenty of female writers from decades past who were good. I wouldn’t touch any modern day books though
What I’ve been saying for a while. Before I’d give any author or show/movie a chance. Now if a show is promoting a female or minority or an author gets a lot of praise it’s a good assumption it will be filled with the race nonsense
I have negro fatigue.. 😐😑
I’m shocked. You mean constant lecturing about why you should lie this or that wonderful diverse show that talks about how evil white people are or whines for the 1000th time about oppression while growing up in suburbs isn’t popular?
Based.
There probably were in the sense of married to a Dwarf king. Fili and Kili were Thorin's heirs and their maternal uncle (presumably would have adopted them as he was unmarried and childless. Dain became king of Erebor because all three died in the Battle of the Five Armies; while he did have rights to the throne, but he wasn't the next in line.).
Better to say there were never any ruling queens. For humans there was eventually a ruling queen of Numenor. Well. We know what happened to Numenor following her reign. Not entirely her fault, although her mother was eventually petty and vindictive, and her dad neglected to mention exactly why he was going to middle-Earth for so many long trips.
Missing fathers result in poorly raised children. Based Tolkien.
Holy shit, Based Tolkien. Already knew he was, but...the relevancy is frightening.
Writers often base characters on people that know in life.
Plus how the hell does a subterranean race develop black skin?
Black-skinned subterranean:
Coal dust. It's not skin, it's coating. "But she's royal, not in the dust!", ah yes, but standards of beauty are that the hardest working, strongest, most results-creating dwarves get the most coal-tarred, and so the royalty artificially has it put on, as they clearly as the most strong and hard-working of all dwarves.
Now, BROWN skin, that one is harder... The best I can do is this: Dwarves are, by lore, formed not from flesh and soul like Man or Elf, but from rock. Various rocks come in various colors, and so a mudstone or mica-originating dwarf would have brown hues, while a granite-based one could be red, grey-white, or even blue.
Female dwarves have beards
Not that I'd expect Amazon to have any respect for the lore with their negrolatry
Female Dwarves having beards is from Discworld mainly.
Nah, beards are the only visible difference between Dwarven men and women. Their women don't have them, but are otherwise stocky, gruff-voiced, and hard-faced.
Incorrect in regards to Tolkien's works
Thanks, I'll stop spreading this harmful misinformation.
Written by Men (not biology, I mean as a species).
Of course they haven't seen dwarf women, why would they be out in the field. Women in actual combat is a modern fiction thing, and it's an extreme exception in world history, despite what DICE and Activision and Marvel would have you believe.
That sounds hilarious. I hope they lean into it.
All the dwiggers have giant fros, along with helmets that are 3x as big to protect the afros, and gold teeth, and eat fried pheasant and hobbitmelons, and drink wine that is CGd to be bright purple. And they are obsessed with their garishly colored footwear and kill each other if another dwigger steps on another's shoes.
And also they speak in jive (but can't read or write) and the heros need a translator.
My new favorite word.
I think just calling them "diggers" would work better.
Dwiggers is more fun to say!
LOL I just said Dwiggers out loud while laughing on the dinner table. My wife started at me funny for 2 seconds and let it go.
Yup, im a huge Tolkien fan. When this was announced i wasn't pissed when the obvious happened because i already knew how this was going to go. I have no intention or want to watch it. Its just silly fan fic in HDR.
The 70s had some pretty garbage levels of subversion on white culture as well. The Peter Jackson movies happened.
LOTR will survive this, no problem. Read the Tolkein books while this trash makes the rounds. It will be forgotten in 2-3 months. Tolkien will be around for hundreds if not thousands of years.
I do so hope they go full on trans/ BLM/ defund the police/ down with the patriarchy/ white men evil/ down with capitalism with this series.
Looks promising so far.
Waiting for Peter Dinklage outrage in 5, 4, 3…
Ah, a Greco Egyptian dress, isn't it. It's Kween Dwarfopatra.
Isn't this show Vikings getting a black female Viking Kween too? This is what happens when you tolerate stupid shit like SHIELDMAIDENS in a "historical fiction", few years down the line.
Yes race and gender swapped Norse queen on vikings:valhalla
we wuz dwarwez and shieit
So that's why the dwarven women were never seen.
A face that can hammer stone
It is sad how little the current Tolkien state cares about the ip. They could force one of the rules on Amazon that was absolutely very clear, "no contradicting jrr Tolkien"
Race nd gender swaps, adding relatives to characters are all contradicting Tolkien.
The gatekeeper died. Corporations can wait out any one person.
Which is why it makes no sense that corporations should be able to own IP, at least after the original author is gone. Amazon has no more rights to say what's Middle Earth canon than I do.
Amen
I am not going to watch this so hard.
Where's her beard, why are they erasing trans fuckwads from society. Amazon is evil boycott them with my iPhone and Facebook accounts, oh looky hear a new chinese slave made laptop time to buy it from Amazon.
You know this shit will happen watch.
Not surprised. Have no plans to watch. I recently read the LOTR trilogy and Silmarillion so it’s fresh in my mind still
Hey, it's Zelda. She's wearing the tri-force and everything. Right? Not sure, only played the first one.
Oren, the Zora queen.
Looks like she makes a living selling her neighbors to the Portuguese.
Where's her beard?
Beards are patriarchal
Is that golden cheeto dust on her fingers? What is that?
None of my responses are safe for life, let alone work.
They will claim that Tolkien was a black, homosexual transwhatever.
Well, Tolkien was an Afriican...
I look forward to not watching this
Huh. Will never watch
This shit checks every box possible on not making sense. Black dwarves aren't a thing. Dwarf queens aren't a thing. She doesn't look like a dwarf at all. Dwarf women have beards.
HAHAHAHAH!!!
Wow. This is going to be shit.
Tolkien explicitly made his entire LotR mythos a foundational myth for Europe and Great Britain. That's why all the characters are white, and why non-whites are said to exist far away in the east and south. At most, he said some of the races have a darker complexion, but that's meant to indicate a more swarthy European complexion.
I doubt he mentions the dwarf skin color. It does mention the elves but lets be honest that will not stop Amazon from diversifying the elves.
The hobbits were modeled by some rural british communities, the dwarves after jews so them being brownish would not be far off, but not black.
They show a negro elf in this same article.
C'mon man
Balrog origin story?