What exactly does he want? What is wrong with a group of dwarfs that live in the woods mining? They are shown as rough manly-men that happen to be shorter than usual, while Snow White brings the traditional feminine counter-balance they need to clean up the house a bit and smooth the edges.
It’s kind of smart though. This isn’t something that will endear him to regular folks, but there’s a lot of value in publicly signing on the king of midget civil rights to corporate types in Hollywood
It is smart for an actor- Maybe thats how rey was cast in DibsneyWars. I dont think the actors get hired when they attack the studio though, it usually has to be straight hwite males, or the fans, or the old writers, dibsney doesnt allow criticism of the mouse alone.
Bet he's so fucking mad because he can't stand up pissing in a normal bathroom and had to install one of them pajeet holes in his mansion so he could piss standing up and feel a little bit like a man.
That's the inevitable result when everyone around you constantly tells you how amazing you are, but you still have to look in the mirror at the end of the day and see irrefutable proof that praise is empty. There's nothing compassionate about trying to convince people that the reality of their situation is something other than what it really is. It's a huge problem not just for people with obvious physical conditions like him, but for everyone that gets elevated to impossible heights by the people who surround them.
I wouldn't be surprised if he watched the gay adult porn parody of the film and just assumed it was the new disney remakes. "What disney is doing is horrible and paints midgets as something they aren't. Just because 7 guys are living in a cave together doesn't mean they'll do constant trains on eachother."
, Snow White assumes they must be children due to their small beds, but I think that's it??
Yep, because she kind of stumbled upon their house while they were at work, and thought she found some orphans. She was initially surprised that they were actually little men, but she had the grace and style to recover quickly.
Both dwarfs and dwarves are plurals of the word dwarf. Tolkien popularized the latter spelling. Dwarfs as mythical beings have been a part of Norse and Germanic folklore for as long as recorded history of the region has existed. You can find them in old stories of the Norse gods and in works such as Wagner's Ring Cycle operas.
It's a fairy tale, so I thought they were fantasy dwarfs. Spelling doesn't matter. I've seen it both ways in fantasy.
I'm pretty sure the proper English plural is dwarves. It's just that Tolkien had a thing about spelling it differently. Some people have followed his lead on that. Not everyone.
It's a fairy tale. It also has magical poisonous apples, and, y'know, magic talking mirrors. AND fucking witches... Nothing in it is, or is supposed to be, *actually real...
Like, dwarves were not invented to stereotype midgets. "Dwarf", as used for "midget", is a fucking euphemism anyway!!
Actually, both dwarf and midget are legit terms, and NOT interchangeable. One is proportional to the normals of the species (any species, mind), the other is not (the ones with the shortie arms and legs.)
As in, there were dwarf elephants and hippos living where the Mediterranean is now, when it was bone dry about 5 million years ago or so.
Yes, but the mythical "dwarves" of the fairy tale predate that use by quite some margin...
Dwarves are in fairy tales from nearly 1000 years ago, before they discovered pygmy/dwarf fossils of anything...
The term, as applied to humans, is an even more recent construct.
You have the "etymology", or rather the... evolution of use of the word, backwards...
I'm not denying that it is now a biological term. Just that it started off as a reference to a specific mythological creature, and was only later applied to human shortarses, as a euphemistic biological term...
Whether midgets and dwarves are different or not, my point still stands.
If you Really want to nitpick, you might say "But surely there were little people living in the middle ages (a la GOT), so maybe they were called dwarves/that's where the idea came from!!"
Ok, sure, but I have seen strictly zero evidence to support that claim.
Frankly, knowing Medieval Europe, I suspect actual "dwarves" were probably murdered, or simply abandoned. I really, really doubt there were terribly many Tyrion Lannister's about.
Or "disabled" people in general, for that matter. It just wasn't that kind of world...
Both very large people and very small ones have all kinds of problems that Medieval medicine just wasn't prepared to cope with. So, even if they were accepted, and actually I think they would have been more than you suspect, they probably didn't survive very long.
I guess I should clarify: I'm a biologist. I know what achondroplasia is. I know you have different forms of "little people". It's not like I haven't met a few, in my time. I also know what bloody dwarfism in animals is. Grumpy cat, for example.
However that does not change the origin of the word, or the fact that the dwarves in Snow White were not human...
Come on, people. Did anyone, as a kid, assume they were normal "little people", rather than mythical magical beings??
The fricking evil queen literally uses magic, FFS... The entire story revolves around it. It's called fantasy. Dwarves and all... :-/
Yeah, I did, they don't look anything BUT human in the movie. I never considered that these were supposed to be anything other than normal little dudes living in the woods and working in a diamond mine. I never thought that they were out of the ordinary in any other way.
Where is there any indication in that movie that they are NOT human? They have normal ears, no tails, nothing inhuman about them at all.
Sidenote: may I just say that it is frankly insane that we are discussing the merits or otherwise of the portrayal of mythical creatures in old European fairytales...
That is insane. Our ancestors, the ones who weren't fucking English majors, I suppose, would have frankly been laughing their heads off... :-/
Why? Should vampires be gay homos in all disney movies becuz made up?
Should spiderman have a fetish for trannies? hes a fantasy character
Why isnt the hulk a male gigolo?
we were founded upon the defense of internet harpies taking over gaming, it would be more strange if we were to stop defending unnecessary rewrites of established lore, even if from fairytale publications.
The Seven Dwarfs don't live in a cave, they live in a little cottage like normal people. They work in a mine. They are diamond miners. And they seem to genuinely enjoy what they do, too. Imagine that.
Well, if he's attacking the original Disney movie for having "dwarfs" live in a cave, well, he's wrong on that count right off the bat. Has he even watched the movie?
Well, I have never seen the individuals in the Disney movie as anything other than little humans. Because they sure don't look like "fantasy creatures". Just little guys banding together to make a living as miners, away from people who would make fun of them.
I paid Peter Dinklage for set of mithril chainmail more than a year ago and he still hasn't delivered. Maybe he should spend less time doing interviews and more time at the forge.
I agree with him. Eliminate dwarves from all movies and stories. You're going to have to sacrifice your career Dinkley, but it'll be a small price to pay for progress.
Odd for him to complain about this when his most recent film, Cyrano (depicting the play that Steve Martin's Roxanne was based on) likens dwarfism to ugliness.
The guy seemed like he was on his way to becoming an A-lister in Hollywood, as he was getting roles thrown at him left and right just because they wanted his star power. Then Game of Thrones ended on a disastrous note, the roles dried up, and all the Dink is known for now is playing a dumbass in some crappy show with dragons and zombies. No wonder he's been so salty lately.
“You’re progressive in one way, but then you’re still making that f–king backwards story about seven dwarfs living in a cave together, what the f–k are you doing, man? I personally will boycott this exploitative film unless all 8 dwarves are played by none other than mista Peta Dinklage. this is RAYCISM DIBSNEY!!!!"
This is the rant of a man who just doesn't get it from a business standpoint. They're not going to go out and make a live-action movie of Coal Black and the Seven Giant African Dudes. Disney is doing this shit so they can retain copyright over their version of the story for another hundred-plus years. On top of that, the whole thing about him ranting about dwarfs just further proves that he doesn't get it, as the dwarfs in the story were fantasy characters. They're stereotypes of the classic dwarf from fairy tales of old.
Dude needs to quit huffing his own farts and get over it.
Wow, he’s a little bit pissed off. Guess he has more than a tiny issue with Hollywood slighting dwarfs. No need getting your shorts all in a bind, sir.
The episode of Dr. House where Gregory sexually harasses the dwarf mother and makes all the jokes is one of the classics. The kid then also happens to not be a dwarf and House cures her of her dwarfness.
Culture would suck if we couldn't make fun of things that are abnormal.
What exactly does he want? What is wrong with a group of dwarfs that live in the woods mining? They are shown as rough manly-men that happen to be shorter than usual, while Snow White brings the traditional feminine counter-balance they need to clean up the house a bit and smooth the edges.
The same thing all of them want. For their every whim to be catered to without them ever having to express it or do anything to earn it.
Basically, they want to be a baby. Leftism is an infantile mindset.
The guy sounds mentally ill. Like George Takei levels. I bet he's drunk or high most of the time. Isn't Hollywood great?
One good role and he thinks hes the king of progressive movie rewrites. Lmao. CUCK #Cancel Dinkle Tinklage
It’s kind of smart though. This isn’t something that will endear him to regular folks, but there’s a lot of value in publicly signing on the king of midget civil rights to corporate types in Hollywood
It is smart for an actor- Maybe thats how rey was cast in DibsneyWars. I dont think the actors get hired when they attack the studio though, it usually has to be straight hwite males, or the fans, or the old writers, dibsney doesnt allow criticism of the mouse alone.
Bet he's so fucking mad because he can't stand up pissing in a normal bathroom and had to install one of them pajeet holes in his mansion so he could piss standing up and feel a little bit like a man.
Did he really install a pissing stand? thats really funny. dibsney should cast him as dopey. and then everyone calls him dopey in and out of casting.
That's the inevitable result when everyone around you constantly tells you how amazing you are, but you still have to look in the mirror at the end of the day and see irrefutable proof that praise is empty. There's nothing compassionate about trying to convince people that the reality of their situation is something other than what it really is. It's a huge problem not just for people with obvious physical conditions like him, but for everyone that gets elevated to impossible heights by the people who surround them.
Dog licked his face one too many times
I wouldn't be surprised if he watched the gay adult porn parody of the film and just assumed it was the new disney remakes. "What disney is doing is horrible and paints midgets as something they aren't. Just because 7 guys are living in a cave together doesn't mean they'll do constant trains on eachother."
He's an angry elf
Those 7 dwarves are dwarves like Thorin not a dwarf like Tyrion Lannister
Hes mad because they arent all buttfucking like he did for his casting to get on as tyrion
, Snow White assumes they must be children due to their small beds, but I think that's it??
Yep, because she kind of stumbled upon their house while they were at work, and thought she found some orphans. She was initially surprised that they were actually little men, but she had the grace and style to recover quickly.
I still don't think they are human, but anyhoo...
It's a several-hundred year old fairytale... Who gives a crap, at this point??
Fantasy dwarves not related to human dwarves. Human dwarves are an aberration. Fantasy dwarves are supposed to be that way. Little man, big cope.
Both dwarfs and dwarves are plurals of the word dwarf. Tolkien popularized the latter spelling. Dwarfs as mythical beings have been a part of Norse and Germanic folklore for as long as recorded history of the region has existed. You can find them in old stories of the Norse gods and in works such as Wagner's Ring Cycle operas.
It's a fairy tale, so I thought they were fantasy dwarfs. Spelling doesn't matter. I've seen it both ways in fantasy.
I'm pretty sure the proper English plural is dwarves. It's just that Tolkien had a thing about spelling it differently. Some people have followed his lead on that. Not everyone.
It's a fairy tale. It also has magical poisonous apples, and, y'know, magic talking mirrors. AND fucking witches... Nothing in it is, or is supposed to be, *actually real...
Like, dwarves were not invented to stereotype midgets. "Dwarf", as used for "midget", is a fucking euphemism anyway!!
Fucking christ... This is next level demented.
Actually, both dwarf and midget are legit terms, and NOT interchangeable. One is proportional to the normals of the species (any species, mind), the other is not (the ones with the shortie arms and legs.)
As in, there were dwarf elephants and hippos living where the Mediterranean is now, when it was bone dry about 5 million years ago or so.
Yes, but the mythical "dwarves" of the fairy tale predate that use by quite some margin...
Dwarves are in fairy tales from nearly 1000 years ago, before they discovered pygmy/dwarf fossils of anything...
The term, as applied to humans, is an even more recent construct.
You have the "etymology", or rather the... evolution of use of the word, backwards...
I'm not denying that it is now a biological term. Just that it started off as a reference to a specific mythological creature, and was only later applied to human shortarses, as a euphemistic biological term...
Whether midgets and dwarves are different or not, my point still stands.
If you Really want to nitpick, you might say "But surely there were little people living in the middle ages (a la GOT), so maybe they were called dwarves/that's where the idea came from!!"
Ok, sure, but I have seen strictly zero evidence to support that claim.
Frankly, knowing Medieval Europe, I suspect actual "dwarves" were probably murdered, or simply abandoned. I really, really doubt there were terribly many Tyrion Lannister's about.
Or "disabled" people in general, for that matter. It just wasn't that kind of world...
Both very large people and very small ones have all kinds of problems that Medieval medicine just wasn't prepared to cope with. So, even if they were accepted, and actually I think they would have been more than you suspect, they probably didn't survive very long.
I guess I should clarify: I'm a biologist. I know what achondroplasia is. I know you have different forms of "little people". It's not like I haven't met a few, in my time. I also know what bloody dwarfism in animals is. Grumpy cat, for example.
However that does not change the origin of the word, or the fact that the dwarves in Snow White were not human...
Come on, people. Did anyone, as a kid, assume they were normal "little people", rather than mythical magical beings??
The fricking evil queen literally uses magic, FFS... The entire story revolves around it. It's called fantasy. Dwarves and all... :-/
Yeah, I did, they don't look anything BUT human in the movie. I never considered that these were supposed to be anything other than normal little dudes living in the woods and working in a diamond mine. I never thought that they were out of the ordinary in any other way.
Where is there any indication in that movie that they are NOT human? They have normal ears, no tails, nothing inhuman about them at all.
Sidenote: may I just say that it is frankly insane that we are discussing the merits or otherwise of the portrayal of mythical creatures in old European fairytales...
That is insane. Our ancestors, the ones who weren't fucking English majors, I suppose, would have frankly been laughing their heads off... :-/
Why? Should vampires be gay homos in all disney movies becuz made up?
Should spiderman have a fetish for trannies? hes a fantasy character
Why isnt the hulk a male gigolo?
we were founded upon the defense of internet harpies taking over gaming, it would be more strange if we were to stop defending unnecessary rewrites of established lore, even if from fairytale publications.
What is the preferred politically correct term?
I don't even understand why "dwarf" and "midget" are considered "bad words". "Oriental", either.
George Carlin's "Seven Dirty Words" needs rewriting.
The Seven Dwarfs don't live in a cave, they live in a little cottage like normal people. They work in a mine. They are diamond miners. And they seem to genuinely enjoy what they do, too. Imagine that.
You're overanalysing this even more than I did... Jesus...
It's a fucking fairy story!!! Who cares!
Well, if he's attacking the original Disney movie for having "dwarfs" live in a cave, well, he's wrong on that count right off the bat. Has he even watched the movie?
Ok then. Snow White and the seven MGTOW mining bros.
Personally, I never interepreted the Dwarves as humans with dwarfism, but even if they WERE, so what?
What's so bad about seven dudes running their own mining operation?
Nothing, obviously. He just wants some attention. Probably salty that he didn't get a role.
I also feel that they were never intended to be human, but apparently people here disagree...
Regardless, as you point out, who fucking cares? :-/
It's a fantasy. Fiction. It does not fucking matter... facepalm
Well, I have never seen the individuals in the Disney movie as anything other than little humans. Because they sure don't look like "fantasy creatures". Just little guys banding together to make a living as miners, away from people who would make fun of them.
I checked Wikipedia. On this occasion, I am right. Which is satisfying, lol...
In all cases, 100% of the time, no matter what, the thing they believe will make them the most money.
What do you know? That stereotype about dwarfs being angry and bad-tempered turns out to be true.
I paid Peter Dinklage for set of mithril chainmail more than a year ago and he still hasn't delivered. Maybe he should spend less time doing interviews and more time at the forge.
If I could give you gold...
Gnomes and dwarves. This I support!
I agree with him. Eliminate dwarves from all movies and stories. You're going to have to sacrifice your career Dinkley, but it'll be a small price to pay for progress.
slightly tall kek
Odd for him to complain about this when his most recent film, Cyrano (depicting the play that Steve Martin's Roxanne was based on) likens dwarfism to ugliness.
"Miroir miroir, dis-moi qui est la plus woke."
How does the evil queen say it in English?
Mirror mirror, tell me who is the wokest?
"AAAAAGGGGG DOES HE OFFER US INSULT?!!"
"NO, master Gloin, he's offering you food."
The guy seemed like he was on his way to becoming an A-lister in Hollywood, as he was getting roles thrown at him left and right just because they wanted his star power. Then Game of Thrones ended on a disastrous note, the roles dried up, and all the Dink is known for now is playing a dumbass in some crappy show with dragons and zombies. No wonder he's been so salty lately.
Hey now, he was in the critically mega acclaimed Avengers Endgame.
In a role whose entire joke is that he is a dwarf but dwarves in this world are HUGE! Get it?! They got the midge to play the biggest character!
He certainly was happy to cash Disney's check then.
Somehow, a Mexican Snow White is progress..... 🤮
He doesn't understand the difference between a fantasy race of dwarves and a human being with dwarfism.
This is the rant of a man who just doesn't get it from a business standpoint. They're not going to go out and make a live-action movie of Coal Black and the Seven Giant African Dudes. Disney is doing this shit so they can retain copyright over their version of the story for another hundred-plus years. On top of that, the whole thing about him ranting about dwarfs just further proves that he doesn't get it, as the dwarfs in the story were fantasy characters. They're stereotypes of the classic dwarf from fairy tales of old.
Dude needs to quit huffing his own farts and get over it.
Yeah, look, they're not human.
End of story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_(folklore)
Like, FFS. Sure, they could be portrayed by "little people", in a live action, but the hobbits weren't...
This is such an insane, postmodern "discussion", I just can't even...
Weren't they something else in the original tale its based off? Like woodsmen?
He's a pompous asshole.
Wow, he’s a little bit pissed off. Guess he has more than a tiny issue with Hollywood slighting dwarfs. No need getting your shorts all in a bind, sir.
What?
Also censored swearing is fucking lame.
TIL I want to punt Dinklage like a football.
He's right. They should be living in children's playground houses for our amusement, damn it!
The episode of Dr. House where Gregory sexually harasses the dwarf mother and makes all the jokes is one of the classics. The kid then also happens to not be a dwarf and House cures her of her dwarfness.
Culture would suck if we couldn't make fun of things that are abnormal.
Just do a faithful adaptation of the original Grimm’s Fairy Tale
That’s why he was so mad in that scene in Elf.
Are you sure he's not joking?
Someone tell that midget to shut the fuck up.
They identify as giants, so...