The mandate for healthcare workers is still up, which isn't surprising. That was always going to be harder to argue against. But this should at least buy the rest of us some time. Maybe the Dems will conclude that after Virginia they'll have to end this scam to have a chance not to get slaughtered in November.
The problem is they have boxed themselves in a corner by psychologically abusing their own base for two years. So now they are stuck in a position where if they back down on mandates, their base will hate them and primary them out for a radical. But if they stick with the mandates, they will piss off the far more numerous moderates and populist and lose the general.
It’s why I remain positive about the longer term direction we are going.
This is an excellent take, but I have just one minor quibble. They're not psychologically abusing their base. They're psychologically abusing everyone else at the behest of their base because they know their base is driven solely by hatred of the rest of the country. All this kung flu bullshit is about terrorizing everyone else into obeying their betters. The problem they have is people are starting to realize that giving abusers what they want doesn't stop the abuse, it guarantees more abuse. As you said they've boxed themselves into a corner by catering to progressive abusers who have them by the balls because while the they can't win elections without their support they need support from people that are less hateful and more sane than them as well. So they either either back down and lose the primary (and then the general) or keep feeding the beast and lose the general.
yeah, sorry. It's just something I've realized in the last year or so. Every bit of leftist lunacy we're dealing with now started as a social engineering experiment in the ghetto.
They'll try, but it only works if the election is close enough. It also helps if our side takes volunteer poll watcher gigs, which is why they weren't able to cheat Youngkin out of his win in Virginia.
Like the other comment said, cheating can only get you so far. Especially when people are now wise to the Lefts plans and have started doing what they can to stop them. So now they have the extra issue of people being on guard against their cheating at the same time that a critical mass is developing between moderates and populist. So I stand by my belief that what we are seeing now is the Globalist Menace in its death rattle throwing everything they can just to have even the most minor of a hope of stopping whats coming, and it still wont work.
They're shelving it for the midterms, lockdowns and mandates to resume immediately following the elections. BUT WATCH OUT cuz here comes the next Greek letter of the alphabet conveniently around October 20th so that they can have global mail-in ballots! New York to receive 7800 more Electoral College votes to accommodate the Earth's population that is now legally allowed to vote in American elections.
Doubt it'll be the next letter. They skipped Β and Γ between Α and Δ. They skipped Ε, Ζ, Η, Θ, Ι, Κ, Λ, Μ, Ν, Ξ and Ε between Δ and Ο. They'll likely skip a few.
For now, you are correct. But, I'll be stunned if it stays that way. Once they find a crack they can push on to escalate it, they'll do so in a heartbeat
That was always going to be harder to argue against.
Not that hard, actually. Went through all of wave one without a fucking clotshot, wearing everything short of an NBC cleansuit because everyone was acting like we had an aerosolized version of the black death with hints of ebola, without issue, and everyone who actually followed proper infection control protocols was less likely to spread coof (which, for anyone who forgot, spreads on a respiratory vector) then rooming people together because one URI looks the same as another until the lab tests come back or because you're out of isolation rooms again (because fuck modernization, we have government money to embezzle, right admin?)
Now we're down a load of staff over the last mandate, and they're just calling people who tested coof positive but have little to no symptoms to come back and work anyway. Literally people who're coof positive (and, by the fearmongers logic, should be on trains to the arctic to wait out their death plague isolation) being asked to come work direct bedside.
Fuck the mandates; we have tons of arguments for why we should purge them and just beg the people who were fired for being unclean burakkus to come back.
Yeah, this was a barely successful defense against a potentially catastrophic attack. Time to go all out on the offensive against covid tyrants. Blood is in the water with all the recent news.
The companies that have mandated it will likely continue to. And if Biden wants, he can force OSHA to make more narrowly-tailored orders to different industries, and those mandates will likely survive scrutiny, if the Supreme Court follows its own logic that it laid out in its opinion. I don't see this as a victory.
There's a lot of pessimism here, likely well justified. Still I call this a big win because we've not been seeing this stuff get defeated at a high level pretty much anywhere in the world, and it did here.
I've lived a lifetime seeing my rights get eroded and destroyed. I think back to even just basic shit like hanging out with friends on the outskirts of town without any no-trespassing signs or the police being called. Being able to keep my loved ones company and kiss them goodbye right from the boarding gate. Actually having privacy without getting some electronic device to tattle on where I've been.
It's a win, but it's a little like just moving up a trench after losing ground for countless battles.
I have come around to the Styxhexenhammer/Razorfist position that the Black Pilled are either enemy subversives pretending to be on our side or traitors hoping for leniency from their supposed conquerors. And that both deserve the helicopter, and for the same reason.
Imagine being thirty-something years old, growing up in the 90s, your first vivid memory of adolescence was watching the towers fall, you lost your first job when the housing bubble burst, your time at university marred by a series of increasingly-absurd administrative rulings de facto threatening you with ruin for talking to the wrong girl, mobs running your best professors off campus with literal torches and pitchforks, you graduate and the economy's still for shit so you enlist and make a couple trips to the sandbox where you come to understand that we don't know what we're doing there, the locals don't want us there, and your buddy got his legs blown off for nothing, you get out, ears ringing every night so loud you can't sleep, the espionage gear your unit wouldn't spring for to track the guy planting the bombs is being used on you because the Kenyan thinks you're a threat to his power, and just when you've about had enough, a halfway decent presidential candidate comes along, and every institution in the country is tripping over itself to shred Truth, the law, and the republic itself to be rid of him, and then a shitty Chinese bioweapon gets released just in time for an election to be blatantly stolen, your dad dies of cancer because doctors just quit treating patients, your leftist sister has turned your nephew into your niece, you lose your job again because you refuse to be a lab rat, and having even the tiniest sliver of optimism left.
Things have been getting markedly worse for twenty-one years. I'd love to have some hope, but I don't see any on the horizon looking forwards or backwards.
Supreme Court strongly indicated in the opinion that the mandate exceeded OSHA's authority to issue. This is essentially a quiet order to the 6th Circuit that it is going to get smacked down if they push it.
The courts have their procedures. That it seems alien to you is simply because you aren't familiar with its workings.
Today was decisive. All that's left is merely the formalities.
I wouldn't be surprised if the case remains on the 6th's docket in some form all the way up through the election; the case won't die as long as the Administration is willing to blow money roleplaying Don Quixote. But after today the ultimate outcome is no longer in doubt.
Are you basing this being a 6-3 ruling on the fact that the dissent was only signed by the three "liberal" members of the court, and not (either) Roberts or Barret? I can see a case where either of those would simply not sign a dissent against the overall decision for political reasons.
The mandate for healthcare workers is still up, which isn't surprising. That was always going to be harder to argue against. But this should at least buy the rest of us some time. Maybe the Dems will conclude that after Virginia they'll have to end this scam to have a chance not to get slaughtered in November.
The problem is they have boxed themselves in a corner by psychologically abusing their own base for two years. So now they are stuck in a position where if they back down on mandates, their base will hate them and primary them out for a radical. But if they stick with the mandates, they will piss off the far more numerous moderates and populist and lose the general.
It’s why I remain positive about the longer term direction we are going.
This is an excellent take, but I have just one minor quibble. They're not psychologically abusing their base. They're psychologically abusing everyone else at the behest of their base because they know their base is driven solely by hatred of the rest of the country. All this kung flu bullshit is about terrorizing everyone else into obeying their betters. The problem they have is people are starting to realize that giving abusers what they want doesn't stop the abuse, it guarantees more abuse. As you said they've boxed themselves into a corner by catering to progressive abusers who have them by the balls because while the they can't win elections without their support they need support from people that are less hateful and more sane than them as well. So they either either back down and lose the primary (and then the general) or keep feeding the beast and lose the general.
two? try sixty
Detroit was once called the Paris of America
And it still is.
But that says more about Paris than Detroit.
good one/
I was mostly making a reference to Covid specifically for the timeline, but fair point.
yeah, sorry. It's just something I've realized in the last year or so. Every bit of leftist lunacy we're dealing with now started as a social engineering experiment in the ghetto.
Welfare.
meet the projects.
just to name two that come to mind.
They'll try, but it only works if the election is close enough. It also helps if our side takes volunteer poll watcher gigs, which is why they weren't able to cheat Youngkin out of his win in Virginia.
Like the other comment said, cheating can only get you so far. Especially when people are now wise to the Lefts plans and have started doing what they can to stop them. So now they have the extra issue of people being on guard against their cheating at the same time that a critical mass is developing between moderates and populist. So I stand by my belief that what we are seeing now is the Globalist Menace in its death rattle throwing everything they can just to have even the most minor of a hope of stopping whats coming, and it still wont work.
They're shelving it for the midterms, lockdowns and mandates to resume immediately following the elections. BUT WATCH OUT cuz here comes the next Greek letter of the alphabet conveniently around October 20th so that they can have global mail-in ballots! New York to receive 7800 more Electoral College votes to accommodate the Earth's population that is now legally allowed to vote in American elections.
Doubt it'll be the next letter. They skipped Β and Γ between Α and Δ. They skipped Ε, Ζ, Η, Θ, Ι, Κ, Λ, Μ, Ν, Ξ and Ε between Δ and Ο. They'll likely skip a few.
The only cure for that one is fire.
For now, you are correct. But, I'll be stunned if it stays that way. Once they find a crack they can push on to escalate it, they'll do so in a heartbeat
Not that hard, actually. Went through all of wave one without a fucking clotshot, wearing everything short of an NBC cleansuit because everyone was acting like we had an aerosolized version of the black death with hints of ebola, without issue, and everyone who actually followed proper infection control protocols was less likely to spread coof (which, for anyone who forgot, spreads on a respiratory vector) then rooming people together because one URI looks the same as another until the lab tests come back or because you're out of isolation rooms again (because fuck modernization, we have government money to embezzle, right admin?)
Now we're down a load of staff over the last mandate, and they're just calling people who tested coof positive but have little to no symptoms to come back and work anyway. Literally people who're coof positive (and, by the fearmongers logic, should be on trains to the arctic to wait out their death plague isolation) being asked to come work direct bedside.
Fuck the mandates; we have tons of arguments for why we should purge them and just beg the people who were fired for being unclean burakkus to come back.
For now...
Never forget that they will keep trying.
As communist always do,
"The price of liberty is eternal vigilance."
The difficulty of the war between good and evil, is that good must win every war, while evil needs only win one.
This is only one battle.
The war still rages on.
Celebrate, but also PREPARE, because they wont stop.
Yeah, this was a barely successful defense against a potentially catastrophic attack. Time to go all out on the offensive against covid tyrants. Blood is in the water with all the recent news.
The companies that have mandated it will likely continue to. And if Biden wants, he can force OSHA to make more narrowly-tailored orders to different industries, and those mandates will likely survive scrutiny, if the Supreme Court follows its own logic that it laid out in its opinion. I don't see this as a victory.
There's a lot of pessimism here, likely well justified. Still I call this a big win because we've not been seeing this stuff get defeated at a high level pretty much anywhere in the world, and it did here.
I've lived a lifetime seeing my rights get eroded and destroyed. I think back to even just basic shit like hanging out with friends on the outskirts of town without any no-trespassing signs or the police being called. Being able to keep my loved ones company and kiss them goodbye right from the boarding gate. Actually having privacy without getting some electronic device to tattle on where I've been.
It's a win, but it's a little like just moving up a trench after losing ground for countless battles.
Link for Business Mandate: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
Link for Healthcare Mandate: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a240_d18e.pdf
Again, they do the bare minimum to keep the illusion they aren't part of the establishment/uniparty.
The rope still sways.
You guys are idiots. The medical mandate still stands. We're fucked.
Healthcare mandate passed which is fucked tho
Black Pillers are formally invited to suck me off.
I have come around to the Styxhexenhammer/Razorfist position that the Black Pilled are either enemy subversives pretending to be on our side or traitors hoping for leniency from their supposed conquerors. And that both deserve the helicopter, and for the same reason.
Imagine being thirty-something years old, growing up in the 90s, your first vivid memory of adolescence was watching the towers fall, you lost your first job when the housing bubble burst, your time at university marred by a series of increasingly-absurd administrative rulings de facto threatening you with ruin for talking to the wrong girl, mobs running your best professors off campus with literal torches and pitchforks, you graduate and the economy's still for shit so you enlist and make a couple trips to the sandbox where you come to understand that we don't know what we're doing there, the locals don't want us there, and your buddy got his legs blown off for nothing, you get out, ears ringing every night so loud you can't sleep, the espionage gear your unit wouldn't spring for to track the guy planting the bombs is being used on you because the Kenyan thinks you're a threat to his power, and just when you've about had enough, a halfway decent presidential candidate comes along, and every institution in the country is tripping over itself to shred Truth, the law, and the republic itself to be rid of him, and then a shitty Chinese bioweapon gets released just in time for an election to be blatantly stolen, your dad dies of cancer because doctors just quit treating patients, your leftist sister has turned your nephew into your niece, you lose your job again because you refuse to be a lab rat, and having even the tiniest sliver of optimism left.
Things have been getting markedly worse for twenty-one years. I'd love to have some hope, but I don't see any on the horizon looking forwards or backwards.
Temporarily paused at best but I genuinely didn't think this was going to happen
Some things must be becoming undeniable.
Yes! So fucking glad
It's literally just a stay on it. It's going back to the Sixth Circuit for a ruling where we might have to go through all this again
And they refused to stay the Healthcare mandate. This is nowhere close to done with the bullshit
Supreme Court strongly indicated in the opinion that the mandate exceeded OSHA's authority to issue. This is essentially a quiet order to the 6th Circuit that it is going to get smacked down if they push it.
The fact that they continue to ping pong this crap instead of providing a firm ruling is asinine.
The courts have their procedures. That it seems alien to you is simply because you aren't familiar with its workings.
Today was decisive. All that's left is merely the formalities.
I wouldn't be surprised if the case remains on the 6th's docket in some form all the way up through the election; the case won't die as long as the Administration is willing to blow money roleplaying Don Quixote. But after today the ultimate outcome is no longer in doubt.
In the language of court decisions, the wording of the ruling was basically marching orders directly to the 6th on how the court expects them to rule.
You do know that your hero Roberts + Kav upheld the mandate for health care workers, while Barrett voted no, right?
Your 'politics' boil down to "I DON'T LIKE YOU". No matter what precedent or principle it establishes.
The best kind of useful idiot for the radical-left. Which is why you will lose for the rest of your life.
Let me guess, your explanation for why Barrett voted against the mandate for health workers is that "they are mostly female" or something?
Go fuck yourself.
Sincerely,
one of those healthcare worker scum.
You dumb cunt, you have no fucking idea what actually goes on bedside.
Are you basing this being a 6-3 ruling on the fact that the dissent was only signed by the three "liberal" members of the court, and not (either) Roberts or Barret? I can see a case where either of those would simply not sign a dissent against the overall decision for political reasons.
Can always count on leftist judges to go left.
It's the others that are always a toss up.