I only bother to replace windows when I build something.
Considering the current state of the parts market, I don't anticipate building another computer during this administration. Right now I couldn't even buy all the parts I used in what I have now.
He bashed a vaccine critic who was spouting scientifically illiterate nonsense. mRNA does not self-replicate - it is a set of instructions for producing a protein that is not strictly single use, but will decompose in a few days at most. An mRNA vaccine does not operate at a level where it is capable of "basically creating a new humanoid race, who generate and exhaust the toxic spike protein."
If you think that the spike protein might be toxic either directly or by inducing a harmful immune response, that is a topic worthy of discussion, but it's the difference between "we cannot trust Chinese 5G infrastructure to not contain spyware" and "5G radiation causes cancer!"
in some way's i argue crapple is worse mainly due to their anti consumer bs and actively hampering after market modification, right to repair, and the planned obsolesce stuff
If/when that happens, expect to pay $10/month for Windows, have to keep your PC connected to the internet for it to re-activate itself whenever you turn your computer on, and to lose access to your PC if you ever stop renewing.
I heard that win11 is going to be free just like win8.1 was for win8 users, though I would not be surprised if it crams telemetry into critical components so that it could not be turned off...
If I were going to upgrade I'd be looking for the equivalent to the LTSC version of Windows 10. That's the version they developed for large enterprises and regulated industries with all the crap (Cortana, the tracking stuff, the XBox integration stuff, default installed apps, etc...) removed.
One idea I've toyed with is to just something like the esxi hypervisor or Unraid installed on my machine and make the GPU and USB host devices directly available to the VMs through device passthrough. Then I could have whatever OSes I want installed on the machine with near-native performance because the guest OS has direct hardware access. Then you'd also have the ability to spoof or disable hardware you didn't want the OS to have access to (eg. microphone and camera devices).
That would let you install Linux for day-to-day stuff and still have a Windows install for gaming.
Since you mentioned LTT I'll mention he's done this a few times over the years.
Here is a build he did with 7 GPUs that is basically a LAN party in a box.
A few years later he attempted to build a single PC that all his editors could use as an editing workstation
Apparently Unraid is designed to be able to do this sort of thing out of the box and uses KVM under the hood. Though personally I'm more familiar with esxi server, so that is what I use even if it's not quite as powerful (eg. you can't do software RAID with it).
One idea I've toyed with is to just something like the esxi hypervisor or Unraid installed on my machine and make the GPU and USB host devices directly available to the VMs through device passthrough. Then I could have whatever OSes I want installed on the machine with near-native performance because the guest OS has direct hardware access. Then you'd also have the ability to spoof or disable hardware you didn't want the OS to have access to (eg. microphone and camera devices).
Can you recommend some resources to learn more about this?
This all works using a fairly recent (past 5 years or so) feature of modern CPUs called device virtualization. This allows a virtual machine to have direct access to hardware installed in the host machine (eg. a GPU). So when you boot up the VM the hardware shows up in device manager, you have to install the device drivers, and the VM can use the hardware without any performance penalty. The caveat is that multiple VMs can't use the same device at the same time unless you have hardware that is explicitly designed for it (eg. some very high-end GPUs designed for large VM systems).
Two main VM environments people use for this are VMWare ESXi and the KVM system in Linux. This video is of a guy doing this in VMWare, this video is of a guy doing this in a commercial variant of the Linux KVM system.
I've experimented with this using VMWare since I already had an ESXi server with a GPU handy and found it to be pretty straightforward. But the KVM stuff being based on a full-blown Linux kernel gives a lot more flexibility.
This all works using a fairly recent (past 5 years or so) feature of modern CPUs called device virtualization. This allows a virtual machine to have direct access to hardware installed in the host machine (eg. a GPU). So when you boot up the VM the hardware shows up in device manager, you have to install the device drivers, and the VM can use the hardware without any performance penalty. The caveat is that multiple VMs can't use the same device at the same time unless you have hardware that is explicitly designed for it (eg. some very high-end GPUs designed for large VM systems).
Whenever I have tried this, the VM has always been excruciatingly slow. There always seems to be a performance penalty, even when I assign 8 threads and 8 GB of memory (and never load it too much). But I have not used what you mentioned, but simply VMWare Workstation.
Two main VM environments people use for this are VMWare ESXi and the KVM system in Linux. This video is of a guy doing this in VMWare, this video is of a guy doing this in a commercial variant of the Linux KVM system.
The TPM requirement is worrisome and I'll probably pass on Windows 11 based on that. In theory TPM can lead to only allowing whitelisted applications to run on your PC, and this has been a decades long goal for Microsoft to achieve at this point.
This isn't even getting into the fact that TPM tends to be disabled by default within the bios for non-OEM systems, and the need to back up and restore keys when swapping out the CPU, motherboard, or updating your motherboard bios. Anybody not technically literate enough to understand everything here (especially backing up and restoring keys) is screwed.
TPMs can be nice if the end-user has the ability to program the keys into them. For example I want to be able to sign the exact version of the OS/software I run with my own key. Unfortunately the BIOS doesn't always let you add new SecureBoot keys to the TPM.
This would be another reason to do everything through VMs, as you can add a virtual TPM to the VM that you'd be able to back up and copy to a new physical system.
They rigged it so that the efi bios can only have one root certificate so only one organization has to sign all the keys. So you can only securely dual boot Windows and Linux if Microsoft signed both of the bootloaders.
So if you don't want to be under MS's thumb you can never use Windows and you're going to have to build your own linux because the major distros are signed by Microsoft.
Basically TPM should be making your system more secure, but in reality it's taking away control over your own computer.
OEMs sometimes have the ability to change the root certificate. I know this because at work we were looking into having a signed OS for a regulated/certified product, and we wanted it to be our root certificate instead of microsoft's.
Though it's not true of all motherboards/BIOSes that you can change the root cert. And in general I would say that the proprietary nature of BIOSes today is becoming as big an issue as the proprietary nature of operating systems 30 years ago, and we probably need to start exerting more pressure on hardware vendors to support coreboot or TianoCore or whatever other open source BIOS is popular.
This happened to me. Win7 was great and no problem. All of a sudden, a windows update bricked my comp like 1+ year ago. I figured id build a new comp cause i wanted to get a better cpu, which is when i also upgraded to win10.
I’ve sold my soul to Mac but that’s because I’m also into music production which is heavily Mac OS based. But the reality is any of the 3 Computer options are slimy and gross and it’s really a issue of pick your poison and which evil you can live with
Fuck no. It has been a long damn time since Microsoft put out a product that was decent on launch. If it weren't for deprecation most users would still be on Windows 7.
Possibly, if I don't have to pay for it. Although I've moved a ton of my use to Linux, I really only use Windows for a few specific programs that I need it for and for limited gaming use. So, if they are going to stalk me, they won't get much.
Honestly, I'm still annoyed about the forced upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. All this forced upgrade stuff is making me consider installing Linux on my next gaming PC, when my current one is no longer usable. How is Linux for gaming nowdays?
Are you willing to quit games that will be Windows 11 exclusive? Are you willing to pay nearly double for Mac? Are you willing to run woke-first competency-last open source software that puts your machine at security risk?
Eventually new hardware will no longer support whatever version of Windows you're using. Are you not going to upgrade your computer in forever, or will your components not expire?
Windows XP launch: Bloatware! Automatic updates? Microsoft phoning home! Switch away!
Windows Vista: New driver model! Shader video card required? Microsoft broke compatibility with my shitty sound card that needs drivers at ring 0 or whatever. Switch away!
Windows 7: Still bloated! Activate windows or you get nagware? DirectInput going away! Switch away!
Windows 8: It's for tablets! Is anything new? Can't do any real work with this! Switch away!
Windows 10: Privacy nightmare! Forced updates? Windows 7 automatically upgrades to this! Switch away!
If everyone was like you there would be no problem, is my point of bitchery. For every one person who tells Microsoft to eat a dick there are thousands more who just follow and enables a continual downward spiral to no one owning what they bought. Every Windows upgrade there's a ton of angry tech-aware diatribes that change nothing because they're empty words and I'm tired of it. I blame them, not you, for it.
With games it’s going to need a lot of research going forward. See factorio devs telling sjws to shove it.
And at least apples privacy issues is typically them trying to figure out how you use their products to make better products, unlike google who uses your data sell you ads.
My only real complaint with apple’s ecosystem other than their right to repair issues is the issue with their walled garden being they hold the keys. If I can set up a walled garden for my devices but be the one that gets to decide when the draw bridge is let down it would not be such a bad deal
I have a decently sized backlog of old games to play. I abhor keyboard+mouse as a method of input for gaming as well. Homebrew emulation on 3ds and psp is going a long way for me.
New stuff isn't all that good. I'm not hip enough with the trends. I like to strip java off sites I visit and manually clean up some bad site design choices with ublock. I like plain text; give me irc over discord any day.
Eventually new hardware will no longer support whatever version of Windows you're using. Are you not going to upgrade your computer in forever, or will your components not expire?
This is the thing that worries me. Eventually my hardware will die. I'm hoping I can find some replacement hardware at a thrift store. I've gotten so accustomed to laptop typing that I'd really like to build my own laptop, but it seems to not really be a thing. I can barely understand desktop building anyway.
I'm pretty much prepared to just stop, though. There's plenty of books to read. I can get a mechanical typewriter for my filing.
Geez, I only updated to Win10 at the last minute because the first round of free update had a bug that prevented me from updating then. And as far as this Win11 goes (which wasn't supposed to exist), I don't have that necessary chip thingy on my rig. I bought the cpu and mb just before FO4 came out.
I upgraded to 10 from 7 as soon as 10 came out. I dealt with ongoing issues with a bunch of broken drivers until I did a clean install months later.
I might use Windows 11, but I'm not going to get it any time soon. Microsoft has left a bad taste in my mouth with some of their Windows 10 updates, I'll wait 'til the kinks are ironed out.
I only bother to replace windows when I build something.
Considering the current state of the parts market, I don't anticipate building another computer during this administration. Right now I couldn't even buy all the parts I used in what I have now.
Sadly, it's believed linus himself is going regressive now as he bashed vaccine critics.
The linux project has not been under his control for many years.
True, but his bashing of vax critics is a warning sign that putting it back under his control will not fix shit.
He bashed a vaccine critic who was spouting scientifically illiterate nonsense. mRNA does not self-replicate - it is a set of instructions for producing a protein that is not strictly single use, but will decompose in a few days at most. An mRNA vaccine does not operate at a level where it is capable of "basically creating a new humanoid race, who generate and exhaust the toxic spike protein."
If you think that the spike protein might be toxic either directly or by inducing a harmful immune response, that is a topic worthy of discussion, but it's the difference between "we cannot trust Chinese 5G infrastructure to not contain spyware" and "5G radiation causes cancer!"
So your saying that he was calling out legitimate BS rather than engaging in general bashing?
Source?
You could have read Linus's email when altmehere posted the accusation.
Apple is just as bad. Do not switch to MacOS.
Yeah wtf, if invasiveness and restrictiveness is your concern then stay away from Apple
in some way's i argue crapple is worse mainly due to their anti consumer bs and actively hampering after market modification, right to repair, and the planned obsolesce stuff
I'm still running Windows 7...
Real men still use XP.
Yeah, but not gamers.
Don't make me get out my 98 install discs.
All 98 of them?
????
If it supported more than 4 gigs of ram, I honestly would be.
XP-64 existed (though it wasn't very well advertised) and was probably the best OS Microsoft ever released.
As with the vaccine. I'm going to use the rest of the population as test subject before I make my decision.
If/when that happens, expect to pay $10/month for Windows, have to keep your PC connected to the internet for it to re-activate itself whenever you turn your computer on, and to lose access to your PC if you ever stop renewing.
Or get locked out if you upset the SJWs or the government...
I heard that win11 is going to be free just like win8.1 was for win8 users, though I would not be surprised if it crams telemetry into critical components so that it could not be turned off...
The trend is every other Windows OS should be skipped, so I think I'll pass.
Win 98 - Yes
Win ME - No
Win XP - Yes
Vista - No
Win 7 - Yes
Win 8 - No
Win 10 - Yes
Win 11 - No
I disagree. Windows 10 is a fucking stinker.
at least it was better than win8.
A kick in the nuts is better than win8.
If I were going to upgrade I'd be looking for the equivalent to the LTSC version of Windows 10. That's the version they developed for large enterprises and regulated industries with all the crap (Cortana, the tracking stuff, the XBox integration stuff, default installed apps, etc...) removed.
One idea I've toyed with is to just something like the esxi hypervisor or Unraid installed on my machine and make the GPU and USB host devices directly available to the VMs through device passthrough. Then I could have whatever OSes I want installed on the machine with near-native performance because the guest OS has direct hardware access. Then you'd also have the ability to spoof or disable hardware you didn't want the OS to have access to (eg. microphone and camera devices).
That would let you install Linux for day-to-day stuff and still have a Windows install for gaming.
Since you mentioned LTT I'll mention he's done this a few times over the years.
Here is a build he did with 7 GPUs that is basically a LAN party in a box.
A few years later he attempted to build a single PC that all his editors could use as an editing workstation
Apparently Unraid is designed to be able to do this sort of thing out of the box and uses KVM under the hood. Though personally I'm more familiar with esxi server, so that is what I use even if it's not quite as powerful (eg. you can't do software RAID with it).
Can you recommend some resources to learn more about this?
This all works using a fairly recent (past 5 years or so) feature of modern CPUs called device virtualization. This allows a virtual machine to have direct access to hardware installed in the host machine (eg. a GPU). So when you boot up the VM the hardware shows up in device manager, you have to install the device drivers, and the VM can use the hardware without any performance penalty. The caveat is that multiple VMs can't use the same device at the same time unless you have hardware that is explicitly designed for it (eg. some very high-end GPUs designed for large VM systems).
Two main VM environments people use for this are VMWare ESXi and the KVM system in Linux. This video is of a guy doing this in VMWare, this video is of a guy doing this in a commercial variant of the Linux KVM system.
I've experimented with this using VMWare since I already had an ESXi server with a GPU handy and found it to be pretty straightforward. But the KVM stuff being based on a full-blown Linux kernel gives a lot more flexibility.
Whenever I have tried this, the VM has always been excruciatingly slow. There always seems to be a performance penalty, even when I assign 8 threads and 8 GB of memory (and never load it too much). But I have not used what you mentioned, but simply VMWare Workstation.
Thank you. I'll look into this.
Well, I am convinced. ESXi it is for me.
The TPM requirement is worrisome and I'll probably pass on Windows 11 based on that. In theory TPM can lead to only allowing whitelisted applications to run on your PC, and this has been a decades long goal for Microsoft to achieve at this point.
This isn't even getting into the fact that TPM tends to be disabled by default within the bios for non-OEM systems, and the need to back up and restore keys when swapping out the CPU, motherboard, or updating your motherboard bios. Anybody not technically literate enough to understand everything here (especially backing up and restoring keys) is screwed.
TPMs can be nice if the end-user has the ability to program the keys into them. For example I want to be able to sign the exact version of the OS/software I run with my own key. Unfortunately the BIOS doesn't always let you add new SecureBoot keys to the TPM.
This would be another reason to do everything through VMs, as you can add a virtual TPM to the VM that you'd be able to back up and copy to a new physical system.
The keys still must be signed by Microsoft.
They rigged it so that the efi bios can only have one root certificate so only one organization has to sign all the keys. So you can only securely dual boot Windows and Linux if Microsoft signed both of the bootloaders.
So if you don't want to be under MS's thumb you can never use Windows and you're going to have to build your own linux because the major distros are signed by Microsoft.
Basically TPM should be making your system more secure, but in reality it's taking away control over your own computer.
OEMs sometimes have the ability to change the root certificate. I know this because at work we were looking into having a signed OS for a regulated/certified product, and we wanted it to be our root certificate instead of microsoft's.
Though it's not true of all motherboards/BIOSes that you can change the root cert. And in general I would say that the proprietary nature of BIOSes today is becoming as big an issue as the proprietary nature of operating systems 30 years ago, and we probably need to start exerting more pressure on hardware vendors to support coreboot or TianoCore or whatever other open source BIOS is popular.
When has a windows update ever been an actual upgrade?
This happened to me. Win7 was great and no problem. All of a sudden, a windows update bricked my comp like 1+ year ago. I figured id build a new comp cause i wanted to get a better cpu, which is when i also upgraded to win10.
I'm still using Windows 7.
I didn't even upgrade to 10, Microsoft did that in the night without consulting me. I imagine it will inevitably be the same deal.
I’ve sold my soul to Mac but that’s because I’m also into music production which is heavily Mac OS based. But the reality is any of the 3 Computer options are slimy and gross and it’s really a issue of pick your poison and which evil you can live with
Probably not. I'm anticipating that it will be a complete shit show like Windows 8, Vista, ME, and 95.
Once the government mandates all computers use it in order to secure against racism and sexism in private file documents, of course!
Fuck no. It has been a long damn time since Microsoft put out a product that was decent on launch. If it weren't for deprecation most users would still be on Windows 7.
Possibly, if I don't have to pay for it. Although I've moved a ton of my use to Linux, I really only use Windows for a few specific programs that I need it for and for limited gaming use. So, if they are going to stalk me, they won't get much.
Honestly, I'm still annoyed about the forced upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. All this forced upgrade stuff is making me consider installing Linux on my next gaming PC, when my current one is no longer usable. How is Linux for gaming nowdays?
From what I’ve heard better. A significant number of smaller developers are starting to develop for it natively now.
I hardly ever buy AAA games anyway. I should look into it.
No, I'm not retarded. Okay, I am retarded but not as retarded as Windows 11.
I'll treat it the same way I treated Windows 8 and ignore it
Next pc will probably dual boot with a Linux distro being my main os with the windows one being just for whatever games does not run well with wine
Win11 doesnt like my specs even though its not even that old. So I cant.
Work computer will be controlled by work. But my home computers run Linux.
You will, the person reading this.
Are you willing to quit games that will be Windows 11 exclusive? Are you willing to pay nearly double for Mac? Are you willing to run woke-first competency-last open source software that puts your machine at security risk?
Eventually new hardware will no longer support whatever version of Windows you're using. Are you not going to upgrade your computer in forever, or will your components not expire?
Life is terrible.
Hey, that's great. But very few follow.
Windows XP launch: Bloatware! Automatic updates? Microsoft phoning home! Switch away!
Windows Vista: New driver model! Shader video card required? Microsoft broke compatibility with my shitty sound card that needs drivers at ring 0 or whatever. Switch away!
Windows 7: Still bloated! Activate windows or you get nagware? DirectInput going away! Switch away!
Windows 8: It's for tablets! Is anything new? Can't do any real work with this! Switch away!
Windows 10: Privacy nightmare! Forced updates? Windows 7 automatically upgrades to this! Switch away!
If everyone was like you there would be no problem, is my point of bitchery. For every one person who tells Microsoft to eat a dick there are thousands more who just follow and enables a continual downward spiral to no one owning what they bought. Every Windows upgrade there's a ton of angry tech-aware diatribes that change nothing because they're empty words and I'm tired of it. I blame them, not you, for it.
"You will own nothing and be happy."
The only reason an advanced user would own apple hardware at this point would be to use it to develop software for those platforms.
With games it’s going to need a lot of research going forward. See factorio devs telling sjws to shove it.
And at least apples privacy issues is typically them trying to figure out how you use their products to make better products, unlike google who uses your data sell you ads.
My only real complaint with apple’s ecosystem other than their right to repair issues is the issue with their walled garden being they hold the keys. If I can set up a walled garden for my devices but be the one that gets to decide when the draw bridge is let down it would not be such a bad deal
I have a decently sized backlog of old games to play. I abhor keyboard+mouse as a method of input for gaming as well. Homebrew emulation on 3ds and psp is going a long way for me.
New stuff isn't all that good. I'm not hip enough with the trends. I like to strip java off sites I visit and manually clean up some bad site design choices with ublock. I like plain text; give me irc over discord any day.
This is the thing that worries me. Eventually my hardware will die. I'm hoping I can find some replacement hardware at a thrift store. I've gotten so accustomed to laptop typing that I'd really like to build my own laptop, but it seems to not really be a thing. I can barely understand desktop building anyway.
I'm pretty much prepared to just stop, though. There's plenty of books to read. I can get a mechanical typewriter for my filing.
Geez, I only updated to Win10 at the last minute because the first round of free update had a bug that prevented me from updating then. And as far as this Win11 goes (which wasn't supposed to exist), I don't have that necessary chip thingy on my rig. I bought the cpu and mb just before FO4 came out.
still on 7. if the time comes that that's no longer an option i'll probably move to some flavor of linux.
I run steam under Debian and I can run most windows games with better performance than a windows machine.
Windows is obsolete.
Lol. I'm still on 8.1. Next os will probably be Linux, because fuck m$
I upgraded to 10 from 7 as soon as 10 came out. I dealt with ongoing issues with a bunch of broken drivers until I did a clean install months later.
I might use Windows 11, but I'm not going to get it any time soon. Microsoft has left a bad taste in my mouth with some of their Windows 10 updates, I'll wait 'til the kinks are ironed out.
The women got to him, boys.
Don’t worry, I knew you’d never sell out I was just making a joke.
Damn, yeah I really wanted that phone but the price was too much.