What are you talking about? 100k will be needed to be fronted just to petition a work visa from now on. It's essentially the end of the growth of H1B's aside from individuals exceptional enough to warrant that kind of expense.
Stopping the hemorrhage is a huge win. It's certainly a lot more than I expected when I first read about the number.
100k over 5 years doesnt matter? Saving money on that order of magnitude is most of the reason they were mass importing pajeets in the first place. They are trying to save money by importing slaves that would work for less.
You're pulling those numbers out of your ass. I guess we'll see the effects over a year or two. I'd be willing to bet the growth of the program slows to a crawl.
I am, but there's a reason H1B's get hired over Americans and I highly doubt it's because the company wants to save $5k a year per worker.
We'll see what happens, but if you look at the trend, it's been getting crazy . You can read more on it here. The cap has also been hit earlier and earlier. It used to take all year, now we hit it in April.
look up how expense amortization works. The corporations importing pajeets en masse have all sorts of financial mechanisms to cook their books.
it doesn’t matter dude when you’re paying pennies on the dollar compared to native born, that more than makes up for it. Not to mention h1Bs are practically indentured servants for 5, 10 or 15 years.
The solution is very fucking simple. Eliminate the H1B program.
I'm aware of how it works. I agree it should be eliminated completely, but this will undoubtedly majorly curb the growth of the program. Especially given there is still 3.5 years of this administration. Companies will be wary to invest in H1bs that take years to pay off when the rules of the game can change again at any time.
Trump has walked back all of his hardline positions. This is optics before mid terms.
Tariffs. Another good example. No. Companies aren’t on shoring. They're offshoring still. Oil and gas is still under produced.
We need to stop coping. I want this to be “camels back” as much as anyone. But it really is very simple to stop H1B applications. If Rubio can automatically deport you for being anti Israel he can stop H1B Carte Blanche too.
A lot of people will never be happy, even if Trump didn't backtrack. I've done my share of dooming but this timeline is still so much better than if Kamala were president.
Just stay away from people who are never happy; both online and in real life.
Exactly, doomers need a reality check. We had absolutely nothing 48 hours ago, then what was looking like a potentially legendary win, now downgraded to a very solid and important win. Assuming the info in that tweet is true, H1B goes from rapidly expanding to virtually staying the same size.
There's still a lot of ground to be covered, but this is still the pleasant surprise of this week for me. Much more of an actual, meaningful W than some late night fag with less viewers than a medium sized YouTube channel getting his show canceled.
We haven't been getting actual Mexicans as a majority of migrants for a decade plus.
We mostly get commies from south of their border.
I used to prefer Indians as immigrants back when we were actually getting their best, those days are over, we are being used as a dumping ground now by India too.
In the past couple years I have come to the conclusion that the President Monroe was right, keep the Old World contained. Sucks for the good people over there but there are too many bad ones. Use our big beautiful oceans.
They effectively just upped the one time fee. At best that kills a few lowest end arrivals. For the rest it just means corpos will demand applicants stay with them for longer to pay that off.
So when you "negotiate" and both sides agree to 1% of what you asked for, it's actually what you wanted from the beginning but the other side feel like they
"won."
In that case, we need to ask for mass extermination of all Indian nationals within our borders, followed by nuclear annihilation of India once they're all there, so we can walk it back to canceling the H1-B program and revoking any green cards issued under it.
And we have to push for TKD just to get Trump to agree to not commit our military to Israel's wars or to abolish the Fed (it would be impossible to get him to agree to both).
I had a bet with a coworker that Trump would cuck out and betray US workers but they'd probably wait until mid-week to walk it back and "do the needful". Just like the Chinese student ban from a few weeks ago.
Did he actually backtrack? or was it backtracking from what people imagined the new rules were?
Was it previously retroactively or did people just wish it was?
Did any of you people read the original text? There was no verbage in it to make it annual.
It was just weirdly written so people THOUGHT it was annual. The text was saying that the order itself was going to last one year, and that after one year they're going to re-evaluate the order itself to see if they can extend it.
The most important part for them to do right now is to pass legislation to bar them. This EO is only temporary.
Trump the turbocuck.
Next up, no mass arrests of leftist terrorists and he gets shot again.
And makes anti-semitism illegal.
And asking for the Epstein files is now Antisemitism
ghostfox1_ would call that a win.
And vaccinated one more time
Looks like they took everything back and nothing really changes.
What are you talking about? 100k will be needed to be fronted just to petition a work visa from now on. It's essentially the end of the growth of H1B's aside from individuals exceptional enough to warrant that kind of expense.
Stopping the hemorrhage is a huge win. It's certainly a lot more than I expected when I first read about the number.
It's still better than nothing, but it's sad how obviously Trump cucks out.
There is a silver lining though. Trump's corruption itself is broadcast in an overblown, Trumpian way, which is redpilling many people.
The visa fee is paid by the visa sponsor.
And can be written off as tax deduction.
And $100k over 5-10 years doesn’t even matter to these companies.
100k over 5 years doesnt matter? Saving money on that order of magnitude is most of the reason they were mass importing pajeets in the first place. They are trying to save money by importing slaves that would work for less.
Paying an American $90k a year vs a jeet $60k a year, that $100k will be absorbed in the difference in no time.
You're pulling those numbers out of your ass. I guess we'll see the effects over a year or two. I'd be willing to bet the growth of the program slows to a crawl.
I am, but there's a reason H1B's get hired over Americans and I highly doubt it's because the company wants to save $5k a year per worker.
We'll see what happens, but if you look at the trend, it's been getting crazy . You can read more on it here. The cap has also been hit earlier and earlier. It used to take all year, now we hit it in April.
5 years is very conservative.
look up how expense amortization works. The corporations importing pajeets en masse have all sorts of financial mechanisms to cook their books.
it doesn’t matter dude when you’re paying pennies on the dollar compared to native born, that more than makes up for it. Not to mention h1Bs are practically indentured servants for 5, 10 or 15 years.
The solution is very fucking simple. Eliminate the H1B program.
I'm aware of how it works. I agree it should be eliminated completely, but this will undoubtedly majorly curb the growth of the program. Especially given there is still 3.5 years of this administration. Companies will be wary to invest in H1bs that take years to pay off when the rules of the game can change again at any time.
Trump has walked back all of his hardline positions. This is optics before mid terms.
Tariffs. Another good example. No. Companies aren’t on shoring. They're offshoring still. Oil and gas is still under produced.
We need to stop coping. I want this to be “camels back” as much as anyone. But it really is very simple to stop H1B applications. If Rubio can automatically deport you for being anti Israel he can stop H1B Carte Blanche too.
And the biggest offenders will probably get a discount or an outright waiver.
Honestly, it's stormfags and Leftist larpers pushing an anti-Trump propganda as hard as they can.
Give it 6 months and they'll be saying "Things were better under Biden".
A lot of people will never be happy, even if Trump didn't backtrack. I've done my share of dooming but this timeline is still so much better than if Kamala were president.
Just stay away from people who are never happy; both online and in real life.
This is a better a better timeline on this issue today than I thought it would be two days ago.
Exactly, doomers need a reality check. We had absolutely nothing 48 hours ago, then what was looking like a potentially legendary win, now downgraded to a very solid and important win. Assuming the info in that tweet is true, H1B goes from rapidly expanding to virtually staying the same size.
There's still a lot of ground to be covered, but this is still the pleasant surprise of this week for me. Much more of an actual, meaningful W than some late night fag with less viewers than a medium sized YouTube channel getting his show canceled.
I wish I could get excited ONE time for something this administration does.
It really would be nice if he were even half the menace that the left thinks he is.
Instead our country is going to continue marching straight off a fucking cliff.
honestly.. at this point, i rather have the mexicans than the jeets at this point if we gonna get cucked over. lol
We haven't been getting actual Mexicans as a majority of migrants for a decade plus.
We mostly get commies from south of their border.
I used to prefer Indians as immigrants back when we were actually getting their best, those days are over, we are being used as a dumping ground now by India too.
In the past couple years I have come to the conclusion that the President Monroe was right, keep the Old World contained. Sucks for the good people over there but there are too many bad ones. Use our big beautiful oceans.
Why do you prefer Mexicans?
Meh but this at least kills any NEW arrivals.
Tomorrow WILL be fun as a bunch on H1Bs outside the US were told to rush back before this deadline so airports will be packed!
They effectively just upped the one time fee. At best that kills a few lowest end arrivals. For the rest it just means corpos will demand applicants stay with them for longer to pay that off.
Looks like indentured servitude it back on the menu!
News agencies should film Every US Airport tomorrow:
https://x.com/elijahschaffer/status/1969074988419305790
Sigh The Orange Man tricked me again, again…
This is what Trump always does.
The Big Ask™
You want something. You ask for 1,000% more.
So when you "negotiate" and both sides agree to 1% of what you asked for, it's actually what you wanted from the beginning but the other side feel like they "won."
In that case, we need to ask for mass extermination of all Indian nationals within our borders, followed by nuclear annihilation of India once they're all there, so we can walk it back to canceling the H1-B program and revoking any green cards issued under it.
And we have to push for TKD just to get Trump to agree to not commit our military to Israel's wars or to abolish the Fed (it would be impossible to get him to agree to both).
It’s time for the base to chimp out again. He’s A-B testing again.
I had a bet with a coworker that Trump would cuck out and betray US workers but they'd probably wait until mid-week to walk it back and "do the needful". Just like the Chinese student ban from a few weeks ago.
Amazing.
Perfection is the enemy of good.
Did he actually backtrack? or was it backtracking from what people imagined the new rules were? Was it previously retroactively or did people just wish it was?
Lutnick said in a press conference with Trump himself that it was "per year": https://x.com/DoctorLFC/status/1969592826628620715
Lutnick is a snaketongue spellcasting demon though, so consider the source and why he said it.
Fuck
Did any of you people read the original text? There was no verbage in it to make it annual.
It was just weirdly written so people THOUGHT it was annual. The text was saying that the order itself was going to last one year, and that after one year they're going to re-evaluate the order itself to see if they can extend it.
The most important part for them to do right now is to pass legislation to bar them. This EO is only temporary.
Lutnick said in a press conference with Trump himself that it was "per year": https://x.com/DoctorLFC/status/1969592826628620715
So the left hand isn't speaking to the right - cuz the original text doesn't specify "per year".
Who the fuck is correct on this lol
These comments: "Why did you just close the wound?! Why didn't you undo the damage?!"
Patience, people, patience. Many will self-deport.
You don't win the chess game in two moves unless the opponent screws up massively.
TACO
Trump Always 🐥 Out
Ah the monthly "No Political Solution" blackpill that's been this entire administration so far
When did they say it was anything other than this?