In a few years you won't be able to search through websites at all. When you go to a search engine, it will be curated AI derived promotion of a handful of webpages or sites that are approved and all other traffic will be incredibly difficult to access.
So... question. With how garbage Google has been lately, and how mediocre the alternatives are. What's stopping someone from making a new Google search engine that worked the way the old one did?
Based on the history of various other alternative tech services, I would expect any serious non-woke competing service to spontaneously become the subject of onerous investigations, payment processing roadblocks, and/or compliance requirements.
If ANY mod site can't take advantage to establish themselves when Nexus is stabbing themselves in the gut like this, then that's more on the mod community.
There is no need for this because PARENTAL CONTROLS EXIST. We should be fining parents that can't easily apply use locks and site restrictions to their kids devices.
I dunno, if my son can't figure out a way around a porn blocker he's probably not my son.
When I was younger I didn't have an issue with teens looking at porn, but when I was a teenager porn was like "i saw some bewbs" (vs watching some chick get gangbanged until she's ragdolling). The rise of sites like pornhub and the youtube-esque interface is extremely destructive.
Of course age/identity-verification is going to be abused, not yet sure what I'm going to do with my son other than (more or less) imparting the "NEVER GOON" wisdom.
[Edit: AI generated coomer shit is also going to become a huge problem]
Parents too dumb or uncaring to install controls = kids getting easy access to stuff they shouldn't but also not learning basic IT.
They install basic controls: could stop them most times, they learn to be more computer savy at least
Advanced controls: they might either get even better with computers or go to a friend with less interested parents.
As for AI porn, your best bet is instill a fantasy/reality distinction in him so he KNOWS one is fantasy, the other is fiction. That'll save him A LOT of trouble growing up.
Unless you can go full Amish over it and not touch it whatsoever, being able to distinguish it's not real is the BEST counter to it controlling your life.
Of course, but I don't think that's going to stop disenfranchised men from going down that path. At some point people will simply decide it doesn't matter if it is real or not (AI is easy to recognize) - better to fulfill your basic needs, which may not be achievable in real life. I don't worry about this for my own children, but I think this will become a real issue in the coming decades.
You monitor your children the best you can, but all children desire to rebel. It is better to impart the wisdom to them such that they can make better decisions on their own.
I already screen everything he watches, but at a certain point you have to let them fly on their own, hopefully armed with the tools to deal with life.
There is no need for this because PARENTAL CONTROLS EXIST.
To be honest, every year, it's becoming more and more impossible for parents to control anything.
Phone access? They are everywhere, and old / bad ones can be bought for cheap because most people only want the latest version and throw / sell their old ones.
Internet access? Yeah you can restrict your router, but internet is accessible almost everywhere now, school, universities, airports, libraries, or even the neighbor's unprotected WiFi. What's stopping a kid from using internet somewhere else, without the parent ever knowing about it?
Internet history? Again, if the kid is using something like a smartphone and 5G, or someone else's internet, it won't pass through your router, so you have no idea what site they got in.
Parental codes? They were always very easy to crack. An attentive children will easily spot which numbers the parent presses, or brute force it while the parent is busy somewhere else.
I'm not excusing the parents doing a poor job, but I know that if I were a father myself, I would have a LOT of troubles keeping the restrictions up and actually efficient (and that's coming from a computer guy / programmer).
Yeah, I think it's almost impossible to stop kids from getting where you don't want them as a parent. Even if you never give them a phone, if they go to public school they will use their friends' unlocked phones. I can guarantee not every kid in school has a dumbphone or a locked-down phone.
No it won't. This won't be any more effective than the DMCA was at stamping out piracy. Porn sites will get scraped, bundled, and torrented.
If the goal is to reduce the profits that porn makes, it will have some impact. If the goal is to actually block underage exposure? Not a chance in hell it works.
And pretending it will work just turns it into an anti-anonymity arms race until you need a government-controlled camera watching you to open an IP connection and that still won't work.
Making it inconvenient is sometimes enough to at least mitigate most of the damage.
And a lot of places like libraries and universities have their own blocks in place. VPN's cost money. You can restrict data use on phone plans.
And while sure, they might be able to get some limited access from a friend's phone, they're not exactly going to be able to binge-watch through that kind of setup without it being really weird.
Making it "inconvenient" is far from enough though. You could argue the magazines era was pretty inconvenient (had to find someone able to get those, then find someplace to hide them everytime), that didn't stop many kids from trying.
Do you really trust schools and universities to have strong blockers, when you see the state of the modern education system? They generally have the worst IT support possible.
Some VPN are free, which is an even bigger danger, cause they are extremely questionable with terrible security (generally on purpose).
Phones can access WiFi and be used without data plans.
When I see some Redditors willing to travel just to give HRT and stuff to minors, I don't think granting access to porn is that far-fetched, especially when you consider how normalised it has become.
Yeah first off FUCK nexus. They know what they do. Secondly, not my call, but obscenity remains illegal in this country. And legal measures to prevent children from accessing adult content that is not obscene are allowed.
Of course, it's just the tools are there for parents to do it and I don't enjoy giving both faceless companies and governments permissions to deny me information they may deem inappropriate without ID as we KNOW it'll never be restricted to just porn.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
― C. S. Lewis
Obviously consenting adults don't know any better, but we do, so you must tell us you're a consenting adult, and tell us what you're doing at all times. It's for your own good.
Give us all your personal info if you're so nonchalant about having it out there for everyone to see. Why do you have a screen name instead of your legal name, huh?
if they need you to send in an ID to download Project Nevada or whatever then they're retarded.
if they're only going to need you to send in an ID to download Suck'n'Fuck Supreme: Rape Addon for Skyrim i'm completely fine with those people losing their privacy. i only wish i had access to their identities.
Their next step will be "internet ID" issued by the government to access all these sites, your identity and internet history will always be known to them.
People still mostly don't catch on when some sperg goes postal, then the after reports mention "He Googled "How to make a bomb/How do I buy a gun?" after the fact as though everything is just sitting in a log somewhere.
well no shit it's on a log somewhere but at least there's plausible deniability of the individual having been on the device at that time, no such case when you have to use photo ID and have a real time camera.
Sometimes I joke/muse about going back to Australia to save it, but it's way too late. I was born like 50 years too late to even have a chance to save it.
Thats how they get conservatives, women and normals to support things like this.. the "think of the children" angle. Just dangle a dead syrian kid on a beach and suddenly its an okay to bring in millions of rapefugees.
Got it: to solve this problem that we created, you get to give up your privacy, security and internet freedom, without solving this problem.
In a few years you won't be able to search through websites at all. When you go to a search engine, it will be curated AI derived promotion of a handful of webpages or sites that are approved and all other traffic will be incredibly difficult to access.
So... question. With how garbage Google has been lately, and how mediocre the alternatives are. What's stopping someone from making a new Google search engine that worked the way the old one did?
Nothing any more. Their patent expired AFAIK.
A lot of "search engines" use Google results because they don't want to invest in the crawling. So just money is obstacle.
Based on the history of various other alternative tech services, I would expect any serious non-woke competing service to spontaneously become the subject of onerous investigations, payment processing roadblocks, and/or compliance requirements.
It's called yandex. So far it's the least neutered search engine I know of.
How is this different from current search engines? Seriously, there is a reason that paid search engines are an emerging business venture.
If ANY mod site can't take advantage to establish themselves when Nexus is stabbing themselves in the gut like this, then that's more on the mod community.
There is no need for this because PARENTAL CONTROLS EXIST. We should be fining parents that can't easily apply use locks and site restrictions to their kids devices.
I dunno, if my son can't figure out a way around a porn blocker he's probably not my son.
When I was younger I didn't have an issue with teens looking at porn, but when I was a teenager porn was like "i saw some bewbs" (vs watching some chick get gangbanged until she's ragdolling). The rise of sites like pornhub and the youtube-esque interface is extremely destructive.
Of course age/identity-verification is going to be abused, not yet sure what I'm going to do with my son other than (more or less) imparting the "NEVER GOON" wisdom.
[Edit: AI generated coomer shit is also going to become a huge problem]
It's kinda a degenerate disease:
Parents too dumb or uncaring to install controls = kids getting easy access to stuff they shouldn't but also not learning basic IT.
They install basic controls: could stop them most times, they learn to be more computer savy at least
Advanced controls: they might either get even better with computers or go to a friend with less interested parents.
As for AI porn, your best bet is instill a fantasy/reality distinction in him so he KNOWS one is fantasy, the other is fiction. That'll save him A LOT of trouble growing up.
I meant this more as an existential threat. People are already going crazy with ChatGPT, imagine the societal checkout from "AI Girlfriend with lewd"
Unfortunately, same response applies.
Unless you can go full Amish over it and not touch it whatsoever, being able to distinguish it's not real is the BEST counter to it controlling your life.
Of course, but I don't think that's going to stop disenfranchised men from going down that path. At some point people will simply decide it doesn't matter if it is real or not (AI is easy to recognize) - better to fulfill your basic needs, which may not be achievable in real life. I don't worry about this for my own children, but I think this will become a real issue in the coming decades.
If nothing else, installing parental controls is a great way to teach your kid sysadmin skills.
And now you’re an adult and see that porn probably isn’t a good idea to look at when you’re 10.
No you catch them.
You monitor your children the best you can, but all children desire to rebel. It is better to impart the wisdom to them such that they can make better decisions on their own.
I already screen everything he watches, but at a certain point you have to let them fly on their own, hopefully armed with the tools to deal with life.
Wow, it's almost as if the majority of the population shouldn't be on the internet because the lack the ability to do so responsibly.
Make the internet IQ gated again.
Sad my kids will miss out on the “opportunity” to watch a woman being banged by her dog. 😒
What kind of financial barriers exist on parental controls? Are they gated to YouTube Premium or something?
TL;DR: you have to pay for third party software that runs on your devices in order to gain access to actual website databases.
To be honest, every year, it's becoming more and more impossible for parents to control anything.
Phone access? They are everywhere, and old / bad ones can be bought for cheap because most people only want the latest version and throw / sell their old ones.
Internet access? Yeah you can restrict your router, but internet is accessible almost everywhere now, school, universities, airports, libraries, or even the neighbor's unprotected WiFi. What's stopping a kid from using internet somewhere else, without the parent ever knowing about it?
Internet history? Again, if the kid is using something like a smartphone and 5G, or someone else's internet, it won't pass through your router, so you have no idea what site they got in.
Parental codes? They were always very easy to crack. An attentive children will easily spot which numbers the parent presses, or brute force it while the parent is busy somewhere else.
I'm not excusing the parents doing a poor job, but I know that if I were a father myself, I would have a LOT of troubles keeping the restrictions up and actually efficient (and that's coming from a computer guy / programmer).
Yeah, I think it's almost impossible to stop kids from getting where you don't want them as a parent. Even if you never give them a phone, if they go to public school they will use their friends' unlocked phones. I can guarantee not every kid in school has a dumbphone or a locked-down phone.
Almost impossible. Except this system will. And people here are crying about it.
No it won't. This won't be any more effective than the DMCA was at stamping out piracy. Porn sites will get scraped, bundled, and torrented.
If the goal is to reduce the profits that porn makes, it will have some impact. If the goal is to actually block underage exposure? Not a chance in hell it works.
And pretending it will work just turns it into an anti-anonymity arms race until you need a government-controlled camera watching you to open an IP connection and that still won't work.
Making it inconvenient is sometimes enough to at least mitigate most of the damage.
And a lot of places like libraries and universities have their own blocks in place. VPN's cost money. You can restrict data use on phone plans.
And while sure, they might be able to get some limited access from a friend's phone, they're not exactly going to be able to binge-watch through that kind of setup without it being really weird.
Making it "inconvenient" is far from enough though. You could argue the magazines era was pretty inconvenient (had to find someone able to get those, then find someplace to hide them everytime), that didn't stop many kids from trying.
Do you really trust schools and universities to have strong blockers, when you see the state of the modern education system? They generally have the worst IT support possible.
Some VPN are free, which is an even bigger danger, cause they are extremely questionable with terrible security (generally on purpose).
Phones can access WiFi and be used without data plans.
When I see some Redditors willing to travel just to give HRT and stuff to minors, I don't think granting access to porn is that far-fetched, especially when you consider how normalised it has become.
Like how only major porn sites are blocked if at all, while there is nothing stoping kids from looking at pornographic art sites?
Ah yes, blame the parents. That’s worked so well for 30 years…
Yeah first off FUCK nexus. They know what they do. Secondly, not my call, but obscenity remains illegal in this country. And legal measures to prevent children from accessing adult content that is not obscene are allowed.
Of course, it's just the tools are there for parents to do it and I don't enjoy giving both faceless companies and governments permissions to deny me information they may deem inappropriate without ID as we KNOW it'll never be restricted to just porn.
Slippery, thy name is slope
Nexus Mods will hopefully die off
I fucking hate how right CS Lewis was.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” ― C. S. Lewis
Obviously consenting adults don't know any better, but we do, so you must tell us you're a consenting adult, and tell us what you're doing at all times. It's for your own good.
Blame working mothers. They outsource to daycare when married and the state when divorced.
Yup - this was never about children. It's all about requiring forced identification on the internet... no more anonymous posts.
Just like real life practically everywhere.
I don't have to show my ID just to have a conversation in a public place.
I see you like living in totalitarian oppression.
We had a saying in my day, that mocked it - “your papers, comrade?”
Give us all your personal info if you're so nonchalant about having it out there for everyone to see. Why do you have a screen name instead of your legal name, huh?
Nothing would cause a greater uproar among adult redditors, especially the mods, than blocking their access to children.
Youre just a goooner who wants to mod child porn into the Sims.
if they need you to send in an ID to download Project Nevada or whatever then they're retarded.
if they're only going to need you to send in an ID to download Suck'n'Fuck Supreme: Rape Addon for Skyrim i'm completely fine with those people losing their privacy. i only wish i had access to their identities.
Until it is Netflix and Facebook, and the data being sold to 3rd party marketeers, the work isn't done.
Their next step will be "internet ID" issued by the government to access all these sites, your identity and internet history will always be known to them.
People still mostly don't catch on when some sperg goes postal, then the after reports mention "He Googled "How to make a bomb/How do I buy a gun?" after the fact as though everything is just sitting in a log somewhere.
well no shit it's on a log somewhere but at least there's plausible deniability of the individual having been on the device at that time, no such case when you have to use photo ID and have a real time camera.
I don’t care what the cucked commonwealth does.
You White men need to fix this and it’s not bitching on the internet. I can’t repeat it here.
Wait -- there are people who still think you think you have online anonymity now?
Sometimes I joke/muse about going back to Australia to save it, but it's way too late. I was born like 50 years too late to even have a chance to save it.
Whatever, thank God that I left.
Where are you now? Trying to figure out everyone’s location for a massive StarCraft/doom lan party. Maybe Diablo II as well!
I fucking told you
Thats how they get conservatives, women and normals to support things like this.. the "think of the children" angle. Just dangle a dead syrian kid on a beach and suddenly its an okay to bring in millions of rapefugees.
While those pushing it fuck kids.