“This disgusting rhetoric has no place in our community, and we’re grateful that a bystander took action and prevented further escalation by the perpetrator,” Sen. Liz Boldon and Reps. Andy Smith, Kim Hicks and Tina Liebling said in a statement.
What escalation? These fuckers are deranged. The "bystander" was the one who escalated the situation, and came over to provoke, intimidate, and try to ruin via social media. And the perpetrator is the kid who allegedly was stealing.
Some people have said he had kids there (and the accusation wasn't pedophilia, it was rape of a sixteen year old)...and it doesn't really matter anyway. Whether or not he's a pedo or rapist, we can judge him as the aggressor in that interaction regardless of anything else, just from the behavior in the video he himself filmed. He came at and confronted her, and she was backing away.
The other stuff definitely makes it worse (if he doesn't have kids...yeah, sketchy as fuck), but even if he was squeaky clean (he's not), he's still the one being confrontational. He wanted the drama, he wanted to "catch" her, he wanted to ruin her.
I don’t give a flying fuck if it’s technically Hebephilia, Ephebophilia, or any other psychiatric definition of degenerate behavior. It’s rape of children. I call people like that pedophiles.
This guy, and any apologist of him or those seeking to tell me “ackkksuallly, technicalllllly….”can go neck themselves.
It’s rape of children and they should be hanged by the neck until dead.
Now she’s fundraising on this, and that is just abhorrent and totally unacceptable,” he said. “She needs to face legal consequences for all her actions. This is a disgrace.
What did she do that was illegal? It's not illegal to dislike black people.
You forgot it’s a crime to be mean to people trying to steal from you. They want to be like Germany where a woman was jailed for being mean to a migrant who tried to rape her.
/u/Ahaus667 might be confusing the case of "Maja R", unfortunately it's worse than what he said.
A 15 year old girl was gangraped by a combination of 9 men and boys. As a result of the proceedings, one of these men was convicted and given a suspended sentence, despite the judge admitting that none of the defendants showed no regret for the rape. In response, "Maja R", a 20-year-old woman from Hamburg, found this individual on WhatsApp, and sent him messages that called him a “disgraceful rapist pig”, a “disgusting freak”, and also said she hoped he “couldn’t go anywhere without getting kicked in the face” and, “let’s hope you are just locked away”. She was sentence to spend the weekend in jail.
Germany: "Don't call the unrepentant child rapist a pig or it's off to the stalag with you."
That word, yet, gets more and more conspicuous almost daily. It used to not even be a thing. Then it became implied. Now it's just assumed. Soon it won't be necessary.
It's a word. I don't like adults calling children any names or slurs, but we've seen so much worse. This was an altercation between two people. It shouldn't be national news. She certainly shouldn't be under more scrutiny than Karmelo Anthony...you know, that black kid who murdered a white kid and was treated like the victim. And will likely get off.
I don't fucking care. This is well past old at this point. Someone shouldn't be targeted for throwing an insult at someone else. "Nigger" only has as much power as people give it, and it's not magic. It's exhausting.
Also, how ironic - and sad - would it be if Shiloh Hendrix faced more legal ramifications than Karmelo Anthony?
Karmelo Anthony is very unlikely to get off. His case has some of the worst facts I can imagine, so the best even a corrupt system is going to be able to get him is a murder conviction with a low number of years in prison.
As for not calling children slurs, yes, it's always bad. But yes we've seen much worse with zero repercussions. I'm surprised nobody is bringing this video back up. It should be shared because this is a black racist psycho screaming racial epithets at a child for literally no reason on a NYC subway train.
Oh god I hope this push breaks white people and they stop caring about being called racist, stop caring about being call white supremest and all those scary ideas they mentally fought against suddenly become ok to ponder.
Until I got redpilled, I never understood the repulsion to White nationalism. Even when I was a gullible mark, I thought that White nationalism, even if maybe a liitle "gauche" to talk about was like black, Asian, Latin, or any other ethnic nationalism. Even now, I don't begrudge, say, Nigerians or Indians having a country for their own. All I ask is that I have a homeland for myself, where my children can grow up in much the same country I grew up in.
Obviously now I realize why White nationalism, no matter how peacefully advocated for is demonized and vilified.
And once they're done with that, they don't even want you to have an all white household. Heck, they already think white families, especially large ones, are disgusting and sort of perverted; like there's something wrong there.
Even now, I don't begrudge, say, Nigerians or Indians having a country for their own.
Yup, I can respect nationalism, including racial nationalism. I can respect racial pride. You're a Nigerian, and think Nigerians are the best people on Earth? You do you, you're entitled to that opinion. Think Indians are great. Fabulous, good for you.
All I ask is that I have a homeland for myself, where my children can grow up in much the same country I grew up in.
Yup. That's the crux. A bunch of these nonwhite ethnonationalists or racial supremacists want to be here, and feel like they're entitled to be here. They also feel like they get to run who whites do things, and twist our system. Some (speaking of Indians, some of them) even feel like their goal in being here is to turn my country into another India.
My willingness to accept nonwhite racialism stops when they're not merely another team, and are inside my team, fucking shit up. That wasn't the deal, and now you're my enemy. You can like your people, and you should. I'm willing to do the whole Predator hand grab meme...again, up until they show they're actively working against me.
You're allowed to think your people are the best, but as soon as you start trying to dictate to white society how we have to treat you...the respect evaporates, and is replaced by other things.
Act like an enemy, get perceived as and treated like an enemy.
100% how I feel. As much as I don't want my own country of Canada, or my ethnic homelands of the British Isles and Scandinavia to become populated by non-British/Irish and Scandinavian become dominated by Somalians, Hindus or Colombians, I wouldn't want any ethnicity to be strangers in their own heartlands.
I will, however, fight till the end to preserve my own people. I don't care what I have to do, Canada must remain Canadian, because Canadians are a unique, European diasporic ethnicity.
What's the surprise here? Yes, it is very clear that White Nationalists are funding this GoFundMe. Frankly, they probably are the primary donors to this, as the majority of non-political whites will not know anything about it, and the majority of political whites are not interested in supporting it. (Some 40% would oppose her view from a deontological stand point, and the remaining 60% are mostly not going to just give someone money for saying 'nigger' to a child).
It's not like it doesn't make sense. Why wouldn't White Nationalists support it?
I look forward to the day when the majority of American Whites are overt White Nationalists and it just absolutely melts your brain. The salt is going to be delicious.
The definition of White was expanded to include Germans and Irish, the expanded again to include Eastern Europe.
The US has never believed in Pan-European racial solidarity. Not even the 1st & 2nd waves of the Klan believed in it. FFS, the Nazis didn't believe it.
Frankly, they probably are the primary donors to this
The only way this statement holds true is if the amount of White Nationalists in America is a much larger number than anyone thinks and they are all operating independently without a greater structure coordinating them.
Also, it doesn't take a White Nationalist to be aware that "she said the no no word, and people will be after her for that" and want to support that defense. You can just as easily simply think that her being utterly destroyed is overkill for her action.
Unless you've dropped the definition of White Nationalist to "any white who doesn't worship blacks" then your assumption is based on bupkis.
At this point that's where the definition is going, frankly. "Non-racist" just means "deliberately ignoring and/or lying to myself about the glaring discrepancies in IQ test results and crime stats."
I think there are some tens of thousands of White Nationalists (and I'm going to broaden it to actual White Supremacist criminal gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood, Atomwaffen, and the 1%-ers for our purposes here, knowing that they are not part of the typical Alt-Right intellectual discourse)
In any case, these people don't need a central regulatory body (in the same way Black racialists don't need one either, and their numbers are in the many hundreds of thousands). The Karmello Anthony case has been a bugaboo for several weeks now, and they have been actively pushing mis-information (Karmello's family bought a new house and new car, for example), and also spreading explicit disinformation (obvious satire pretending to be pro-black while pushing fully fake information like 'Austin and his brother were gang-stomping Karmello).
So, for the past month or so, tens of thousands of white racialists have been actively riling themselves up over the Karmello story, and have immediately turned around and replicated the same thing on some random woman who said the n-word.
Not to mention, prior to the comments being removed, most of them were about love-bombing the white race, which is not something anyone does outside of this specific group of ideologues.
most of them were about love-bombing the white race, which is not something anyone does outside of this specific group of ideologues.
The fact that you not only think this, but have made it seemingly the crux of your entire thought here, clearly shows your bias working backwards from what you want reality to be.
The internet is filled with people who will absolutely say these things without supporting the very specific ideologies you listed out. They'll part with money just to spell out N I G G E R across 6 donations. This is a space that had all eyes on it and was making a lot of people upset. Its a stage for all sorts of people to say things just for the attention, to cause trouble, to enrage someone, or any other reason that brings them joy. I've participated in /b/tard raids with less national attention to do similar back in the day.
Also, don't think I didn't notice you used three different names (Nationalists, Supremacists, and Racialists) interchangeably to make your fluffing up of their numbers seem more reasonable. However much overlap they may have, they are not one and the same and to treat them as the same simple little monkeys who'd all just throw every penny they have at a random thot who said nigger is incredibly intellectually dishonest.
Heck I'd probably fit into one of those categories and I refuse to support her because I can make a pretty reasonable assumption based on where she lives, her fashion/life style and willingness to say Nigger so directly that she absolutely has burnt coal in her life. Making any support of her for saying it ironic and lolworthy.
The word Socialist in it kinda fucks with the idea of Nazis being super, always right wingers that they need to be in the simplified media narratives. I'm sure that's why it lost popularity.
Heck, I'd bet most of the West wouldn't even connect the dots to Nazis if you said that, and think you were describing a legitimate Far Left political group.
The fact that you not only think this, but have made it seemingly the crux of your entire thought here, clearly shows your bias working backwards from what you want reality to be.
That bias is built on the real world. I personally know people who are racist to black people, who don't love bomb the white race. It's just the mentality of the sweeping majority of all people in the US. Even the sweeping majority of racist whites wouldn't do it.
Also, don't think I didn't notice you used three different names (Nationalists, Supremacists, and Racialists) interchangeably to make your fluffing up of their numbers seem more reasonable. However much overlap they may have, they are not one and the same and to treat them as the same simple little monkeys who'd all just throw every penny they have at a random thot who said nigger is incredibly intellectually dishonest.
I explicitly said I was doing that on purpose because it would inflate the numbers of "White Nationalists" donating to this page because Jared Taylor is not trying to cater to 1%-ers, but both are Racialists of one form or another that will be donating to this page, which is how the original article is using it. I wasn't being dishonest, I was giving you what, why, when, and how.
I personally know people who are racist to black people
And I personally know almost every flavor of anti-black and/or pro-white their is. Its a benefit of growing up in the South, you meet a lot of them because merely existing around blacks creates them.
You know what's a really common trait among most of them? Saying a bunch of shit the more extreme ones say just to piss off the Libs or anyone else that might say it, despite being more milquetoast in their actual beliefs and ideologies. Trolling prissy Yankees and basically guys like you is their ideology, and they know saying shit like that will make you react like this.
They/we get called retarded racists by you/them anyway, why not act the part for the lols?
I wasn't being dishonest, I was giving you what, why, when, and how.
And i pointed out why this was lazy, dishonest, and undermined your entire point. It doesn't matter if you say "I'm gonna make shit up," I'm still gonna say you are making shit up to that. These groups are not the same, they will not all line up to donate to this, and you only had to make up this scenario of a massive all grouped up bloc sincerely posting their ideology on this page to compensate for trying to support that they make up tens of thousands of a population with large amounts of disposable income just for a girl who probably burnt coal anyway.
If you had said they make up a sizable portion of those donating, that'd be believable. But trying to stand on them being the primary donors with most other whites either not knowing or not caring is a foolish assumption.
I'm not trying to conflate these groups, I'm trying to maximize the number of people who would be under the legacy media's definition of a White Nationalist in order to not completely discount the entire movement. Otherwise I'd have to say there are maybe ten thousand White Nationalists in the US, and therefore it's not possible to know where any of these donations are coming from, since we know it's not coming from normies, or even Conservatives.
Most people don't know about the daily political issue of the week. Most whites do not know about this. Of the ones who do, most do not care. Of the ones who care, most will not support her actions. Of the ones who will support her actions, most will not fund. The remainder will fund, and that remainder is toing to be heavily made up of White Nationalists, and the comments reflected that. Hence, yeah, they are the primary source of funding.
I'm trying to maximize the number of people who would be under the legacy media's definition of a White Nationalist
Okay, but you are also using this maximized number to make a point about them somehow being a primary source of donations is where the issue lay. Because while the legacy media might paint them all with the same brush, they themselves do not and a sizable portion will not be participating in this entire thing.
and the comments reflected that
No. I've explained why this is untrue already so you can just refer back to it. But this is a massive assumption based on what you want to things to be and you have worked backwards to every other point based on this assumption.
First, your numbers. Shiloh's campaign has 21k donations. Now, some of those will be dupes, but many will be standalone. You say there are "tens of thousands" of white nationalists or whatever. Tens of thousands of people won't get you tens of thousands of donations, no matter how much they care about the topic.
You often can't even get one percent of people to click on a YouTube video, much less part with their money. Let's be extremely generous and say three percent of white supremacists are donating, and only half the donations are from white supremacists. You'd need around 350,000 white supremacists.
But that's mostly guess work, and not the core point. I just don't think the numbers shake out like you think they do.
The Karmello Anthony case has been a bugaboo for several weeks now, and they have been actively pushing mis-information (Karmello's family bought a new house and new car, for example), and also spreading explicit disinformation (obvious satire pretending to be pro-black while pushing fully fake information like 'Austin and his brother were gang-stomping Karmello).
That's deranged. Blacks were claiming Austin was a bully the day off, and their whole campaign has been about that shit, and about being the victim. Did the evil white people trick the entire Anthony family and their "advocates" into being evil pieces of shit too?
Are some white supremacists, as well as general trolls and troublemakers spreading anti-Karmelo misinformation? Absolutely. Internet's a big place, and there are plenty of shitbags who can't miss a chance to fuck shit up for other people. But the "Black Community" was already pushing the "Austin is a racist and a bully" narrative before his body was even cold.
So, for the past month or so, tens of thousands of white racialists have been actively riling themselves up over the Karmello story, and have immediately turned around and replicated the same thing on some random woman who said the n-word.
I mean, did some people get upset about how black people were behaving, and especially the shit behavior of the Karmelo's people? Yeah. For good reason. You still haven't proven that these tens of thousands of people are white racialists/nationalists/supremacists whatever. Some, sure. But plenty of people just think the whole thing is massively fucked up.
...love-bombing the white race, which is not something anyone does outside of this specific group of ideologues.
Yeah, I got nothing, and don't feel like running around in circles on this with you again. I'll just say, you've said so many sweeping generalizations about whites who like whites that the whole thing is useless. You can like whites without being a socialist. You can like whites without being a leftist. You can like whites without being a white nationalist or supremacist. And so on.
I like whites. I don't consider myself any of those things.
Tens of thousands means "19,999 < X < 100,000" when I'm using it. It's a wide range, but I'm including the possibility of error, and the fact that I'm adding actual White Supremacist gangs whom might be also donating to the campaign. The Aryan Brotherhood is one of the largest prison gangs in America, so their numbers are actually quite significant.
You, of all people, should be aware of how 'racial solidarity' works. It doesn't work differently between racialist whites and racialist blacks. "If mine then support". Congratulations, this woman is now considered "mine" by white racialists generally. Okay, well, then they have a racial obligation to support her in their minds. It's not ever going to be like-share-and-subscribe numbers because fans of YouTube channels don't have a metaphysical racial obligation in their head to like-share-and-subscribe.
I'm not arguing about the family spreading misinformation because it doesn't matter to my point. My point is that White Racialists have been obsessing over the Karmello murder for over a month, so their target audience has already been prepped, and their influence efforts are already active. There's no reason not to expect the majority of their audience to rally around this incident when called upon.
You can like white people without being a Socialist, but that's why love-bombing them is obviously the calling card of the White Racialists. "White people are pretty cool" is not the same as calling for racial solidarity, because Whites are the best of America and the founders of all civilization. Again, the same thing happens with Black Racialists. If I hear someone say, "Black people are awesome", that's one thing. If I hear them say, "Melanin is what gives our race love and power", then I know they're an idealogue.
Tens of thousands means "19,999 < X < 100,000" when I'm using it. It's a wide range...
And I'm saying, although it's guesswork, that you might need more than three times your high end to make the numbers work.
You, of all people, should be aware of how 'racial solidarity' works.
I don't know what you mean.
It's not ever going to be like-share-and-subscribe numbers because fans of YouTube channels don't have a metaphysical racial obligation in their head to like-share-and-subscribe.
The YT thing was an example. Point is, people don't put their money where their mouth is, in massive percentage anyway, generally. If you have ten thousand white supremacists, or any other group, I doubt you're going to find more than a thousand actually opening up their wallets. Could be wrong, but it's certainly not going to be near all ten thousand.
A bunch of people will talk big, and throw their verbal support behind the Current Thing, but most won't donate.
I'm not arguing about the family spreading misinformation because it doesn't matter to my point. My point is that White Racialists have been obsessing over the Karmello murder for over a month...
I'm saying you're accusing phantom whites of spreading and producing misinformation that we have non-phantom black people, including the family, spreading and producing, in plain sight. You're seeing a vast conspiracy of white people, but haven't provided any evidence for those claims, and are just presenting it as a given.
There's no reason not to expect the majority of their audience to rally around this incident when called upon.
A few things. I still think you're being to broad with the whole "white X" thing, but that's beside the point. For the sake of argument, let's leave it. I'm still saying the vast majority won't go that extra step to donate. They'll rally verbally, as mentioned, but even then you'll be missing quite a few people. Just how it works.
You can like white people without being a Socialist, but that's why love-bombing them is obviously the calling card of the White Racialists. "White people are pretty cool" is not the same as calling for racial solidarity, because Whites are the best of America and the founders of all civilization. Again, the same thing happens with Black Racialists. If I hear someone say, "Black people are awesome", that's one thing. If I hear them say, "Melanin is what gives our race love and power", then I know they're an idealogue.
You could have picked better examples to equate than whites thinking they're good in aggregate at civilization, and blacks thinking melanin is fucking magic.
You are dead wrong about collectivists not wanting to act collectively. White Racialists will act collectively, because they are collectivists, and that is how collectivism works. It would be no different from Leftists, or Islamists, or Royalists (given a kings order), or any other anti-Individualist movement.
They're not phantom-whites. When you have Twitter accounts named shit like "Prof. Deys Raysis" or other such nonsense accelerating the spread of disinformation and misinformation, I know precisely who and what I'm looking at. Just because they think blacks are stupid and will buy it, doesn't mean I have to.
No, whites thinking they literally the founders of all civilizations (when we know civilizations were invented earlier in other eras and other continents independent of europeans) is the same level of magical thinking as Yakub nonsense. White people did not invent the Yamato. White people did not invent Sumeria. White people did not invent the Maya.
You are dead wrong about collectivists not wanting to act collectively.
I would be dead wrong, if that was a thing I'd said or implied.
The act of donating is still an individual choice. It doesn't matter greatly how "collectivist" a group of people are, the "clickthrough rate" of turning those attitudes into action is still going to be - relatively - low. You also said it's largely nebulous and leaderless, so you don't even have one guy saying 'go donate.' But even if you did have a leader, you're still not going to get anywhere near everyone to actually commit their wallet. And it's not even selfishness or hypocrisy. It's closer to laziness; it's an extra step, an action. Collectivist or not, a lot of people won't take that step.
They're not phantom-whites. When you have Twitter accounts named shit like "Prof. Deys Raysis" or other such nonsense accelerating the spread of disinformation and misinformation, I know precisely who and what I'm looking at.
Yeah, but you'd already made up your mind, and are treating retards on Twitter as some white racialist conspiracy. You accused them of producing it. I've seen zero evidence of that. You have to take into account...a bunch of these people are just as dumb as they think black people are. Just like blacks have been gobbling up obvious misinformation, whites have as well. You still haven't proved your conspiracy, just that edgy retards on Twitter might not be doing great informational analysis.
No, whites thinking they literally the founders of all civilizations (when we know civilizations were invented earlier in other eras and other continents independent of europeans) is the same level of magical thinking as Yakub nonsense. White people did not invent the Yamato. White people did not invent Sumeria. White people did not invent the Maya.
I've never heard whites take credit for any of that, though. Blacks think they're the samurai, and Egyptians, and so on.
What escalation? These fuckers are deranged. The "bystander" was the one who escalated the situation, and came over to provoke, intimidate, and try to ruin via social media. And the perpetrator is the kid who allegedly was stealing.
Yes it's clear she's walking away from him, and he continues to badger her. It's pure gaslighting but sadly it will probably work
The bystander is a fucking pedo alone recording video at a playground
Some people have said he had kids there (and the accusation wasn't pedophilia, it was rape of a sixteen year old)...and it doesn't really matter anyway. Whether or not he's a pedo or rapist, we can judge him as the aggressor in that interaction regardless of anything else, just from the behavior in the video he himself filmed. He came at and confronted her, and she was backing away.
The other stuff definitely makes it worse (if he doesn't have kids...yeah, sketchy as fuck), but even if he was squeaky clean (he's not), he's still the one being confrontational. He wanted the drama, he wanted to "catch" her, he wanted to ruin her.
I don’t give a flying fuck if it’s technically Hebephilia, Ephebophilia, or any other psychiatric definition of degenerate behavior. It’s rape of children. I call people like that pedophiles.
This guy, and any apologist of him or those seeking to tell me “ackkksuallly, technicalllllly….”can go neck themselves.
It’s rape of children and they should be hanged by the neck until dead.
What did she do that was illegal? It's not illegal to dislike black people.
You forgot it’s a crime to be mean to people trying to steal from you. They want to be like Germany where a woman was jailed for being mean to a migrant who tried to rape her.
I hadn't heard of that German case. That's horrible
/u/Ahaus667 might be confusing the case of "Maja R", unfortunately it's worse than what he said.
A 15 year old girl was gangraped by a combination of 9 men and boys. As a result of the proceedings, one of these men was convicted and given a suspended sentence, despite the judge admitting that none of the defendants showed no regret for the rape. In response, "Maja R", a 20-year-old woman from Hamburg, found this individual on WhatsApp, and sent him messages that called him a “disgraceful rapist pig”, a “disgusting freak”, and also said she hoped he “couldn’t go anywhere without getting kicked in the face” and, “let’s hope you are just locked away”. She was sentence to spend the weekend in jail.
Germany: "Don't call the unrepentant child rapist a pig or it's off to the stalag with you."
Entire Rap industry on suicide watch if this retardness pushes forward and actually sets a precedence of specific illegal words.
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Obviously, it won't be applied to niggers.
YET.
That word, yet, gets more and more conspicuous almost daily. It used to not even be a thing. Then it became implied. Now it's just assumed. Soon it won't be necessary.
Your usual "Black" versus "white" framing, too.
I'm so tired of all this bullshit.
It's a word. I don't like adults calling children any names or slurs, but we've seen so much worse. This was an altercation between two people. It shouldn't be national news. She certainly shouldn't be under more scrutiny than Karmelo Anthony...you know, that black kid who murdered a white kid and was treated like the victim. And will likely get off.
I don't fucking care. This is well past old at this point. Someone shouldn't be targeted for throwing an insult at someone else. "Nigger" only has as much power as people give it, and it's not magic. It's exhausting.
Also, how ironic - and sad - would it be if Shiloh Hendrix faced more legal ramifications than Karmelo Anthony?
It’s cool. I don’t think I can hate blacks any harder, but every day surprises me.
Karmelo Anthony is very unlikely to get off. His case has some of the worst facts I can imagine, so the best even a corrupt system is going to be able to get him is a murder conviction with a low number of years in prison.
As for not calling children slurs, yes, it's always bad. But yes we've seen much worse with zero repercussions. I'm surprised nobody is bringing this video back up. It should be shared because this is a black racist psycho screaming racial epithets at a child for literally no reason on a NYC subway train.
I hope you're right, but we all know the facts don't matter. The only thing that will matter is who gets to be on the jury.
Racism is back on the menu... for whites. And that terrifies them.
Oh god I hope this push breaks white people and they stop caring about being called racist, stop caring about being call white supremest and all those scary ideas they mentally fought against suddenly become ok to ponder.
Fuck niggers and fuck ivory tower whites that support zog over their own.
Until I got redpilled, I never understood the repulsion to White nationalism. Even when I was a gullible mark, I thought that White nationalism, even if maybe a liitle "gauche" to talk about was like black, Asian, Latin, or any other ethnic nationalism. Even now, I don't begrudge, say, Nigerians or Indians having a country for their own. All I ask is that I have a homeland for myself, where my children can grow up in much the same country I grew up in.
Obviously now I realize why White nationalism, no matter how peacefully advocated for is demonized and vilified.
They don't want you to have a White Cul de Sac.
Correct.
And once they're done with that, they don't even want you to have an all white household. Heck, they already think white families, especially large ones, are disgusting and sort of perverted; like there's something wrong there.
Yup, I can respect nationalism, including racial nationalism. I can respect racial pride. You're a Nigerian, and think Nigerians are the best people on Earth? You do you, you're entitled to that opinion. Think Indians are great. Fabulous, good for you.
Yup. That's the crux. A bunch of these nonwhite ethnonationalists or racial supremacists want to be here, and feel like they're entitled to be here. They also feel like they get to run who whites do things, and twist our system. Some (speaking of Indians, some of them) even feel like their goal in being here is to turn my country into another India.
My willingness to accept nonwhite racialism stops when they're not merely another team, and are inside my team, fucking shit up. That wasn't the deal, and now you're my enemy. You can like your people, and you should. I'm willing to do the whole Predator hand grab meme...again, up until they show they're actively working against me.
You're allowed to think your people are the best, but as soon as you start trying to dictate to white society how we have to treat you...the respect evaporates, and is replaced by other things.
Act like an enemy, get perceived as and treated like an enemy.
100% how I feel. As much as I don't want my own country of Canada, or my ethnic homelands of the British Isles and Scandinavia to become populated by non-British/Irish and Scandinavian become dominated by Somalians, Hindus or Colombians, I wouldn't want any ethnicity to be strangers in their own heartlands.
I will, however, fight till the end to preserve my own people. I don't care what I have to do, Canada must remain Canadian, because Canadians are a unique, European diasporic ethnicity.
Yet more moral scolding from people who have absolutely no shame, no credibility, and hopefully soon, no jobs.
You really do not hate the media enough.
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Do not call for extra-judicial killings
Sir I was very clearly referencing Minecraft.
In seriousness that's my honest opinion that the world would be a better place without these vermin. I don't care how it happens.
The only one doing ''escalation'' was the Somali invader harassing the woman who dared to insult the thief stealing her child's stuff.
ok now do the karmelo supporters
This article is biased as fuck. The little faggot that wrote looks like your typical soyboi.
These articles only make white nationalism sound better as an alternative to constant harassment by feral nigs.
What's the surprise here? Yes, it is very clear that White Nationalists are funding this GoFundMe. Frankly, they probably are the primary donors to this, as the majority of non-political whites will not know anything about it, and the majority of political whites are not interested in supporting it. (Some 40% would oppose her view from a deontological stand point, and the remaining 60% are mostly not going to just give someone money for saying 'nigger' to a child).
It's not like it doesn't make sense. Why wouldn't White Nationalists support it?
I look forward to the day when the majority of American Whites are overt White Nationalists and it just absolutely melts your brain. The salt is going to be delicious.
I hope you realize that has literally never happened.
Knock it off with the gaslighting Giz.
The definition of White was expanded to include Germans and Irish, the expanded again to include Eastern Europe.
The US has never believed in Pan-European racial solidarity. Not even the 1st & 2nd waves of the Klan believed in it. FFS, the Nazis didn't believe it.
The only way this statement holds true is if the amount of White Nationalists in America is a much larger number than anyone thinks and they are all operating independently without a greater structure coordinating them.
Also, it doesn't take a White Nationalist to be aware that "she said the no no word, and people will be after her for that" and want to support that defense. You can just as easily simply think that her being utterly destroyed is overkill for her action.
Unless you've dropped the definition of White Nationalist to "any white who doesn't worship blacks" then your assumption is based on bupkis.
It's not about blacks, but any white people having positive opinions about white people makes him...rather uncomfortable.
At this point that's where the definition is going, frankly. "Non-racist" just means "deliberately ignoring and/or lying to myself about the glaring discrepancies in IQ test results and crime stats."
I think there are some tens of thousands of White Nationalists (and I'm going to broaden it to actual White Supremacist criminal gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood, Atomwaffen, and the 1%-ers for our purposes here, knowing that they are not part of the typical Alt-Right intellectual discourse)
In any case, these people don't need a central regulatory body (in the same way Black racialists don't need one either, and their numbers are in the many hundreds of thousands). The Karmello Anthony case has been a bugaboo for several weeks now, and they have been actively pushing mis-information (Karmello's family bought a new house and new car, for example), and also spreading explicit disinformation (obvious satire pretending to be pro-black while pushing fully fake information like 'Austin and his brother were gang-stomping Karmello).
So, for the past month or so, tens of thousands of white racialists have been actively riling themselves up over the Karmello story, and have immediately turned around and replicated the same thing on some random woman who said the n-word.
Not to mention, prior to the comments being removed, most of them were about love-bombing the white race, which is not something anyone does outside of this specific group of ideologues.
The fact that you not only think this, but have made it seemingly the crux of your entire thought here, clearly shows your bias working backwards from what you want reality to be.
The internet is filled with people who will absolutely say these things without supporting the very specific ideologies you listed out. They'll part with money just to spell out N I G G E R across 6 donations. This is a space that had all eyes on it and was making a lot of people upset. Its a stage for all sorts of people to say things just for the attention, to cause trouble, to enrage someone, or any other reason that brings them joy. I've participated in /b/tard raids with less national attention to do similar back in the day.
Also, don't think I didn't notice you used three different names (Nationalists, Supremacists, and Racialists) interchangeably to make your fluffing up of their numbers seem more reasonable. However much overlap they may have, they are not one and the same and to treat them as the same simple little monkeys who'd all just throw every penny they have at a random thot who said nigger is incredibly intellectually dishonest.
Heck I'd probably fit into one of those categories and I refuse to support her because I can make a pretty reasonable assumption based on where she lives, her fashion/life style and willingness to say Nigger so directly that she absolutely has burnt coal in her life. Making any support of her for saying it ironic and lolworthy.
No, if you ever like white people, at all, for any reason, you're clearly a Leftist Socialist Race Communist.
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Whatever happened to National Socialist? Or does that particular magic spell lack potency after decades of misuse?
The word Socialist in it kinda fucks with the idea of Nazis being super, always right wingers that they need to be in the simplified media narratives. I'm sure that's why it lost popularity.
Heck, I'd bet most of the West wouldn't even connect the dots to Nazis if you said that, and think you were describing a legitimate Far Left political group.
Yup, must have.
That bias is built on the real world. I personally know people who are racist to black people, who don't love bomb the white race. It's just the mentality of the sweeping majority of all people in the US. Even the sweeping majority of racist whites wouldn't do it.
I explicitly said I was doing that on purpose because it would inflate the numbers of "White Nationalists" donating to this page because Jared Taylor is not trying to cater to 1%-ers, but both are Racialists of one form or another that will be donating to this page, which is how the original article is using it. I wasn't being dishonest, I was giving you what, why, when, and how.
And I personally know almost every flavor of anti-black and/or pro-white their is. Its a benefit of growing up in the South, you meet a lot of them because merely existing around blacks creates them.
You know what's a really common trait among most of them? Saying a bunch of shit the more extreme ones say just to piss off the Libs or anyone else that might say it, despite being more milquetoast in their actual beliefs and ideologies. Trolling prissy Yankees and basically guys like you is their ideology, and they know saying shit like that will make you react like this.
They/we get called retarded racists by you/them anyway, why not act the part for the lols?
And i pointed out why this was lazy, dishonest, and undermined your entire point. It doesn't matter if you say "I'm gonna make shit up," I'm still gonna say you are making shit up to that. These groups are not the same, they will not all line up to donate to this, and you only had to make up this scenario of a massive all grouped up bloc sincerely posting their ideology on this page to compensate for trying to support that they make up tens of thousands of a population with large amounts of disposable income just for a girl who probably burnt coal anyway.
If you had said they make up a sizable portion of those donating, that'd be believable. But trying to stand on them being the primary donors with most other whites either not knowing or not caring is a foolish assumption.
I'm not trying to conflate these groups, I'm trying to maximize the number of people who would be under the legacy media's definition of a White Nationalist in order to not completely discount the entire movement. Otherwise I'd have to say there are maybe ten thousand White Nationalists in the US, and therefore it's not possible to know where any of these donations are coming from, since we know it's not coming from normies, or even Conservatives.
Most people don't know about the daily political issue of the week. Most whites do not know about this. Of the ones who do, most do not care. Of the ones who care, most will not support her actions. Of the ones who will support her actions, most will not fund. The remainder will fund, and that remainder is toing to be heavily made up of White Nationalists, and the comments reflected that. Hence, yeah, they are the primary source of funding.
Okay, but you are also using this maximized number to make a point about them somehow being a primary source of donations is where the issue lay. Because while the legacy media might paint them all with the same brush, they themselves do not and a sizable portion will not be participating in this entire thing.
No. I've explained why this is untrue already so you can just refer back to it. But this is a massive assumption based on what you want to things to be and you have worked backwards to every other point based on this assumption.
This is a bad take.
First, your numbers. Shiloh's campaign has 21k donations. Now, some of those will be dupes, but many will be standalone. You say there are "tens of thousands" of white nationalists or whatever. Tens of thousands of people won't get you tens of thousands of donations, no matter how much they care about the topic.
You often can't even get one percent of people to click on a YouTube video, much less part with their money. Let's be extremely generous and say three percent of white supremacists are donating, and only half the donations are from white supremacists. You'd need around 350,000 white supremacists.
But that's mostly guess work, and not the core point. I just don't think the numbers shake out like you think they do.
That's deranged. Blacks were claiming Austin was a bully the day off, and their whole campaign has been about that shit, and about being the victim. Did the evil white people trick the entire Anthony family and their "advocates" into being evil pieces of shit too?
Are some white supremacists, as well as general trolls and troublemakers spreading anti-Karmelo misinformation? Absolutely. Internet's a big place, and there are plenty of shitbags who can't miss a chance to fuck shit up for other people. But the "Black Community" was already pushing the "Austin is a racist and a bully" narrative before his body was even cold.
I mean, did some people get upset about how black people were behaving, and especially the shit behavior of the Karmelo's people? Yeah. For good reason. You still haven't proven that these tens of thousands of people are white racialists/nationalists/supremacists whatever. Some, sure. But plenty of people just think the whole thing is massively fucked up.
Yeah, I got nothing, and don't feel like running around in circles on this with you again. I'll just say, you've said so many sweeping generalizations about whites who like whites that the whole thing is useless. You can like whites without being a socialist. You can like whites without being a leftist. You can like whites without being a white nationalist or supremacist. And so on.
I like whites. I don't consider myself any of those things.
Tens of thousands means "19,999 < X < 100,000" when I'm using it. It's a wide range, but I'm including the possibility of error, and the fact that I'm adding actual White Supremacist gangs whom might be also donating to the campaign. The Aryan Brotherhood is one of the largest prison gangs in America, so their numbers are actually quite significant.
You, of all people, should be aware of how 'racial solidarity' works. It doesn't work differently between racialist whites and racialist blacks. "If mine then support". Congratulations, this woman is now considered "mine" by white racialists generally. Okay, well, then they have a racial obligation to support her in their minds. It's not ever going to be like-share-and-subscribe numbers because fans of YouTube channels don't have a metaphysical racial obligation in their head to like-share-and-subscribe.
I'm not arguing about the family spreading misinformation because it doesn't matter to my point. My point is that White Racialists have been obsessing over the Karmello murder for over a month, so their target audience has already been prepped, and their influence efforts are already active. There's no reason not to expect the majority of their audience to rally around this incident when called upon.
You can like white people without being a Socialist, but that's why love-bombing them is obviously the calling card of the White Racialists. "White people are pretty cool" is not the same as calling for racial solidarity, because Whites are the best of America and the founders of all civilization. Again, the same thing happens with Black Racialists. If I hear someone say, "Black people are awesome", that's one thing. If I hear them say, "Melanin is what gives our race love and power", then I know they're an idealogue.
And I'm saying, although it's guesswork, that you might need more than three times your high end to make the numbers work.
I don't know what you mean.
The YT thing was an example. Point is, people don't put their money where their mouth is, in massive percentage anyway, generally. If you have ten thousand white supremacists, or any other group, I doubt you're going to find more than a thousand actually opening up their wallets. Could be wrong, but it's certainly not going to be near all ten thousand.
A bunch of people will talk big, and throw their verbal support behind the Current Thing, but most won't donate.
I'm saying you're accusing phantom whites of spreading and producing misinformation that we have non-phantom black people, including the family, spreading and producing, in plain sight. You're seeing a vast conspiracy of white people, but haven't provided any evidence for those claims, and are just presenting it as a given.
A few things. I still think you're being to broad with the whole "white X" thing, but that's beside the point. For the sake of argument, let's leave it. I'm still saying the vast majority won't go that extra step to donate. They'll rally verbally, as mentioned, but even then you'll be missing quite a few people. Just how it works.
You could have picked better examples to equate than whites thinking they're good in aggregate at civilization, and blacks thinking melanin is fucking magic.
You are dead wrong about collectivists not wanting to act collectively. White Racialists will act collectively, because they are collectivists, and that is how collectivism works. It would be no different from Leftists, or Islamists, or Royalists (given a kings order), or any other anti-Individualist movement.
They're not phantom-whites. When you have Twitter accounts named shit like "Prof. Deys Raysis" or other such nonsense accelerating the spread of disinformation and misinformation, I know precisely who and what I'm looking at. Just because they think blacks are stupid and will buy it, doesn't mean I have to.
No, whites thinking they literally the founders of all civilizations (when we know civilizations were invented earlier in other eras and other continents independent of europeans) is the same level of magical thinking as Yakub nonsense. White people did not invent the Yamato. White people did not invent Sumeria. White people did not invent the Maya.
I would be dead wrong, if that was a thing I'd said or implied.
The act of donating is still an individual choice. It doesn't matter greatly how "collectivist" a group of people are, the "clickthrough rate" of turning those attitudes into action is still going to be - relatively - low. You also said it's largely nebulous and leaderless, so you don't even have one guy saying 'go donate.' But even if you did have a leader, you're still not going to get anywhere near everyone to actually commit their wallet. And it's not even selfishness or hypocrisy. It's closer to laziness; it's an extra step, an action. Collectivist or not, a lot of people won't take that step.
Yeah, but you'd already made up your mind, and are treating retards on Twitter as some white racialist conspiracy. You accused them of producing it. I've seen zero evidence of that. You have to take into account...a bunch of these people are just as dumb as they think black people are. Just like blacks have been gobbling up obvious misinformation, whites have as well. You still haven't proved your conspiracy, just that edgy retards on Twitter might not be doing great informational analysis.
I've never heard whites take credit for any of that, though. Blacks think they're the samurai, and Egyptians, and so on.
(((projection)))
We'll know soon enough when all the donors identities are leaked and published by Anonymous.
Hmm common sense and white supremacy go hand in hand nowadays…???