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the crying about Frieren is hilarious (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 1 year ago by Telia 1 year ago by Telia +108 / -0
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– Norenia 44 points 1 year ago +44 / -0

The people that cry out about "media literacy" can't distinguish fiction from reality?

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– RondoOBlongo 30 points 1 year ago +30 / -0

"Media literacy" is just them interpreting art through marxist lenses. It's a trick to feign authority: they first interpret works from prog authors, they explain the symbols and narratives. Once they garnered enough credibility to the public, they interpret works from other philosophical currents in the same way, this time they purposely misinterpret the symbols and devices.

That's why they say everything is political, that's why they say everything has always been woke and everything has always been problematic at the same time.

Frieren confuses them because it's about the existence of evil, they can't spin it as muh right wingers because it's about actions, not ideology, and they feel identified

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– yeldarb1983 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

their loss, been reading it most of the day since somebody brought it up, legitimately good story.

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– ghostfox1_ 25 points 1 year ago +25 / -0

Because they constantly live in a world that has no rules besides what npc programming they get, and so reality is completely fluid for them. They're generally not even self aware to acknowledge it either.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

fiction is reality to them.

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– LastRights 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Moral finger wagging requires absolutely zero effort but does give you immediate 'social standing' and 'self-importance'.

"I'm doing this for the greater good! You're not a racist, are you?"

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– GamingTheSystem-01 36 points 1 year ago +36 / -0

Most lefties just have part of their brain wired up backwards. The heat graph shows it.

What's happening here is they like the demons because they're evil. The lower parts of their brain (that are wired backwards from normal) give them this signal, then their higher brain confabulates a reason as to why that should be true. It's all just gish gallop. They like demons because demons are evil and they want to be evil.

The new guy comic is another great example - the author self insert is a complete piece of shit and they don't even realize it. They will willingly align with evil when given the chance and only avoid it to disguise themselves.

They just say the words that they think will get the result. They are the demons from frieren.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

It's also why leftists cannot write villains that we can hate well. I've yet to see them do it correctly, more often than not I root for the bad guys.

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– Kienan 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

It really is absurd and depressing. Leftists are broken.

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– Adamrises 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

What's happening here is they like the demons because they're evil.

To be honest, most people go through a phase where they like the villains/evil characters way too much. Its more evidence of the "Leftists/Women are still stuck as teenagers" idea, because that's when most of us go through it.

And sometimes its hard to blame them because the bad guys are way cooler and more interesting in a lot of series.

The problem with Lefties is they can't admit X thing is awesome while also saying they are bad and disagreeing with their point of view. Those two things must be synchronized. Its why they cannot fathom Righties liking things that parody them.

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– Kalamander85 32 points 1 year ago +32 / -0

I mean, it IS ok to have that as a story premise. Because it's a story. No one is getting hurt. No real people are being targeted to be wiped out. It's not us associating fictional races with real life ones.

In other words...fuck off, cunt.

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– ApexVeritas 27 points 1 year ago +27 / -0

I'm okay with the premise in real life, because it's actually happening, in real life. No need to jump through hoops for crazy people, idiots, or liars, that this is okay only because it's fiction. Stop placating and compromising. These people deserve none of it.

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– GoofTroop186 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I was gonna argue, but ironically or not it is literally happening in real life. You can’t argue otherwise at this point when it’s literally on twitter

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– ApathySK 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Wrongthink is an abomination to these people.

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– current_horror 28 points 1 year ago +28 / -0

Leftists are mad about Frieren’s treatment of demons for the same reason that right wingers love it: we recognize that demons in Frieren are highly analogous to real life leftists. Using human language purely as transactional passwords to get what you want? Weaponizing human empathy to deceive and ultimately destroy humans? Leftists feel personally attacked by these ideas precisely because they resemble the behaviors of real world leftists.

The only people who are lost in all of this are the denialists who claim that Frieren’s demons bear no resemblance to real world leftists. There are several such people in these comments. You dissemble with the assertions that it’s “just fiction” and “isn’t connected to reality”. You should be asking yourself why leftists self identify with the demons in almost every media.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 21 points 1 year ago +21 / -0

Frieren being chill and based will always be funny to me. Only in anime could you have a character like that. No other medium comes close.

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– RondoOBlongo 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

>makes a story about the embodiment of evil using manipulation to kill humans

>why do you hate minorities

Wait what?

That's also why they don't get Tolkien, it's not meant to represent a group of people, it's an abstraction of why those actions are evil. Those people have never been exposed to real evil (an unrepentant killer, for example) or they themselves are sociopaths

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– botzwanapunani 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Normal people read LOTR and gets lost in a world of fantasy adventure and thrilling tales written by Tolkien, "oh no the people at Minas Tirith is being sieged by Sauron's orc army! the dark lord's forces of evil!"

Lefties reads LOTR and remains lost in their politics and see everything as an allegory to their warped worldview, "oh no the people at Minas Tirith is being seiged by Sauron's orc army! NEGROES!

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– FuckYourBullshit 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

Because (fictional rules the author made up to justify it)

Yes, that's how that works. That's how it has always worked in fiction, you can just make up all the rules. It's why you can have stories where women are strong and competent fighters and leaders or minorities are honorable and just, rather than reflect reality to show how poorly this idea has gone for the last 6000 years.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

these people make the same mistake that you make. they assume the demons are a race.

demons are not a race in this world, they are monsters.

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– Telia [S] 25 points 1 year ago +25 / -0

They think Frieren is racist that's why they hate it.

I think Frieren is racist that's why I like it.

We're not the same.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

can one be racist against polar bears? against sharks?

hating demons in Frieren's world is not racism, it's basic survival instinct.

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– Telia [S] 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

Well leftists have unironically used the "muh racism" argument when defending pitbulls and trying to say that pitbulls are the same as any other dog.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

My understanding of that argument is that pitbull are generally owned by black people, and that it's racism against their owners.

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– Telia [S] 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

no the argument is that pitbulls don't have a violent nature any more than any other dog and if you think that they are inherently more violent than other dogs , you are racist .

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
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– Kienan 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

I think Frieren is racist that's why I like it.

I liked Frieren before the demons were even introduced. It's a damn good anime.

The "racism" is merely the cherry on top.

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– SendTomBoys 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Can't help but notice they don't say this shit about literally any other series.

JJK features an entire race of spiritual entities that are LITERALLY evil energy incarnate. They kill, lie, steal, and rape to their hearts content, and are therefore killed with prejudice by Human Sorcerers.

But no retard leftoid diatribe about evil race politics. Is it because they're too stupid to understand the subtext? Do they need a series to do like Frieren, and spell it out with no misgivings?

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

If you're looking for a serious answer it's because the JJK demons are spawned from negative human emotions, so they're not really a "race" so much as a natural consequence of human behavior. You can kill them but they'll just respawn in a hundred years or whatever.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I heard some murmurs about the goblins in Goblin Slayer, but since leftists were comparing goblins to blacks it died down relatively quickly.

Leftists take the demon allegory in Frieren personally, because the demons' sociopathic usage of language as passwords and emotional magic spells describes them a little too well.

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– botzwanapunani 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Simple really Frieren is currently popular with the anime/manga fans and have materials they perceived is pandering to people they dont like. Thus like locust they swarm and grift the IP to be used as another platform to virtue signal.

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– Adamrises 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Its because Frieren brings it up a lot and talks about it directly to their face. The evil things aren't just there, it actually acknowledges they are irredeemably evil and regularly mocks people for saying "they are just misunderstood" or "they can be civilized" with brutal horrific deaths.

The Lefties can feel how directed it is at their beliefs and reject it for that reason, whereas most "evil creatures" are often vague enough for plausible deniability.

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– ActiveLurker 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

They are going to cry and piss themselves during the Macht arc and I can't wait to see it.

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– AgnosticTemplar 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Total demon death! Holy war now!

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– MLGS 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Leftists can read about a setting where a race of creatures from the darkest jungles are completely dedicated to death and destruction and say "wow, why are they writing about black people like that?" and they're not joking.

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– WhitePhoenix 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

14 year old kids should not be allowed on the Internet.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

It will become popular when they have a disease or think there's a majority to defeat the right.

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– deleted 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0
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– SuurSuomi39_II 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

This fascism thing is so bad and evil, it's literally when your race isn't genocided, you aren't flooded with male only immigrants from a 70 IQ goat fucker region, and you and your people are allowed to have a national identity, instead of racial, cultural and religion based tensions that are daily in a melting pot.

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– realsolidsnakeoil 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

That show has been on my hard drive of some time but can't work up the enthusiasm to watch it. Like the dozen or so others I haven't watched yet.

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– 5Cats 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You are missing out, it's amazing in every way. The #1 show on MAL by a long way & it deserves it.
Out on Netflix soon too! Spreading the goodness to the masses.

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– Telia [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Fuck Netflix though, they are going to fuck it up

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– 5Cats 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Unless they edit or censor it? Which seems unlikely? Not even they can mess up the Anime of the Decade. 🙂

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– Adamrises 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Frieren is refreshing in how it just outright says "no, demons are evil and that isn't going to ever change" but it also belabors the point so long it almost makes it difficult to take seriously.

The entire El Dorado arc is just them saying that over and over and over and over, and it takes up like 1/3rd of the series currently. It keeps teasing that "ooo it might not be true!" and then it is again, every time.

That's a personal gripe not a political one, because clearly it being said that many times triggers people who need to be told it that many times +1.

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– 5Cats 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

How is this "fascism"? Don't these leftists speak English any longer?

Group X (doesn't matter who) wants to destroy you, enslave you and literally eat you (as in, you are food) and you refuse to let them. They will never stop, surrender or compromise, so you either kill them or they will kill you.
This is "fascism"? It's call Survival Of The Fittest.

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
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