What the fuck do our ancestors have to do with anything?
Eating municipal wildlife and others' pets is against the law. Today. Walking into the country without proper documents is against the law. Today. I don't have a time machine to go hold my ancestors responsible for their transgressions, faggot, but even if I did, how does that absolve what's happening right now?
I mean, my direct ancestors dealt with uppity Yankee fuckwits by shooting them in broad daylight. Or making them a meal for the local gator population. If this guy wants to revert to ancestors... well...
The right answer is: What about Haiti or Africa or any other place in the world at that time? If things were in America or Europe or Britain at that time as bad as you describe them, how was everything going anywhere else?
And in America. Look at the census records, everyone descended primarily from indigenous Europeans is lumped together as White instead counting Celtic, Slavic, or Mediterranean people seperately.
Y'know, if people like you would just acknowledge when individual Jews are fucking racists and that there are a lot of fucking racist individual Jews without requiring every Jew to be a fucking racist, instead of sperging about everyone else noticing how many fucking racist Jews there are, maybe when this all comes to a head the fallout will mostly be limited to the fucking racist Jews instead of all of them.
if people like you would just acknowledge when individual Jews are fucking racists and that there are a lot of fucking racist individual Jews without requiring every Jew to be a fucking racist
A lot of Jews are idiots. It goes further than just hating white people. But the same is true for both our groups.
Yeah. Irish, Jews, and Italians were poor. Hattians are retarded savages with a culture that doesn't even understand a lot of concepts inherent in basic civilization. #NotAll, of course, and all that.
Also...bottom line, they're not Americans, and we're shipping them over now. So we should stop. It's not even about how good or bad they are compared to past immigrants...we're full, fuck off.
I will also say that the Irish Immigrants actually volunteered (er, mostly volunteered) to fight in America's armies. I get the feeling that the Haitians aren't real interested in joining to save Ukraine at the moment.
The Haitians can't volunteer actually. They are literally too stupid to join the Army. The Army won't take people with IQs that low because there is no way to make them a net positive.
These people are so stuck on the coasts. I’m not really aware of much of any of Irish, Jewish and Italian in my ancestry. I’m more English, Dutch, and a little German and most of us were here first. So, I guess my ancestors failed to gatekeep the country well.
My ancestors came.in legally during the largest period of growth. After the Civil war there was so much land and new growing industry there was room. More importantly they assimilated. They WANTED to be American.
The guy's post may seem like a parody, but I believe he's a libertarian - so he might well unironically say this.
Also such disgraceful discrimination about those of us civilized people who do not have ancestors in barbaric hellholes like Ireland, Italy and Israel.
The guy's post may seem like a parody, but I believe he's a libertarian
As something of a libertarian myself...man, I wish libertarians weren't retarded.
But yeah, it is weird. His top posts (I still haven't bothered to sign in to Twitter/X, so that's how it sorts) are all very antiestablishment, "covid skepticism."
And he even defended Alex Jones.
Did the jury know that Alex Jones didn’t kill the kids?
So this is a really weird take from someone who, at a glance, seems dissident and sane. Like you said, maybe one of the especially retarded "open borders libertarians" or something.
Don't get me started on those fucks. They're gigaautists who haven't bothered to even think things through. One of the core tenets of libertarianism is the concept of private property. You can easily scale that up to a state or nation...and then open borders quickly becomes one of the most anti-libertarian stances you can hold. So these people are just utopians so wrapped up in their "identity/community" of libertarianism they don't bother to question anything. Basically...leftists that like the idea of freedom, but don't quite understand it.
Defending Alex Jones AND open borders is not exactly unusual for a lolbertarian.
Unfortunately, a lot of them have the idea of "open borders would not be a problem if it weren't for the welfare state". And then they put the cart before the horse by advocating for it now.
Even if there were no welfare state, I don't want that. The job of my government is to protect my interests, even though all it does is harm them, not import foreigners for their benefit and that of holders of capital.
Even if there were no welfare state, I don't want that. The job of my government is to protect my interests
Yup, America First (or [Country] First) means just that; putting your own people first.
Even if we got rid all the perverse incentives, we're still not obligated to take in any foreigners if we don't want to. Even if they weren't cat-eating savages.
I don't get open border libertarians. I thought one of the most basic tenets of libertarianism was the establishment of private property, how you going to have that with no borders
Spoiler: They're leftists. Any "open border libertarian" is, without fault, going to care more about leftist causes like "diversity" and "tolerance" (in the lefty sense) than they do about liberty and freedom.
Putting aside the subversion of the libertarian movement, this sort of libertarian is at least moderately better than a standard leftist, since they at least think they care about freedom...but don't get the wrong idea; these are still leftist ideologs.
It's the Libertarians+chamber of commerce+Koch Bros business alliance. The idea that any human should be free to move wherever they want... and a businessman should be free to hire whomever he wants, even for slave wages. Ignore all negative consequences.
I imagine they think you'd have borders between your land and your neighbor's land but no government borders because there would be barely any government, if at all. They think that the planet can just be a bunch of homesteads and everyone will play nice.
Libertarianism only "works" when there's a frontier and every conflict can be resolved by one party being forced to move along.
In theory, you can. It would mean that someone from Senegal can buy up the house next to yours and go live there. It's not exactly a violation of private property rights. I guess they'd probably even say that NOT having open borders is a violation of property rights, because American citizens would have greater right to enjoy their private property than those who are not.
Open border libertarians are short-sighted individuals who do not understand the need for preemptive defence. The first requirement of a libertarian state is that it is able to defend its libertarianism - if China can skip the One Child Policy by sending all their surplus population to the United States, you'll soon find you've been outvoted and are now a Chinese vassal state.
I wish for Bryan Caplan to live in Haiti for a year with no resources.
(For those that don't know, Bryan Caplan is a big proponent of the entire idea of 'unlimited immigration while abolishing the welfare state'. I'm not sure if he's the first to come up with it, but...)
Libertarianism is one of those things a lot of fools newly discovering how shit the major parties are cling onto - without actually understanding the logic behind it. Carving out individual pieces of it to implement without consideration to how they are all meant to work together is common with that crowd, like their idea of "left libertarian".
If we treated Haitians the way we treated Italians back in the day or the way the British treated the Irish, we'd have alot less Haitians. And alot less immigrants wanting to come over as a whole. Though we'd probably still have to deal with all the organized crime bullshit.
(Spoilers: Said treatment involves lynching and genocide.)
Water-brained midwit fuck knows nothing about history and trying to blather off a zinger that he thinks sounds cute.
The "history" he knows is the modern, Howard Zinn filtered version woke history professors know. Real history has no ideological "lens," it is just what was.
I found this wikipedia alternative possibly containing his (admittedly unverified) early life.
Here it is as follows.
International Socialist Upbringing
Thaddeus Russell was born and raised in Berkeley, California; he lived about three blocks away from the Black Panthers' national headquarters. His parents were part of the International Socialists (IS). By joining this Trotskyist organization, they left their middle-class lives to work in the heavy industry to organize the proletariat to join for revolution.
Thaddeus Russell's father heavily influenced his childhood from an ideological perspective.
While working as a computer programmer, he organized a union at the Northern California headquarters of the National Forest Service. He met Russell's mother at a Young People's Socialist League meeting. Thaddeus was conceived a year later while on their tour of Europe visiting comrades in London and Paris.
His mother became a clerical worker at UC Berkeley to organize the secretaries and bring about a communist revolution. His stepfather left his world to become a steelworker and a truck driver for Safeway. The couple would host meetings at their house where they would discuss Marxist theory and the union shops they should infiltrate.
According to Russell's mother, he wanted to be in the IS when he was 10 years old. As a result, he ended up going to college wanting to learn more about socialism so that he could perfect it in his adult life.
Source. He may or may not be a Jew, but he is %100 a commie.
The fuck did the Irish do? U2 is a scourge but they're old and over. The Dublin Whiskey Fire of 1875 was tragic but tell me your modern Latinos and blacks wouldn't also drink themselves to death if free alcohol was flowing down the streets. Was it for helping build the railroad?
He picks interesting choices because a plurality of white identitarians don't consider those ethnicities as white. Especially the jews. So I would assume the group of people he is attempting to shame are answering with what's that got to do with us, throw them folks out as well.
What the fuck do our ancestors have to do with anything?
Eating municipal wildlife and others' pets is against the law. Today. Walking into the country without proper documents is against the law. Today. I don't have a time machine to go hold my ancestors responsible for their transgressions, faggot, but even if I did, how does that absolve what's happening right now?
I mean, my direct ancestors dealt with uppity Yankee fuckwits by shooting them in broad daylight. Or making them a meal for the local gator population. If this guy wants to revert to ancestors... well...
The right answer is: What about Haiti or Africa or any other place in the world at that time? If things were in America or Europe or Britain at that time as bad as you describe them, how was everything going anywhere else?
One of these things is not like the others.
The Italians know how to cook?
Jews aren't White.
And the Italians are?
North Italians are. South Italians are a bit more of a mixed bag because of the Arab invasions.
In Europe, yes, they count as white.
And in America. Look at the census records, everyone descended primarily from indigenous Europeans is lumped together as White instead counting Celtic, Slavic, or Mediterranean people seperately.
((((The reason people use this when they speak of jews is because it resembles a cunt))))
And once again, how many illegals does he take into his house? Also, they admit it’s happening
The hands of a person who lives in a gated community patrolled by private security typed this.
That is an extremely wide nose.
I'm honestly impressed by the monomania.
It looks weird bro.
Wait, so this wasn't a "da Jooooz are bad"?
Y'know, if people like you would just acknowledge when individual Jews are fucking racists and that there are a lot of fucking racist individual Jews without requiring every Jew to be a fucking racist, instead of sperging about everyone else noticing how many fucking racist Jews there are, maybe when this all comes to a head the fallout will mostly be limited to the fucking racist Jews instead of all of them.
A lot of Jews are idiots. It goes further than just hating white people. But the same is true for both our groups.
Yeah but they STOPPED after the famine, the Haitian 'immigrants' CONTINUE even though you can easily buy food or get food stamps from the government.
The only ones that continue are typically those still living in commie areas and still that fear they could regress into those times again.
Yeah. Irish, Jews, and Italians were poor. Hattians are retarded savages with a culture that doesn't even understand a lot of concepts inherent in basic civilization. #NotAll, of course, and all that.
Also...bottom line, they're not Americans, and we're shipping them over now. So we should stop. It's not even about how good or bad they are compared to past immigrants...we're full, fuck off.
Settling untamed lands and facing hardship is not the same as coming over to parasitize an established welfare state.
Not all immigration is equal.
I will also say that the Irish Immigrants actually volunteered (er, mostly volunteered) to fight in America's armies. I get the feeling that the Haitians aren't real interested in joining to save Ukraine at the moment.
The Haitians can't volunteer actually. They are literally too stupid to join the Army. The Army won't take people with IQs that low because there is no way to make them a net positive.
"Sure, they're eating cats, but you're worse okay!"
That'll show them.
Who is this guy and why should I care?
These people are so stuck on the coasts. I’m not really aware of much of any of Irish, Jewish and Italian in my ancestry. I’m more English, Dutch, and a little German and most of us were here first. So, I guess my ancestors failed to gatekeep the country well.
My ancestors came.in legally during the largest period of growth. After the Civil war there was so much land and new growing industry there was room. More importantly they assimilated. They WANTED to be American.
The guy's post may seem like a parody, but I believe he's a libertarian - so he might well unironically say this.
Also such disgraceful discrimination about those of us civilized people who do not have ancestors in barbaric hellholes like Ireland, Italy and Israel.
As something of a libertarian myself...man, I wish libertarians weren't retarded.
But yeah, it is weird. His top posts (I still haven't bothered to sign in to Twitter/X, so that's how it sorts) are all very antiestablishment, "covid skepticism."
And he even defended Alex Jones.
So this is a really weird take from someone who, at a glance, seems dissident and sane. Like you said, maybe one of the especially retarded "open borders libertarians" or something.
Don't get me started on those fucks. They're gigaautists who haven't bothered to even think things through. One of the core tenets of libertarianism is the concept of private property. You can easily scale that up to a state or nation...and then open borders quickly becomes one of the most anti-libertarian stances you can hold. So these people are just utopians so wrapped up in their "identity/community" of libertarianism they don't bother to question anything. Basically...leftists that like the idea of freedom, but don't quite understand it.
Defending Alex Jones AND open borders is not exactly unusual for a lolbertarian.
Unfortunately, a lot of them have the idea of "open borders would not be a problem if it weren't for the welfare state". And then they put the cart before the horse by advocating for it now.
Even if there were no welfare state, I don't want that. The job of my government is to protect my interests, even though all it does is harm them, not import foreigners for their benefit and that of holders of capital.
Yup, America First (or [Country] First) means just that; putting your own people first.
Even if we got rid all the perverse incentives, we're still not obligated to take in any foreigners if we don't want to. Even if they weren't cat-eating savages.
I don't get open border libertarians. I thought one of the most basic tenets of libertarianism was the establishment of private property, how you going to have that with no borders
Spoiler: They're leftists. Any "open border libertarian" is, without fault, going to care more about leftist causes like "diversity" and "tolerance" (in the lefty sense) than they do about liberty and freedom.
Putting aside the subversion of the libertarian movement, this sort of libertarian is at least moderately better than a standard leftist, since they at least think they care about freedom...but don't get the wrong idea; these are still leftist ideologs.
It's the Libertarians+chamber of commerce+Koch Bros business alliance. The idea that any human should be free to move wherever they want... and a businessman should be free to hire whomever he wants, even for slave wages. Ignore all negative consequences.
I imagine they think you'd have borders between your land and your neighbor's land but no government borders because there would be barely any government, if at all. They think that the planet can just be a bunch of homesteads and everyone will play nice.
Libertarianism only "works" when there's a frontier and every conflict can be resolved by one party being forced to move along.
In theory, you can. It would mean that someone from Senegal can buy up the house next to yours and go live there. It's not exactly a violation of private property rights. I guess they'd probably even say that NOT having open borders is a violation of property rights, because American citizens would have greater right to enjoy their private property than those who are not.
Open border libertarians are short-sighted individuals who do not understand the need for preemptive defence. The first requirement of a libertarian state is that it is able to defend its libertarianism - if China can skip the One Child Policy by sending all their surplus population to the United States, you'll soon find you've been outvoted and are now a Chinese vassal state.
I wish for Bryan Caplan to live in Haiti for a year with no resources.
(For those that don't know, Bryan Caplan is a big proponent of the entire idea of 'unlimited immigration while abolishing the welfare state'. I'm not sure if he's the first to come up with it, but...)
Libertarianism is one of those things a lot of fools newly discovering how shit the major parties are cling onto - without actually understanding the logic behind it. Carving out individual pieces of it to implement without consideration to how they are all meant to work together is common with that crowd, like their idea of "left libertarian".
You bastard. I assumed gigaautists was some word I didn't know, googled, and it suggested giga autisists.
GOTTEM!
Left Libertarians are the enemies of Liberty. We should repel borders.
If what I just posted down below is of any indication, he is a flat out communist (specifically a Trotskyist).
If we treated Haitians the way we treated Italians back in the day or the way the British treated the Irish, we'd have alot less Haitians. And alot less immigrants wanting to come over as a whole. Though we'd probably still have to deal with all the organized crime bullshit.
(Spoilers: Said treatment involves lynching and genocide.)
Water-brained midwit fuck knows nothing about history and trying to blather off a zinger that he thinks sounds cute.
The guy is a History professor and podcaster. He has the bona fides, I don't know if he has the smarts though
The "history" he knows is the modern, Howard Zinn filtered version woke history professors know. Real history has no ideological "lens," it is just what was.
So he isn't retarded, he's just actively evil.
Well, good to have that cleared up.
I found this wikipedia alternative possibly containing his (admittedly unverified) early life. Here it is as follows.
Source. He may or may not be a Jew, but he is %100 a commie.
This says nothing about how current political views.
I like how people here are obsessed with 'proving' that everyone they don't like is either a Jew or a communist, or both.
I hate to quote Dr. Phil but, "The greatest predictor of future behavior is past behavior."
No they didn't. And they came here legally.
The nanosecond he would have to deal with this in his neighborhood he would demand police patrol park ponds.
You kikes killed Jesus.
What about my Scandinavian ancestors? I know Lutfisk is a thing, but there are worse things to hold against them.
I for one have never forgiven you for the Siege of Paris.
Reparations for Lindisfarne when?
The fuck did the Irish do? U2 is a scourge but they're old and over. The Dublin Whiskey Fire of 1875 was tragic but tell me your modern Latinos and blacks wouldn't also drink themselves to death if free alcohol was flowing down the streets. Was it for helping build the railroad?
What did they do?
They were white. And they were white. Apparently you should be eternally ashamed about that
He picks interesting choices because a plurality of white identitarians don't consider those ethnicities as white. Especially the jews. So I would assume the group of people he is attempting to shame are answering with what's that got to do with us, throw them folks out as well.
Good point
I assumed he was lumping them all together
When it suits their purposes, they do.
Well, whites aren't exactly from the Caucuses either.
Progressive racial anatomy was always stupid.
Then they should have been deported.
Damn, they are moving this along at lightspeed. Tomorrow they will get to "and this is why it's a good thing".
This is the cuck that humiliated himself on Joe rogan a few years back when talking about gender.
Your cats and dogs are being eaten alive. But here is why it is a good thing :
your children aren’t (for now)