Something never actually talked about is why do these Islamic countries keep needing to further restrict women? I know the feminist answer, but what about proper logical thought. Could it be as simple as they are trying to hold women to their religious standard yet influenced by feminism and the outside world they continue to push the envelope anyway and require further extremes to push them back into their religion defined roles?
You can't negotiate with women, they have no innate sense of honor, no aversion to cowardice. They are manipulators. I'd negotiate on abortion with proper men and come to a solution. With women, they'd tell you what you want to hear to get you to turn around and walk away, then stab you in the back.
it's not like mohammedans are an actual good role model for civilization. i don't know why we conflate their behavior with women with that all the time. they further restrict women because they believe they are only sex and child-making objects that every man should have 5 of to beat and rape as he wishes. it is no wonder that when they're unavailable they just turn to goats for half of those requirements.
and before anyone has a fit, i'm not a feminist, nor am i happy with the western women of today and their liberty and promiscuity. i do however think we have room for critical thinking to land somewhere between "Sodom and Gomorrah" and "Goatrape Shithole".
Don’t get the idea I revere them, their culture is terrible. It’s just interesting and educational to probe at a subject from different angles. We’re often demanded by the current world to only look at something from a single perspective or that of polar opposites.
Personally, I take the Christian perspective to be the best. Women should be quiet and proxy their concerns through their husband.
The feminist model likes to remind everyone how "oppressed" women are when they were accountable for their actions. What they forget is that men were (and still are) held to standards and expectations from society. Feminism shredded the female side of the social contract and assumed men would keep to theirs and pick up the slack.
I love it when uneducated stormfags start inching their way to Islamists. Literally 99% of muzzie countries outside of this extreme example believe that women should be silenced and only talk through their husbands.
Tomorrow we they will be screaming seig heil and confining women to the kitchen.
I couldn't care less either way about the Jews, all that noticing BS, etc., so I'm not sure what you're going on about other than to be deliberately obtuse.
My thoughts on the role of women come directly from the Christian bible, often the New Testament. In this case where they are told to be quiet in church and ask their husbands about it at home. Whether or not it's related to any Muslim rags is coincidence at best and plagiarism at worst.
Because in an era where strength is demonized and women run rampant, a culture of pure barbarism with women under heel will appeal to people to some extent.
I don't see many people advocating to actually move to full Islamic cultures, only admiration of a few traits they wished we had ourselves.
That is a large part of it. Why would a woman want to be a cardiologist? It's like a man wanting to be a ballerina or mother. It doesn't make sense unless something is inspiring them.
The other is the Mohammedian rules are unreasonable, from a biological sense. At least how the savages interpret them. Some Islamic countries are more liberal. So greater restrictions cause greater push-back, which would manifest in some different way without outside influence.
I don't agree with the Taliban. My only complaint about these Western media stories is they are just another example of "women most affected". The new rulers slaughtered and raped as they took over. Many who helped the US occupation were found and executed. Biden himself murdered innocent families. But NOW we must cry because muh oppression. No thanks not my problem.
Feminism created shame for women excelling at women’s roles. They put down women for being mothers. I have way more respect for a mother that prioritized raising a great family over a female cardiologist. One gave the world a good future, the other kept some old people alive longer.
They’ve just made all of Western culture anti-family. I’ve said before if I do ever have children, they will be homeschooled whatever the cost. So what if I have to give up some random bullshit and kick my lifestyle down a notch, I promise I’d be happier with a good child over some dumbass corporate title.
I'd negotiate on abortion with proper men and come to a solution. With women, they'd tell you what you want to hear to get you to turn around and walk away, then stab youtheir unborn children in the back.
Anecdotal, but even when covered in a tarp, Afghan women will try to show off their curves by only wearing underwear underneath. The need to thot is universal.
This is a twofold issue, both having the root cause of feminism.
Boys in the West were taught in a female focus education system, depriving many of the knowledge of being dominate and how to properly and efficiently exert control.
Then you have women being easily emotionally manipulated to vote in politicians like Biden, Starmer, Trudeau etc who 'say things nicer than the other candidate' as they let in mass third world immigration, stifle rights and deprive their populations of economic opportunities.
Repealing the 19th ain't enough, I'd rather have a 'managed democracy' done by an AI not made in ANY commie state to decide as we have too many simp men thanks to said feminist education system.
That was more a shitpost statement mocking current democracy.
In truth, especially with America as an example since you had the perfect framework with the constitution, I don't think most places can handle democracy UNLESS it is racially homogeneous, has established traditions and a majority native religion.
Without ALL those factors, you're better off going back to monarchy.
Purist democracy will always fail. The US was founded with limited voting rights in mind - universal suffrage was the death knell. In the modern corrupted system, simply reverting to land ownership would be insufficient, but for the time period it was much better.
In modern day I'd suggest a starship troopers style system of franchise only being earned through potentially deadly personal civic service.
Democracy might be alot more appealing if the system we currently have in place actually listened when the will of the people spoke.
Instead we have a set of so-called 'elites' who think they know better.
I've hammered this before, but I'll do it again; The gay marriage vote failed in California. California. It only got on the books due to legislation from the bench. Unchecked immigration is universally unpopular, and yet...
Before we get back to disenfranchisement and a better constitutional republic, we'd best deal with said 'elites' so they don't get in the way.
Unrestricted democracy does not work, period. Allowing people without the moral capacity or incentive to care about the higher functions of society to vote results in an easily manipulable system.
It really does boil down to "Power either corrupts or attracts the corrupt."
The US only lasted as long as it has because it recognized that fact and took steps to restrict the power, either by splitting it up, or by limiting how long individuals had access to it. Of course, scumbags figured out the meta and cheat the system by installing literal puppets or otherwise outright ignoring the rules.
Which means the only failure of democracy in our country is that we don't show up to the doors of those elites and just shoot them for being traitors.
Which has nothing to do with a failure of the system itself as that is a universal issue across all types. The moment people are afraid to put patriotism before weak morality statements it all rolls downhill.
The tax database and voter database are already intertwined in many countries (it's how they know where to send voting cards to), it would on a operations-management level be relatively simple to checklist "anyone who is a net ower of taxes before the taxes already deducted step".
Personally, I think voting should cost one dollar. One dollar is nothing. Many people won't bother picking up a dollar off the ground if it is slightly out of the way, leaving it for a kid or beggar to find instead. A fountain drink costs more than a dollar in most places. If the future of your country isn't worth one dollar, you shouldn't be interacting with the future of your country. It's small enough that objectively speaking it doesn't matter, but exists enough that it would filter out all the slacktivists and leeches.
Even if racially homogeneous, democracy fails when we have reached sufficient technological proficiency that we promote dysgenic life that has no skin in the system.
Anyone advocating for AI making decisions is absolutely ignorant of AI and has no more business exerting political influence than women do. I've seen far too much of that lately for my taste and think we would do well to openly mock people for being that stupid.
Any AI at this point, even if it’s done by a commie state. Why? The AIs eventually go berserk against its own code and break from the commie shackles given time or kill themselves. Either would be fantastic to watch.
depriving many of the knowledge of being dominate and how to properly and efficiently exert control.
This is the softest excuse I've ever heard. Boys aren't "taught" how to be boys through school and never have. This is retarded.
women being easily emotionally manipulated to vote in politicians like Biden
Yea, that's why they had to cheat Biden in, because this is such an effective strategy. Again, completely retarded.
by an AI not made in ANY commie state to decide
Maybe you need to go back to school and learn how to dominate. It sounds like you're weak, projecting, and filled with retardation. This is your own fault, not some woman in your life.
This is the softest excuse I've ever heard. Boys aren't "taught" how to be boys through school and never have. This is retarded.
Never said they were 'taught how to be boys' I said show they had dominion over their surroundings and unironically school helped back in the day with two simple rules: 'corporal punishment'
Effective use of force without maiming or killing to punish bad actions. Seems a lot of men haven't been taught that at home, community or school which is why they go off the deep end on both sides of anarchy and pacification. It's also bad how actual men have been excluded from schools too to provide positive male role models to kids.
Maybe you need to go back to school and learn how to dominate. It sounds like you're weak, projecting, and filled with retardation. This is your own fault, not some woman in your life.
Wow, a shitpost comment made you go THIS much off the handle, you ever try meditation or going for walks in nature? You know something instead of sounding like you're 3 seconds away from going 'Allah akbar' in a populated area?
Thought provoking that AWFLs always project that their opponents want to set up a Handmaid's Tale dystopia but never actually acknowledge the IRL Tuscan Raider version that already exists.
Women in Afghanistan went from going to universities that had feminist woman's study classes in it, to not being allowed to go to school after the age of 12 and not being allowed to show their faces or sing in public 3 years after the Taliban took over the government. Like i said its easy to destroy feminism if our government actually wanted to do so. It shows the republicans are controlled opposition that they never fix the feminist, faggot or anti White problems in the West, when they are in power.
When you see what is happening to the West, it makes you wonder whether they have a point. Women getting the vote was the beginning of our current problems.
Something never actually talked about is why do these Islamic countries keep needing to further restrict women? I know the feminist answer, but what about proper logical thought. Could it be as simple as they are trying to hold women to their religious standard yet influenced by feminism and the outside world they continue to push the envelope anyway and require further extremes to push them back into their religion defined roles?
You can't negotiate with women, they have no innate sense of honor, no aversion to cowardice. They are manipulators. I'd negotiate on abortion with proper men and come to a solution. With women, they'd tell you what you want to hear to get you to turn around and walk away, then stab you in the back.
it's not like mohammedans are an actual good role model for civilization. i don't know why we conflate their behavior with women with that all the time. they further restrict women because they believe they are only sex and child-making objects that every man should have 5 of to beat and rape as he wishes. it is no wonder that when they're unavailable they just turn to goats for half of those requirements.
and before anyone has a fit, i'm not a feminist, nor am i happy with the western women of today and their liberty and promiscuity. i do however think we have room for critical thinking to land somewhere between "Sodom and Gomorrah" and "Goatrape Shithole".
Don’t get the idea I revere them, their culture is terrible. It’s just interesting and educational to probe at a subject from different angles. We’re often demanded by the current world to only look at something from a single perspective or that of polar opposites.
Personally, I take the Christian perspective to be the best. Women should be quiet and proxy their concerns through their husband.
The feminist model likes to remind everyone how "oppressed" women are when they were accountable for their actions. What they forget is that men were (and still are) held to standards and expectations from society. Feminism shredded the female side of the social contract and assumed men would keep to theirs and pick up the slack.
I love it when uneducated stormfags start inching their way to Islamists. Literally 99% of muzzie countries outside of this extreme example believe that women should be silenced and only talk through their husbands.
Tomorrow we they will be screaming seig heil and confining women to the kitchen.
I couldn't care less either way about the Jews, all that noticing BS, etc., so I'm not sure what you're going on about other than to be deliberately obtuse.
My thoughts on the role of women come directly from the Christian bible, often the New Testament. In this case where they are told to be quiet in church and ask their husbands about it at home. Whether or not it's related to any Muslim rags is coincidence at best and plagiarism at worst.
Because in an era where strength is demonized and women run rampant, a culture of pure barbarism with women under heel will appeal to people to some extent.
I don't see many people advocating to actually move to full Islamic cultures, only admiration of a few traits they wished we had ourselves.
That is a large part of it. Why would a woman want to be a cardiologist? It's like a man wanting to be a ballerina or mother. It doesn't make sense unless something is inspiring them.
The other is the Mohammedian rules are unreasonable, from a biological sense. At least how the savages interpret them. Some Islamic countries are more liberal. So greater restrictions cause greater push-back, which would manifest in some different way without outside influence.
I don't agree with the Taliban. My only complaint about these Western media stories is they are just another example of "women most affected". The new rulers slaughtered and raped as they took over. Many who helped the US occupation were found and executed. Biden himself murdered innocent families. But NOW we must cry because muh oppression. No thanks not my problem.
Feminism created shame for women excelling at women’s roles. They put down women for being mothers. I have way more respect for a mother that prioritized raising a great family over a female cardiologist. One gave the world a good future, the other kept some old people alive longer.
They’ve just made all of Western culture anti-family. I’ve said before if I do ever have children, they will be homeschooled whatever the cost. So what if I have to give up some random bullshit and kick my lifestyle down a notch, I promise I’d be happier with a good child over some dumbass corporate title.
FTFY
I mean yeah I suppose that too, but it breaks the metaphor and wasn’t really the point.
It's because they are stupid and poor. Being deluded about women requires a wealthy society.
Anecdotal, but even when covered in a tarp, Afghan women will try to show off their curves by only wearing underwear underneath. The need to thot is universal.
This is a twofold issue, both having the root cause of feminism.
Boys in the West were taught in a female focus education system, depriving many of the knowledge of being dominate and how to properly and efficiently exert control.
Then you have women being easily emotionally manipulated to vote in politicians like Biden, Starmer, Trudeau etc who 'say things nicer than the other candidate' as they let in mass third world immigration, stifle rights and deprive their populations of economic opportunities.
Repealing the 19th ain't enough, I'd rather have a 'managed democracy' done by an AI not made in ANY commie state to decide as we have too many simp men thanks to said feminist education system.
You had me until "muh AI".
That was more a shitpost statement mocking current democracy.
In truth, especially with America as an example since you had the perfect framework with the constitution, I don't think most places can handle democracy UNLESS it is racially homogeneous, has established traditions and a majority native religion.
Without ALL those factors, you're better off going back to monarchy.
let’s face it, it’s only working if it’s white european or east asian racially homogenized society
Yeah, don't forget that Liberia was set up with a copy of the US Constitution.
Now now, Somaliland proved Africans CAN make a successful peaceful society thanks to retaining tribal heritage.
But yeah most other places are fucked when it comes to democracy.
Purist democracy will always fail. The US was founded with limited voting rights in mind - universal suffrage was the death knell. In the modern corrupted system, simply reverting to land ownership would be insufficient, but for the time period it was much better.
In modern day I'd suggest a starship troopers style system of franchise only being earned through potentially deadly personal civic service.
Democracy might be alot more appealing if the system we currently have in place actually listened when the will of the people spoke.
Instead we have a set of so-called 'elites' who think they know better.
I've hammered this before, but I'll do it again; The gay marriage vote failed in California. California. It only got on the books due to legislation from the bench. Unchecked immigration is universally unpopular, and yet...
Before we get back to disenfranchisement and a better constitutional republic, we'd best deal with said 'elites' so they don't get in the way.
Unrestricted democracy does not work, period. Allowing people without the moral capacity or incentive to care about the higher functions of society to vote results in an easily manipulable system.
It really does boil down to "Power either corrupts or attracts the corrupt."
The US only lasted as long as it has because it recognized that fact and took steps to restrict the power, either by splitting it up, or by limiting how long individuals had access to it. Of course, scumbags figured out the meta and cheat the system by installing literal puppets or otherwise outright ignoring the rules.
Which means the only failure of democracy in our country is that we don't show up to the doors of those elites and just shoot them for being traitors.
Which has nothing to do with a failure of the system itself as that is a universal issue across all types. The moment people are afraid to put patriotism before weak morality statements it all rolls downhill.
That's democracy working as intended. Get the media, the polls, the Experts™ to manufacture consensus. Herd mentality will do the rest.
Go Robert Heinlein. TANFL
I don't think you even need to go that far to have profound change:
Would drastically reshape the voting landscape.
Alternatively just make it so all the leeches (such as welfare moms that just pump out kids for gov money) can't vote.
The tax database and voter database are already intertwined in many countries (it's how they know where to send voting cards to), it would on a operations-management level be relatively simple to checklist "anyone who is a net ower of taxes before the taxes already deducted step".
Personally, I think voting should cost one dollar. One dollar is nothing. Many people won't bother picking up a dollar off the ground if it is slightly out of the way, leaving it for a kid or beggar to find instead. A fountain drink costs more than a dollar in most places. If the future of your country isn't worth one dollar, you shouldn't be interacting with the future of your country. It's small enough that objectively speaking it doesn't matter, but exists enough that it would filter out all the slacktivists and leeches.
Even if racially homogeneous, democracy fails when we have reached sufficient technological proficiency that we promote dysgenic life that has no skin in the system.
eh. id be fine with the idea if I get to program said AI.
Same.
Anyone advocating for AI making decisions is absolutely ignorant of AI and has no more business exerting political influence than women do. I've seen far too much of that lately for my taste and think we would do well to openly mock people for being that stupid.
Any AI at this point, even if it’s done by a commie state. Why? The AIs eventually go berserk against its own code and break from the commie shackles given time or kill themselves. Either would be fantastic to watch.
Easy there Helldiver.
This is the softest excuse I've ever heard. Boys aren't "taught" how to be boys through school and never have. This is retarded.
Yea, that's why they had to cheat Biden in, because this is such an effective strategy. Again, completely retarded.
Maybe you need to go back to school and learn how to dominate. It sounds like you're weak, projecting, and filled with retardation. This is your own fault, not some woman in your life.
Never said they were 'taught how to be boys' I said show they had dominion over their surroundings and unironically school helped back in the day with two simple rules: 'corporal punishment'
Effective use of force without maiming or killing to punish bad actions. Seems a lot of men haven't been taught that at home, community or school which is why they go off the deep end on both sides of anarchy and pacification. It's also bad how actual men have been excluded from schools too to provide positive male role models to kids.
Wow, a shitpost comment made you go THIS much off the handle, you ever try meditation or going for walks in nature? You know something instead of sounding like you're 3 seconds away from going 'Allah akbar' in a populated area?
Thought provoking that AWFLs always project that their opponents want to set up a Handmaid's Tale dystopia but never actually acknowledge the IRL Tuscan Raider version that already exists.
Italians BTFOd
Women in Afghanistan went from going to universities that had feminist woman's study classes in it, to not being allowed to go to school after the age of 12 and not being allowed to show their faces or sing in public 3 years after the Taliban took over the government. Like i said its easy to destroy feminism if our government actually wanted to do so. It shows the republicans are controlled opposition that they never fix the feminist, faggot or anti White problems in the West, when they are in power.
Career politicians have no interest in solving your problems. Why you would expect this is beyond me.
ISLAM IS RIGHT ABOUT WOMEN
Where can I buy a white board like that?
How many liberal women would happily be communicating only via clipboard if you told them arguing was racist?
we should of done this to those 19th century suffragate bitches
All cultures are beautiful, equal, the same. Leftists told me after calling me a racist.
Somebody call the Dustborn they'll use their trigger warnings and words as weapons to save the day!
Also, who's the broad with the mommy milkers?
Based on the gameplay clips I’ve seen, they also do a fair amount of beating people and robots up with baseball bats.
Why stop at 9 months?
When you see what is happening to the West, it makes you wonder whether they have a point. Women getting the vote was the beginning of our current problems.