I admit I'm a bit optimistic in assuming that anyone where has watched it.
I enjoyed the first part (admittedly as a captive audience on a plane), but I did notice how they made the Fremen, who speak Arabic, half-black and half-Arab. Apparently, the Fremen are yuge racists who don't interbreed with the blacks among them, or if they had, all of them would be a mix of the two. But there was a clear dividing line between them, as if there's been segregation for centuries.
Look, I know you're looking for a movie rec here, but seriously: Dune is considered to be one of the greatest sci-fi novels of all time.
OF ALL TIME.
Seriously do yourself a favor and read it! There's a reason it's sold eleventy-gazillion copies!
I honestly can't understand how anyone who read the novel can like Dunc and say it is a good adaptation.
Just to add something.
Dunc 1 isn't exactly a bad movie. At least not compared to what Hollywood produces nowadays. Personally I found it quite boring. Had some nice visuals or impressive visuals might be the better description. But fuck me was it devoid of any creativity.
Lynchs Dune is the far better movie and adaptation, yes even the cinema version, as it is at least creative in its visuals and doesn't go for the sterile concrete look so many modern Sci-Fi movies go for. It feels epic and otherworldly, it looks otherworldly, it is creative, it is weird as any Dune adaptation should be, the characters have actual character, the soundtrack is great and memorable unlike Duncs Hans Zimmer crap and the costume design and casting are infinitely better.
In the end it is also a bad adaption (the fan cut improves it massively) but it at the very least feels like Dune and feels like it has respect for the source material even if they failed at adapting it. And most importantly it isn't boring.
it feels like the new movies are perfect for taking screenshot and making them illustrated inserts for the book but can't stand on their own as storytelling medium
Some scenes. Mostly the landscapes. But everything else is far too bland considering Dune is supposed to be set in a 10000 year old feudal society with millennia old noble houses.
I highly suggest the audiobooks. I listened to them as I was going to sleep. The ones with Simon Vance, he's a great reader.
I can't stand listening to books where they do a bunch of voices for each character. Is it like that?
The first book has different voice actors for different characters, but for many of the books after that it's just Simon Vance and like 1 other and he doesn't put on much of a voice between characters I think.
Zendeya is fucking awful in it and the changes made to make Channi the anti-paul were terrible. The entire last 20mins are a garbage departure from the books. Now there are parts of the movie that were great, I'm talking 10/10 but the end combined with the parts that are 2/10 ruin the overall experience. I give it 5 rotten squirrel nuts and .5 spoiled milk out of 10
So... she's playing herself like John Cleese plays himself in Fawtly Towers?
Hey, remember when she claimed that she went into some high-class store and the clerk there said "I'm sorry, Ma'am, but we have to decline your purchase, because don't serve FUCKING NIGGERS LIKE YOU HERE"... even though she's lighter than most white people?
OK, so tune out the last part.
she's not lighter than most white people she's fucking brown
Not to mention a permanent resting bitch face.
She doesn’t even look remotely black. I would’ve guessed at least 3 other types of brown before getting to black.
High end stores don't refuse to serve people unless they're those weird boutiques that don't even open except by referral based appointments.
Tiffany stores let anyone in, they sell shit that normal people could hypothetically afford like $500 sunglasses. Oakleys are like $200-300 and they don't give two shits who comes in.
This is just another Juicy Smollet story that doesn't hold up to any scrutiny.
High end stores often insist you buy 100s of “high profit garbage” before you are allowed to buy the “in demand” items.
She probably twisted this kind of story like a pale Jussie Smollett.
Don't be lazy. Just read the books.
I’ve read book one. Got the next 2 books in my mountain of books. My brother said to stay away from the ones his son wrote. You agree with that?
I'd say read the first three, next three are questionable, everything else is done in collaboration with one of the infamously bad authors of his era.
Read them all and decide for yourself.
Ok. Well I hope people get the books
lol don't read them all, the ones wrote by his son and Anderson are pretty bad and there are like 12 of them, that's pretty much 150 hours you're not getting back reading essentially bad fan fictions. if you want just pick vol1 of any of the prequel trilogies and see for yourself how bad it is
I "read" all the ones he wrote on audiobook. Tried to read the first two his son wrote to finish out the post Lato II storyline, but couldn't even get through the intro because the style was so different.
Thanks! I’ve heard that as well
At some point I'll find a way to get through that storyline because it really does feel incomplete in a way the other logical stopping points (after Dune or God Emperor) don't, but with the warnings I'd seen and the strong stylistic change I just couldn't go straight from Chapterhouse to Hunters.
I didn't mind the sons books but definitely a different style and whatnot from the original.
I don't think any of the books beyond the first are actually great, and after the second and third they're not worth reading at all. Honestly you could just read the original and be better off pretending it never had sequels.
I'm planning to, but I won't have the time any time soon. And I have to decide if I should watch the show in the theater, which is what is giving me trouble - because I don't want to back a woke show.
Why watch it at all? Why watch any Hollywood blockbuster in the theater?
A well acted Audiobook is available free on youtube
It was okay, but the departures from the books for the sake of DEI/ESG are really, really obvious, and quite cringe.
He is the Kwisatz Haderach.
Nooooooooooooooooooo
Well it's a bit dated now but fantastic RTS back in its day
Yes without paying. No to cinema.
I'm not answering your question, as I haven't seen the second one.
First one:
Timothee Chalamet is too much of a twink to be Paul.
Too god damn much "Bane voice" where dramatic people (e.g. Bene Gesserit) and bad guys have to speak like a cartoon comic villain twirling his mustache.
Chani sucks.
Fine, but I found it intensely boring.
Paul is supposed to be unimposing and younger looking than his 16 (I believe) years at the start of the first novel.
However, I agree with your other criticisms (though not your overall assessment.)
My beef is that Paul is also supposed to have been training his whole life in Bene Gesserit body and mind control, and, as the heir of a noble house, he's also been training as a fighter. He's young, but not wussy.
I also am just not a Chalamet fan, so there's that.
My stuff is really just nitpicks. I don't have any major complaints about Dune, it just doesn't didn't do anything for me.
Weird and at times BAD as it is, I prefer the 1984 Dune. I liked the miniseries too, but I haven't seen that in a long time.
Dude, it's Dune. Where the fuck have you been for the last few decades? The story isn't going to change that much.
Eh, it's a Hollywood adaption.
Too much woke feminist trash in the form of that god awful Zendeya. Hard pass.
I heard they wrote Chani as the real hero or something so nope, into the trash it goes.
Read the book and ignore shit movies.
I just saw it last night.
I thought it was a good movie. I haven't read the books yet so for this review I don't really care if it's a good adaptation, only whether it's a good film.
Chani is insufferable, but she's played by Zendaya so that is inevitable. Stilgar is unironically a better GF for Paul than Chani. He is literally ride or die for Paul, while Chani is a bitchy woman who constantly undermines him.
Jessica probably has the most dramatic change in her character.
The worms were my favorite part.
The bad parts of the movie are mostly just the standard DEI stuff and nitpicking from people more concerned with whether or not it's a good adaptation or not. If you take out Chani, there's basically no real bad parts.
Overall I'd say it's a solid 7/10, especially for a film in CURRENT YEAR.
Nah
Not sure if I've ranted about this before, but the fact that they did a gender swap of Liet-Kynes shows that their knowledge and awareness of the Dune universe is a wide yet shallow puddle.
Didn't watch the first, the second one can go fuck itself.
General consensus appears to be it's really good, except for Zendaya/Chani. I avoid modern Hollywood movies though, so I don't really have my own input.
the main char was such a noodle-armed femboy. the only cool parts where the interior flightdeck shots of the dragonfly-like aircraft
The superior Dune adaptation was the SciFi channel's miniseries in 2000.
Saw it on IMAX yesterday - worth it.
I thought it was cool. Been years since I read the books. Wishing for a God Emperor of Dune movie, that was my favorite.
This adaptation directly sets up the God Emperor movie. Where in, the reveal is that the God emperor of Arrakis is actually ZENDEYA! No, not Channi but Zendeya herself!!!!
They do that and I'll be putting my feet up some asses and breaking the feet off.
Yes