We did let Japan just bomb us. The U.S. government knew Japan was going to attack us, and knew it was at Pearl Harbor. They let it happen to give us casus beli to enter the war, against the wishes of the American public that overwhelmingly had zero interest in participating in another world war. This was the reason why most of our naval forces were outside of Pearl at the time of the attack.
Japan wasn't looking for a fight. The US imposed sanctions on Japan because of its aggression against China. There were negotiations on what Japan should do, but the US had rather far-reaching demands which Japan would not or could not agree to, which is what led to the war.
Of course, these are just the surface reasons. The real reasons are the same as why the US thwarted Germany's attempt at European hegemony in 1917 and 1941, and did the same for the Soviet Union during the Cold War. The US does not want any country to be a regional hegemon that could then potentially cause trouble for the US, militarily, economically, etc.
The war was largely fought with draftees, a non-consensual act. Also the Iwo Jima flag raising was ordered to be done twice. They had to go back non-consensually and get a larger flag to make the photographer happy. Can we ban that picture too?
The war was fought with draftees from every country involved including the United States. Many of the pre-war military were volunteers looking for work during the end of the depression. There were plenty of volunteers, but lots of draftees. The draft is non-consensual. If one act of non-consent, even if the girl in question didn't really mind, is enough to ban a picture then all are. The pre-war anti-war/peace movement was massive.
I did not say they were, I said largely. The point is that if one "non-consensual" act is enough to bury a famous part of Americana, in this case the celebration of the war with Japan ending early, then the large scale non-consensual act of wide spread drafts should make for the burying of all pro-US pictures from the war. I think we made the correct decision to fight Japan. I had a grandfather who volunteered overly enthusiastically for just that purpose. I am arguing against the erasure of our culture by revisionists who refuse to accept that their very changeable "Morale code" does not match what would be considered an acceptable act 80 years ago. In the case of the VJ Day kiss, it was only considered acceptable back then because it was a celebration of pent up release. "Oh My God the war's over!" "Ooof! Well alright you can have a kiss. It is a big day." No worries, we're on the same side of this.
The draft doesn't involve women, therefore your point is moot.
I don't disagree with your point. I'm just telling you the rules. If it was Uncle Jerome instead of aunt jemima, his picture would still be on the syrup just like Uncle Ben on the rice. This is a feminism issue, not an Americana one. Or rather, the driver of the issue is feminism.
I haven’t had to use them much outside of getting registered with them. My grandfather got his scooter from them in his 90s but that was a long time ago.
Brimshae is right. The VA have been abject scum for decades. They psychologically destroyed my family members, have a long history of abuse and neglect, and were only partly reformed post-9/11.
There were still bed-ridden veterans who's sores were covered in maggots from neglect in 2006.
Even during the Obamacare arguments some of my biggest arguments against government run healthcare was: "Have you even seen the VA?"
JFC. One of the best pictures to illustrate the relief people felt when the war finally ended, and they want to censor it? Even though it wasn't spontaneous at all?
Wait, then doesn’t that make it definitely consensual..?
If she agreed to that part (regardless of what happened after the photo - whether they went off together or not), then doesn’t that completely negate this claim that it was non-consensual..??
From everything I've heard, it was actually spontaneous, and she didn't know who he was. That being said, she explicitly said she didn't mind and it was just a crazy celebratory moment.
We should all be aware of the innocent Japanese peoples of all genders, ages, sexualities and creeds that this organisation killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and have them pay reparations to those generational offspring in the traditional manner.
By harikari.
Afterwards we'll all go out and grab a beer and kiss some young nurses and put the V back in V-J Day.
Isn't killing people inconsistent with pretty much all value systems? They should probably take down any military pictures, since we wouldn't want to glorify violence.
You know, come to think of it, they should probably just disband themselves, since giving medical care to disabled soldiers just encourages the cycle of violence.
I know we like to say “Islam is right about women”, etc., but I hate to tell you that this “decision” is the kind of shit Muslim countries do. PDA is, after all, worthy of a fine, and/or jail time, in the Islamic shitholes of the Gulf…
Which, considering their decadence, and the whole Instagram-THOTS-as-prostitutes/escorts treadmill, makes their hypocrisy on “moral grounds” all the more clear…
Fuck I hate the Middle East.
Oh, the UAE censors the internet, too. Like, to an extreme extent. Which I wasn’t aware of until the other day. But of course they do…
So yeah, this sort of puritanical shit comes straight out of that “culture” which leftists like those in charge of this decision love so much…
If the WW2 generation could see what the West became they would have never fought. We are not a serious people.
That reminds me, I need to find a list of what books were being burned before that war....
The Soviet union is currently winning.
Would they just let Japan bomb them? Lol
We did let Japan just bomb us. The U.S. government knew Japan was going to attack us, and knew it was at Pearl Harbor. They let it happen to give us casus beli to enter the war, against the wishes of the American public that overwhelmingly had zero interest in participating in another world war. This was the reason why most of our naval forces were outside of Pearl at the time of the attack.
Just like October 7th
Japan wasn't looking for a fight. The US imposed sanctions on Japan because of its aggression against China. There were negotiations on what Japan should do, but the US had rather far-reaching demands which Japan would not or could not agree to, which is what led to the war.
Of course, these are just the surface reasons. The real reasons are the same as why the US thwarted Germany's attempt at European hegemony in 1917 and 1941, and did the same for the Soviet Union during the Cold War. The US does not want any country to be a regional hegemon that could then potentially cause trouble for the US, militarily, economically, etc.
They wouldn't have been meddling in the war while claiming to be neutral, so Japan wouldn't have a reason to attack.
Are they gonna ban holocaust photos for non consensual activity?
What about photos of the Nuremburg trials?
Or the one of the Jap officer about to behead the G.I.?
Nah, only the ones that moralize white people.
The war was largely fought with draftees, a non-consensual act. Also the Iwo Jima flag raising was ordered to be done twice. They had to go back non-consensually and get a larger flag to make the photographer happy. Can we ban that picture too?
Not really. The war was mostly fought with volunteers. Daftees came at the end.
The war was fought with draftees from every country involved including the United States. Many of the pre-war military were volunteers looking for work during the end of the depression. There were plenty of volunteers, but lots of draftees. The draft is non-consensual. If one act of non-consent, even if the girl in question didn't really mind, is enough to ban a picture then all are. The pre-war anti-war/peace movement was massive.
I know that there were draftees, but I'm saying that those are not the majority (at least in the US).
I did not say they were, I said largely. The point is that if one "non-consensual" act is enough to bury a famous part of Americana, in this case the celebration of the war with Japan ending early, then the large scale non-consensual act of wide spread drafts should make for the burying of all pro-US pictures from the war. I think we made the correct decision to fight Japan. I had a grandfather who volunteered overly enthusiastically for just that purpose. I am arguing against the erasure of our culture by revisionists who refuse to accept that their very changeable "Morale code" does not match what would be considered an acceptable act 80 years ago. In the case of the VJ Day kiss, it was only considered acceptable back then because it was a celebration of pent up release. "Oh My God the war's over!" "Ooof! Well alright you can have a kiss. It is a big day." No worries, we're on the same side of this.
The draft doesn't involve women, therefore your point is moot.
I don't disagree with your point. I'm just telling you the rules. If it was Uncle Jerome instead of aunt jemima, his picture would still be on the syrup just like Uncle Ben on the rice. This is a feminism issue, not an Americana one. Or rather, the driver of the issue is feminism.
You have got to be kidding me! Doesn’t look like the woman was fighting him off. I can’t believe that the military/VA has turned into this
Son.... lemme tell you about the VA.
Fuck the VA. Fuck them right in the ear. That's all you need to know.
Also, I have this bumper sticker IRL.
I haven’t had to use them much outside of getting registered with them. My grandfather got his scooter from them in his 90s but that was a long time ago.
Brimshae is right. The VA have been abject scum for decades. They psychologically destroyed my family members, have a long history of abuse and neglect, and were only partly reformed post-9/11.
There were still bed-ridden veterans who's sores were covered in maggots from neglect in 2006.
Even during the Obamacare arguments some of my biggest arguments against government run healthcare was: "Have you even seen the VA?"
We're better off bulldozing the whole thing.
Yea I’ve heard some horror stories but never had any dealings outside of getting myself registered
She's been interviewed in the past, and she said she had no idea who he was, but she didn't mind because it was a pretty wild party atmosphere.
Yea she said I didn’t asked to be kissed and he was kissing any woman he could find but she clearly wasn’t bothered by it.
JFC. One of the best pictures to illustrate the relief people felt when the war finally ended, and they want to censor it? Even though it wasn't spontaneous at all?
I wonder what blue haired woman was behind this action.
The alleged signor of the memo appears to be Mrs. Humpty Dumpty: https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FGH6Q4J1XUAAJ09l.png
Latino Humpty Dumptess..? 🤔
Who shoved Mr. Dumpty off a wall then ate him apparently.
How much you want to bet that she did it out of envy for the girl in the photo?
It was probably a dude in a dress.
It was FUCKING STAGED
THEY WERE PAID TO POSE FOR A PRESS PHOTO
Ah, so they wouldn't have ordinarily done that without being paid.
Checkmate, monotheists.
Wait, then doesn’t that make it definitely consensual..?
If she agreed to that part (regardless of what happened after the photo - whether they went off together or not), then doesn’t that completely negate this claim that it was non-consensual..??
Fucking wack…
Is that actually true? I've heard similar claims as the reason why they're banning it now, and it made me a little uncomfortable.
Why? What's the claim?
That the guy randomly grabbed a woman and started kissing her.
That's how dating works. You choose random people and try to date them.
When you only date people you already know that's called incest.
I assume the concept of 'dating' doesn't involve forcing yourself on a woman.
I would hope the concept of 'dating' doesn't involve only women one already knows. Sisters, mothers, children of ones siblings.
Go be uncomfortable on reddit you clown, go cry with the other soy boys
How about no?
From everything I've heard, it was actually spontaneous, and she didn't know who he was. That being said, she explicitly said she didn't mind and it was just a crazy celebratory moment.
Granted my source is a history textbook I read 20 years ago and don't even remember the title of.
Was just a throwaway line of "despite appearances the photographer asked the two to participate in a photo op"
I've no idea. It sounds more plausible to me than the alternative.
Also you're a cunt.
That part is true.
We should all be aware of the innocent Japanese peoples of all genders, ages, sexualities and creeds that this organisation killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and have them pay reparations to those generational offspring in the traditional manner.
By harikari.
Afterwards we'll all go out and grab a beer and kiss some young nurses and put the V back in V-J Day.
Isn't killing people inconsistent with pretty much all value systems? They should probably take down any military pictures, since we wouldn't want to glorify violence.
You know, come to think of it, they should probably just disband themselves, since giving medical care to disabled soldiers just encourages the cycle of violence.
Fucking retards.
Remember the good guys won
And I didn't consent to any of this retarded cultural decay, and yet here we are.
"Older women in position of authority angry at depiction of younger women dating"
Oh man if they think that's non-consensual wait until they hear about war.
Have the archive
https://archive.ph/NNrRj
Let's find out how long the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima will last.
Kinda surprised they didn't replace it with the girl on girl kiss in Snyder's Watchmen movie.
That was cringey as fuck.
It was
In the interest of including everyone. We've added several people to the banned-and-not-included list.
How do they know it was non-consensual?
Eat shit and die you traitorous scum.
So this is what they spend their time and money on, instead of on the veterans.
"Be grateful we don't just shoot you for asking for your sign-on bonus." -- The VA, probably
The secretary of the department is saying it's fake news. https://twitter.com/SecVetAffairs/status/1765030481299460188
Military times confirmed the memo and they rescinded it today after it got leaked
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1765080723520971088
And now we have an apparent authentication for End Wokeness's side.
I know we like to say “Islam is right about women”, etc., but I hate to tell you that this “decision” is the kind of shit Muslim countries do. PDA is, after all, worthy of a fine, and/or jail time, in the Islamic shitholes of the Gulf…
Which, considering their decadence, and the whole Instagram-THOTS-as-prostitutes/escorts treadmill, makes their hypocrisy on “moral grounds” all the more clear…
Fuck I hate the Middle East.
Oh, the UAE censors the internet, too. Like, to an extreme extent. Which I wasn’t aware of until the other day. But of course they do…
So yeah, this sort of puritanical shit comes straight out of that “culture” which leftists like those in charge of this decision love so much…