Culture shock, sure, but the whole “Nordic model” is just a bit… Shit, honestly.
The whole country (that I have seen so far) feels like “Pleasantville”, but woke, and uber-modern, rather than 1950s Americana…
And the Turks. The fucking Turks here. Eugh…
Their rudeness seems more intentional than I would say it seems to be with more… “Native” Swedes.
Gonna be interesting learning to survive here. As a very “social” person, I… Certainly have some adjusting to do.
The strange mix of ultra-conformity and extreme cultural introvertedness is… A vibe. I’ll say that much.
Customer service? Ha…
It is absolutely intentional
I genuinely hate the Turkish nationalists after learning about their relationships with other middle eastern countries. Bit of an off topic back story with that but they have a lot of unpleasant history thanks to the Ottomon Empire and a bunch of them are fantasists who want to bring that shit back which is why they have such a god complex about ruling over other people depending on what they're like. Serious advice for the OP, stay the fuck away from the Turks and don't try talking about the Kurds etc. around them. Regardless of how anyone feels about the Kurds, it's easy to see why they end up fighting the Turks even in other countries.
It's complicated with the Kurds, I won't obviously condone their behaviour, however knowing your factions in the middle east is important. There are the Kurdish YPG who are the more sort of moderate force in the Kurdistan region that people actually like there and then there's the PKK who are regarded as terrorists even in the west because they go after civilian and political targets within Turkey itself which is how they got put on lists.
There is something going on with the Kurds as well though because I remember a recent story popping up about them kicking shit off in Japan and forgetting where they were. It seems people from the middle east especially can't keep their bullshit factional disputes within their home regions and that does piss me off because I grew up in a migrant community and I know what that's like.
I felt like turks were alright. Better than Africans in that they can actually build a society
Sweden is in a weird spot as had a far left leaning when it came to letting in migrants (though heard that's finally resulting in gains for more right leaning parties) but didn't fall for the pandemic measures.
At least you didn't move to France or Germany.
Politically..? Yeah. Though I think culturally I vibe with the French more than I do here…
I don’t fit this (introverted, antisocial, unhelpful, atomized) model of living/doing things. It’s just not me…
I’m not sure where I fit, though.
My ex tells me I should go to Slovenia (of all places) or Ireland, next, lol.
Ireland I vibe. Not sure about Slovenia though…
Regardless of place, I'd say you're better off in rural areas than cities reading your personality type.
There's definitely going to be cultures you gel to more but living in a smaller community, outdoors a lot and having people you can easily talk to compared to the more standoffish urban living seems like it suits you more.
What you describe just sounds like city life and honestly not too far removed how things are here in The Swamp.
Ireland is probably an even worse woke hellhole than Sweden.
The Swedish government absolutely would have loved to implement all of the same lockdown measures and vaccine passports as everywhere else, but their hands were tied. Sweden passed laws around 2010 restricting coercive public health measures after the Pandemrix scandal.
Laws in Europe don't mean anything. They can just pass another law...
The Pandemrix scandal was too recent and left too much of a mark on the Swedish public consciousness. As woke and cucked as most Swedes are, they would never have tolerated the government trying to force an experimental vaccine on them so soon after the last one permanently fucked up hundreds of kids.
Sweden was not having a lockdown way before any vaccine. Besides, you seem to vastly overestimate the amount of power that we (Europeans in general) have to resist government decrees. All there was, was quiet disobedience - a lot of people not wearing masks and stores/restaurants not demanding vaccine passports.
France is probably the least woke of European countries outside Poland and Hungary. However, it's also one of the most economically left of the European countries, with the Nordic countries being very business-friendly.
Fascinating how the 'Two Minutes of Hate' due to the Iraq War keeps paying dividends.
The didnt "fall" for it? It was painfully obvious ti anyone in Scandinavia thsr Sweden was the first country "to go". If they introduced lockdowns all the native Swedes would comply and all the invaders would rampage theough the streets in every major city. Hard to cover up Sweden just burning down in a month(;
Almost all of them in Sweden are actually Kurds, and most are the scummy Marxist kind too. Which is why they blow things up all the time (look up the PKK).
Have you experienced the tvättstuga yet?
What a fascinating part of Swedish culture. Thank you for sharing.
It's one of those things that sounds good in theory, but don't work in a multicultural neighborhood. Back in the 50's when most homes were built it made more sense to have shared laundry rooms with bigger and better equipment because you don't wash 24x7 every day anyway.
Next interesting topic to learn more about is the Millionprogramme, (miljonprogrammet) a housing project for the 50's which mixes 50-50 American suburbia with Soviet style commie blocks in segregated neighborhoods, all good in theory, well planned neighborhoods, the single family homes are actually doing great, large houses with even larger, more practical and tax free basements while the multi family commie blocks provides cheap apartments. Perfect if you're young or old.
That was a great link. Who would have thought the government could make buying alcohol so oppressive?
What do you call a Scandinavian driving you to the coast? A Fjord Escort.
The swedes can be a very sweet standoffish bunch until you get them talking. They believe in the castle walls. If they don't know you, they are short with their comments. When you get to know them, they love to talk and tell stories.
The biggest thing I've learned is they went hardcore left for several generations, nearly crashed, and have been going back since. Their ideas of feminism is a woman wearing a black leather strap on. The political parties run day camps and other fun adventures for youth. Yes that sounds like a mafia protection racket, but they will assure you it's different.
Enjoy yourself and live in a smaller city like Svalbarg.
Yeah. The norway shooter going after those youth camps...
Yeah, that's when I was assured it was perfectly normal and not to worry about it.
The major cities are annoyingly conformist and "modern". Get out to the countryside and you'll meet a totally different Swede. There, you'll find the Swedes who rejected the mass immigration early on. But in Stockholm, Malmo, and Gothemburg, you'll really only run into the hive mind. Unlike other parts of the west, Swedes get really, really uncomfortable when groupthink is challenged. Healthy debates aren't a thing in Swedish pubs... Just conformity.
But on the flip side, learn to like Kalles Kaviar, mashed potato hotdogs, Daim pear dream, and bandy... And maybe you'll learn to like Sweden.
You really moved to the only place that's worse than where you were.
He could fall a bit lower. He could've joined me in Canada. :|
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UK is also a good shout. Or Spain/South Korea, which are both extremely unhinged.
South Korea is only on your list because the anti-feminist presidential candidate said that he wanted to raise the 0.9 birth rate to something less immediately extinctory, and you called him a TRAITOR and announced that you were going to defeat him next time round.
Maybe, arguably. But there’s not as much “me”, here, so it’s a good opportunity to pretty much completely start over, without any of that “baggage”, from that perspective.
You know what surprises me, though? How fucking dirty everything is…
Oddly, for a country with a reputation for pretty much the opposite, the sheer amount of flies (everywhere) and litter is… Disconcerting.
But anyway, we’ll see, I guess.
That's how Italy was as I experienced it (20ish years ago but still) especially Roma. Garbage piles, flies, and the stench of rotten fish and open drains.
New Orleans is the only city that smells worse.
So much for the center of western culture and history, though I suppose it could be taken propheticly.
The garbage problem in various Italian cities was actually the result of mafia extortion rackets and other scams, which included burying toxic waste on arable land.
That's why you should avoid buying produce from Italy. It might be laced with carcinogens.
You've been Paris Syndrome'd. I assume it wears off and you just accept it at some point. But like someone else said, just move to a rural area.
Paris Syndrome is like Imposter Syndrome - it’s a very specific and rare psychological phenomenon that is now being pushed as commonplace in order to obscure an unpleasant reality.
In the case of imposter syndrome, we have loads and loads of diversity hires who absolutely do not belong in their unearned positions. These people will sometimes come to the realization that they don’t belong, which can be upsetting. Enter “imposter syndrome”, which reassures you that your feelings of inferiority are just a trick of the mind! You aren’t an unqualified diversity hire elevated above your station in order to satisfy a quota. No, you’re a perfect employee, every bit as skilled and talented as the non-diverse people around you, and any indicators to the contrary are just specters created by the oppressive systems that were designed to keep you down (where you belonged).
With Paris Syndrome, the Asians were said to have had mistaken expectations of certain cultural experiences when visiting famous foreign cities. But what if those cities actually have turned to shit over time? What if Paris and London are now majority non-white, filthy and violent, and no longer culturally French or British? What if San Francisco is now littered with homeless drug addicts, human feces, and used needless? When does Paris Syndrome become “the Asian tourists were right”?
Apologies for the tangent. I was struck with a parallel and had to get it down lol
Try anywhere outside the commie block suburb where you're currently at. You're basically at the worst place you could possibly be. Of course they always tell foreigners to live in multi culti shitholes because muh reysist Swedes.
Swedes will respect you if you behave and respect them. Earn your respect.
This is exactly why I'd consider even a crime ridden South American country over Europe, at least people are too busy robbing and killing each other to be woke. I'm going to be relatively sane though and visit Hungary and Poland though and I think that's something other non-woke people should try. Check out the night life and see if the millennials and zoomers are as insufferable as your home country.
I will say, in Sweden’s defense, that they had very minimal covid restrictions while Australia went full-imprisonment over covid. I know you’re a single-issue guy with women’s power, and while I would be concerned about both that and migration if I were OP, he definitely did trade up when it comes to medical tyranny.
Wait until you get a grenade attack
Damn I thought you were from my home town, it was nice knowing there was at least 1 based person walking past the pigs in the mall.
Honestly, I might still be, lol.
If you mean the literal pigs (you’ll know the ones. There is also a fish, from what I recall), then your guess was correct, lol! 😅
Or if you mean the gold pigs, then nah, but I have spent a bit of time there, haha.
Nice to know the same for you!
But yeah, now I’m almost literally as far away as one can get, geographically, lol…
But I imagine I’ll be back at some point!
Gold pigs here.
There's a reason Northern Swedes hate the southern.
So you got out of Australia? Nice!
Funny you should mention that because as much as I've come to dislike Tim Pool due to his personal dramas. He does seem to have a valid point about Sweden because he was pointing out how creepy he found it.
He walked right into the worst neighborhood in the country, filming, which is considered very offensive in islam. At least he got out alive, if you walk into an actual no-go zone offending the locals, chances are you'll end up dead.
Having said all that, I think it should be reasonably easy to get laid, here, as a fairly confident, outgoing, non-blonde…
They’re not used to it at all, lol.
So if that’s your thing, I guess it’s… Not bad. 🤷🏻♂️
From experience, I probably wouldn’t marry a Swede, though, so there’s that, too.
Eh.
Don't be a left wing slut and sleep around. That's a liberal mentality. Stability and reliabile relationships is better.
Just tell the ladies you're an Aussie who speaks Italics.
Their women definitely fuck.
But their breakfast food sucks.
Fair trade?
Everyone thinks that others are the conformists. Folks around me claim that Americans are very conformist, while Americans think that Europeans are very conformist.
That said, everyone can agree that the Germans are the worst.
leftism is definitionally conformist. that's how feminism works.
I think Sweden is probably more “conformist” than Germany, though, tbh…
Swedes seem much, much more like their stereotype, as a whole, than Germans do…
Perhaps because there is 80 million Germans, and only 10 million Swedes…
But who knows.
I'm not an expert on Swedes, but I think for Swedes it comes from within, while in Germany it's obedience to authority.
I’m currently sitting in a pub hanging out with Swiss and Austrians, because we all realized we are more “normal” than the Swedes surrounding us, ha…
It’s a strange vibe.
But admittedly, these a) are not Germans, and b) none of us are from here, so…
I guess that’s a factor.
Genuine question, why would you do something this retarded? Were you led on to believe Sweden was great or did you just take your chance with it?
The Nordic model is shit because it is indeed shit, it only breeds socially retarded people and entitled feminists.
The rudeness of the scum immigrants feels intentional because it is intentional, these animals know that western and Nordic countries are too pussified to do anything about their behavior, and anyone who stands up to them is deemed a fascist enemy of the state for standing up for what was once his country.
I'm not sure what exactly were you seeking nor expecting to find in the birthplace of most woke ideals and movements, it's unreal how much I hate Sweden.
Best adjusting you can do is buying a plane ticket to wherever and getting the fuck out of that feminist shithole.
Cause he came from somewhere even worse.
That would be the US...
Post Reported for: Rule 16 - Identity attacks
Post Approved: I don't see how. You don't have to like Sweeden.
How difficult is the language barrier?
I think they're all fluent in English
Most Swedes who aren't retarded have speaking proficiency in English
Nonexistent, for like, 95% of the people you meet (immigrants excepted).
They just hate talking. And helping. And customer service.
So they can speak English. They just choose not to talk to you.
So kind of like France, except that Swedes hate talking in any language, including their own…
Tis a strange vibe, to say the least.
Be careful thinking people know English well. Most swedes speak it to some degree, and because of Germanic roots they speak English with very little accent. That being said, in my experience living there and dating a swede, the good pronunciation often makes you think they know English to a higher level than what they really do.
Keep that in mind next time you speak to a swede. Really dig into their words and determine how much they really know vs how well they pronounce words.