Young people tend to be left precisely because the academy brainwashes them. People drift right as they age because they are unplugged from the unrelenting leftward push of schools, although social media now allows a similar level of indoctrination anywhere in the world at all times.
Well this, but also because leftism is a childish ideology. At its core its just wanting a big government parent running their lives. Leftoids never mature past that phase.
Young people tend towards the left because they have the youthful desire to change the world for the better. People become more conservative as they age.
"Better" doesn't inherently mean leftism, in fact it is quite the opposite. Only years of intense indoctrination could convince people that their natural instincts and basic pattern recognition are bad. The young are also desperately vying for social status and have been conditioned that best way to achieve that is by being grotesque. Uncle Ted addresses the co-opting of the impulse to rebel better than I can.
They are also easily disproven by using one's eyes. Leftist ideas can only be sustained in a large chunk of the population by making observable reality socially unacceptable.
Isn't the over-socialization he talks about largely to blame? And isn't that an inevitability in cities, with technology, and of course more and more society managed and regulated? I guess that's what you're saying with the social status / conditioning. I wonder if it wasn't universities would it naturally be some other institution brainwashing them.
if it wasn't universities would it naturally be some other institution brainwashing them
Absolutely, that's a basic premise of Deleuzian territorialization. There's nothing inherently preventing them from being indoctrinated into nationalism or tradcath or christnat. It would be easier actually because that doesn't require pretending men can be women or drug addled criminals aren't dangerous.
Dems also advertise on television targeting children. Which is weird since they can’t vote. When I was in elementary school we had an “election” where we were voting for the president. I had only ever heard of the dem candidates and they never covered policies or what those would even mean to a 5 year old to 10 year old. The dem candidate won by a large number. The dem candidate also appeared in commercials frequently on Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network and Disney channel.
Nickelodeon holds a "Kids Pick the President" event in presidential election years. It used to a pretty good predictor of the actual winner. Then they got caught rigging their fake election against Trump. I know they do it to convince kids that all the other kids are Democrats, but it's really fucking sick that they won't run an honest election even when it doesn't count.
Is the problem that the younger vote trends progressive, or is it that young conservative or libertarian voters are so thoroughly blackpilled, that they won't go to the polls and vote? Of course the younger progressives will go and vote, after all they have to keep the free gibs going, but maybe younger non-progressives don't see how anything benefits thselves personally (yes I realize that is an incredibly shortsighted posistion).
Historically this has been the opposite. Young progressives wont vote while young conservatives do. Its why leftists have to go so hard with reminding everyone to vote while conservatives just do it.
I wonder if that has changed? I'm just looking at it from the ways things are now, with the Republicans seeming feckless and impotent now (I don't totally agree with that perception).
Social media. Google and Facebook know if a person is Republican or Democrat leaning. They have been spamming Democrats with reminders to go vote with notifications and every time they open up their app.
How many reminders from big tech did you get when you are probably a known right winger.
Oh I wasn't disagreeing about the progressives spamming their followers with reminders to go vote. What I meant was more along the lines of the "Young progressives won't vote while young conservatives do." has that changed, and are young conservatives just staying home.
As far as reminders from big tech, I didn't get any; but then again they already know that I'm an evil, racist, misoginazi anyways.
Again, not significantly different from what I've said over the several years.
This is a dramatic improvement from the trend of what should have happened. Obviously, the kids by going through public schooling are Left wing. However, the trend should actually be a significantly larger left-wing majority than it already is. The shocker is that each generation is typically closer to 20 points more left wing than the previous one. All indications suggest Gen Z is either as Leftist or slightly more Leftist at 18 than Millennial were. That, in and of itself, is a massive cultural sea-change.
Hell, 9% black Youth Republican? That's enormous by comparison. The average for black women is likely far lower than that.
Correct me if I'm wrong but it feels like you're using this to say 'Take that, Conpro! Your politics are wrong and mine are right!'
But how does this prove that racial nationalism doesn't work? Nobody ran on a racial nationalist platform. It isn't even part of mainstream consciousness, unless you count anti-CRT and anti-affirmative action efforts. Or Democrats calling everything white supremacy.
I'm genuinely curious, what specific tenet of racial nationalism do you think these numbers refute? Because we all agree the the leftist brainwashing of our kids needs to be stopped. That would be part of a racial nationalist agenda just like it's part of yours.
Because, left to women's indoctrination, all the kids are doomed. White or not.
Left to progressive indoctrination, a large amount of which does come from women, all the kids are doomed. I agree.
There is no racial solidarity, Team Women are playing for keeps.
There is racial solidarity among every race that is not white.
Women do have a huge ingroup preference and they clamor for policies which benefit them at the expense of men, children, and countries themselves. That is true.
None of this proves that racial nationalism doesn't work. Reversing the damage done by feminism is vital and so is encouraging white people to have a shared identity and a healthy self interest in a world where cohesive identity groups are aligning against them.
You're right about women to a degree but your rigidity blinds you to other, very real, concerns. You spend an inestimable amount of mental energy on combative attempts to disprove any notion that doesn't paint women as the sole perpetrators of society's problems. That said, some people here needle you on a daily basis, which is dumb, and I've noticed myself going out of my way to argue with you a few times.
Anyway, my point being: women, specifically feminists, are a major problem. But more than one thing can be true.
White people become more right-wing when they age by a large margin. Blacks barely do. Hispanics don't change. Somehow this refute racial nationalism.
Younger people have been trending liberal for a long time. The white ones becoming conservative as they age is the only reason Republicans haven't been completely wiped, but don't worry Republican loyalists.
The GOP will eventually respond to poor electoral performance by becoming more anti-white in order to get the votes of replacement Americans. It's white people whose future is in long term jeopardy, not so much the precious red team.
I guarantee that in 50 years, white women will have the same or better standard of life relative to now.
I doubt it. They'll have a much better standard of life than men but the policies they vote for/implement will make life worse for everyone, including them.
They might think their standard of life is better, because they're always chasing false ideals.
You mean like they became anti-male in the last election cycle to pander to women?
This didn't happen, unless you consider anti-tranny to be anti-male. Maybe you are talking about the draft, but male-only draft has been a long-standing historical norm. It's not something Republicans "became" during this election cycle.
I guarantee that in 50 years, white women will have the same or better standard of life relative to now.
I know young people tend to be left (the whole Churchill quote) but definitely the school system brainwashes.
Young people tend to be left precisely because the academy brainwashes them. People drift right as they age because they are unplugged from the unrelenting leftward push of schools, although social media now allows a similar level of indoctrination anywhere in the world at all times.
Well this, but also because leftism is a childish ideology. At its core its just wanting a big government parent running their lives. Leftoids never mature past that phase.
Young people tend towards the left because they have the youthful desire to change the world for the better. People become more conservative as they age.
"Better" doesn't inherently mean leftism, in fact it is quite the opposite. Only years of intense indoctrination could convince people that their natural instincts and basic pattern recognition are bad. The young are also desperately vying for social status and have been conditioned that best way to achieve that is by being grotesque. Uncle Ted addresses the co-opting of the impulse to rebel better than I can.
Leftist talking points are easy to fall into
And so on. It's easy.
They are also easily disproven by using one's eyes. Leftist ideas can only be sustained in a large chunk of the population by making observable reality socially unacceptable.
Teens are impulsive, I guess.
That takes life experience. It's easy to fool teens.
Isn't the over-socialization he talks about largely to blame? And isn't that an inevitability in cities, with technology, and of course more and more society managed and regulated? I guess that's what you're saying with the social status / conditioning. I wonder if it wasn't universities would it naturally be some other institution brainwashing them.
Absolutely, that's a basic premise of Deleuzian territorialization. There's nothing inherently preventing them from being indoctrinated into nationalism or tradcath or christnat. It would be easier actually because that doesn't require pretending men can be women or drug addled criminals aren't dangerous.
The school system has been brainwashing kids since the 1800s.
Yeah. I remember when I was younger, I was pretty
retardedleft.Luckily, i didn't give a fuckin about voting tho, so at least I didn't contribute in putting fags like Obama in power.
Dems also advertise on television targeting children. Which is weird since they can’t vote. When I was in elementary school we had an “election” where we were voting for the president. I had only ever heard of the dem candidates and they never covered policies or what those would even mean to a 5 year old to 10 year old. The dem candidate won by a large number. The dem candidate also appeared in commercials frequently on Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network and Disney channel.
FTFY. Why the Demorats have been pushing for ages 16-18 kids to go vote.
Mate, in the US election, people who haven't been born yet, people have have been dead for many years, and even people who don't exist, vote.
Am Australian. Went to a private school. We also did this, except in Primary school we elected, uhh, Greens I suppose…
Same idea, different parties, other side of the world.
This is not just an American thing…
Nickelodeon holds a "Kids Pick the President" event in presidential election years. It used to a pretty good predictor of the actual winner. Then they got caught rigging their fake election against Trump. I know they do it to convince kids that all the other kids are Democrats, but it's really fucking sick that they won't run an honest election even when it doesn't count.
Is the problem that the younger vote trends progressive, or is it that young conservative or libertarian voters are so thoroughly blackpilled, that they won't go to the polls and vote? Of course the younger progressives will go and vote, after all they have to keep the free gibs going, but maybe younger non-progressives don't see how anything benefits thselves personally (yes I realize that is an incredibly shortsighted posistion).
Historically this has been the opposite. Young progressives wont vote while young conservatives do. Its why leftists have to go so hard with reminding everyone to vote while conservatives just do it.
I wonder if that has changed? I'm just looking at it from the ways things are now, with the Republicans seeming feckless and impotent now (I don't totally agree with that perception).
Social media. Google and Facebook know if a person is Republican or Democrat leaning. They have been spamming Democrats with reminders to go vote with notifications and every time they open up their app.
How many reminders from big tech did you get when you are probably a known right winger.
Oh I wasn't disagreeing about the progressives spamming their followers with reminders to go vote. What I meant was more along the lines of the "Young progressives won't vote while young conservatives do." has that changed, and are young conservatives just staying home. As far as reminders from big tech, I didn't get any; but then again they already know that I'm an evil, racist, misoginazi anyways.
And of those white youth, they are either incredibly woke or incredibly nationalist. I know from personal experience.
We're going to have to kill them.
Soy infused faggots.
Anyone remember that crap?
I got downvoted a ton for saying that Gen Z is not going to be RW and that people were just looking for confirmation anywhere they could find it.
Again, not significantly different from what I've said over the several years.
This is a dramatic improvement from the trend of what should have happened. Obviously, the kids by going through public schooling are Left wing. However, the trend should actually be a significantly larger left-wing majority than it already is. The shocker is that each generation is typically closer to 20 points more left wing than the previous one. All indications suggest Gen Z is either as Leftist or slightly more Leftist at 18 than Millennial were. That, in and of itself, is a massive cultural sea-change.
Hell, 9% black Youth Republican? That's enormous by comparison. The average for black women is likely far lower than that.
"Mission accomplished."
I converted my daughter to right wing thinking simply by explaining how much tax will come out of her pay cheque
Is there any data comparing this to what millennials and Gen X were like in terms of the percentage breakdowns.
Two of those groups are unnecessary for the continuance of the nation. Of the other, I'll happily take forty percent.
500000 days to count the vote
here is how the kiddos vote.
this data is not believable
Wasn't that so that old Russian parents saw their own children turn Bolshevik for similar reasons?
What racial nationalism?
Correct me if I'm wrong but it feels like you're using this to say 'Take that, Conpro! Your politics are wrong and mine are right!'
But how does this prove that racial nationalism doesn't work? Nobody ran on a racial nationalist platform. It isn't even part of mainstream consciousness, unless you count anti-CRT and anti-affirmative action efforts. Or Democrats calling everything white supremacy.
I'm genuinely curious, what specific tenet of racial nationalism do you think these numbers refute? Because we all agree the the leftist brainwashing of our kids needs to be stopped. That would be part of a racial nationalist agenda just like it's part of yours.
Left to progressive indoctrination, a large amount of which does come from women, all the kids are doomed. I agree.
There is racial solidarity among every race that is not white.
Women do have a huge ingroup preference and they clamor for policies which benefit them at the expense of men, children, and countries themselves. That is true.
None of this proves that racial nationalism doesn't work. Reversing the damage done by feminism is vital and so is encouraging white people to have a shared identity and a healthy self interest in a world where cohesive identity groups are aligning against them.
You're right about women to a degree but your rigidity blinds you to other, very real, concerns. You spend an inestimable amount of mental energy on combative attempts to disprove any notion that doesn't paint women as the sole perpetrators of society's problems. That said, some people here needle you on a daily basis, which is dumb, and I've noticed myself going out of my way to argue with you a few times.
Anyway, my point being: women, specifically feminists, are a major problem. But more than one thing can be true.
White people become more right-wing when they age by a large margin. Blacks barely do. Hispanics don't change. Somehow this refute racial nationalism.
Younger people have been trending liberal for a long time. The white ones becoming conservative as they age is the only reason Republicans haven't been completely wiped, but don't worry Republican loyalists.
The GOP will eventually respond to poor electoral performance by becoming more anti-white in order to get the votes of replacement Americans. It's white people whose future is in long term jeopardy, not so much the precious red team.
I doubt it. They'll have a much better standard of life than men but the policies they vote for/implement will make life worse for everyone, including them.
They might think their standard of life is better, because they're always chasing false ideals.
This didn't happen, unless you consider anti-tranny to be anti-male. Maybe you are talking about the draft, but male-only draft has been a long-standing historical norm. It's not something Republicans "became" during this election cycle.
I doubt it.
https://www.inquisitr.com/3014229/life-expectancy-for-white-women-decline/
Notice that he completely dodged your comment about him being gay.