Justified violence against women is a necessary and natural thing to keep them in line, and suppressing it leads to societal collapse as we are now seeing. Women can't always be reasoned with, ergo the need to physically discipline them.
There's a reason why men - the rational sex - are stronger than women.
Not even just women. But everyone. Every animal in the world keeps their own kind in line. This is what happens when someone is given free reign to avoid discipline and responsibility AND use it as a defense against even that being corrected.
It's Not a gendered thing because men correct and discipline each other all the time. Women do too (in extremely toxic ways, then conveniently ignore it.)
That has already happened. A boy falsely accused of rape committed suicide, and a year later his mother did. Folks who knew her said that she lost all will to life after it happened.
Suicide is the worst thing you can do. There are so many better ways to die, if you have to. If someone had maliciously made my life such hell that I didn't want to be alive anymore, I certainly wouldn't kill myself.
If someone had maliciously made my life such hell that I didn't want to be alive anymore, I certainly wouldn't kill myself.
Yeah if someone drives you to that point, you kill THEM not yourself. Gotta go all Christopher Dorner.
If I bathed in the blood of my enemies, I wouldn't mind the taxpayer paying to take care of me in prison the rest of my life. Better than killing yourself. At least you get to read books and watch tv.
Not to worry. Allah Azzawajal will make them virgin after every incident of yours.
But you have to marry them first every time, before you're allowed access, after which you're immediately separated. That's a special reward designed for you, who in life loved marriage so much.
I find it hilarious that you never make the accusation. You're always angry at the female users here who are much nicer to you, but never at me for some reason.
It's more like "There's no way to prove this either way without doxxing, so I have to take the user's word for it.".
Yes, like I said, you're believing women. How good of you.
GC trash aren't people
See, she was in GG before you, and before me I believe. And I also posted on GC before they banned me for having a male username. They unfortunately do not listen and believe.
Ask the mods of TiA, who banned me for saying exactly that.
Euro: "I can't believe those crazy Americans want guns to be LEGAL!"
AoV: It's a different country. Much less population density. Police are often not nearby in rural areas, so you need to be able to defend yourself rather than rely on them.
There's a LOT OF myths floating around about America here. People actually unironically assert that in America it's a principle of law that you are guilty until you're found innocent.
Actually, that's not a bad thing, because I can use bias against America to turn people against wokeism. I just point out that it comes from America. The most effective argument.
People actually unironically assert that in America it's a principle of law that you are guilty until you're found innocent.
Sadly in very liberal areas dealing with perceived right wing defendants like Rittenhouse or the McCloskeys, it does indeed seem to be the case. But if you're black in those same areas, you can just do whatever you want and even if you get arrested, they just let you right back out on the street.
I can use bias against America to turn people against wokeism.
I think that is great and all, but don't forget that plenty of Americans are fighting wokeness from the inside as well. MAGA was also a rejection of wokeism.
Sadly in very liberal areas dealing with perceived right wing defendants like Rittenhouse or the McCloskeys, it does indeed seem to be the case. But if you're black in those same areas, you can just do whatever you want and even if you get arrested, they just let you right back out on the street.
The thing is, the propaganda here will have you believe the exact opposite. That Rittenhouse was acquitted because he was 'white'. By the way, the article which said that, claimed that the "judge" had acquitted him. So either they're lying, or they know nothing of the Murican system, or both!
I think that is great and all, but don't forget that plenty of Americans are fighting wokeness from the inside as well. MAGA was also a rejection of wokeism.
I am aware, and I don't hate the country and the people. But I will oppose the extension of American influence, because under Trump or Biden, American influence means wokeness.
There was a New Yorker article that was fairly similar to this one, at least in the outcome: witch-hunts against a boy who admittedly had done something wrong (showing naked pictures of his girlfriend to his friends), but the reaction was pretty crazy: a multi-year harassment campaign, which targeted not just him, but everyone who would associate with him.
There is a great need to reintroduce consequences for such things. I know I wouldn't stand by and be innocently accused of rape, nor allow such a thing for my son. I think proven rapists deserve the death penalty. So do people of whom it is absolutely certain that they are lying.
The modern West has lost all civilizational vitality, which is why we get this sort of thing. Innocent people are falsely accused of rape, and do absolutely nothing, elites are demolishing our countries, and the people do absolutely nothing. The light will soon go out.
Furthermore, even if lying about rape were very rare in times when it had negative consequences for women, it does not automatically mean that it will remain very low if you drastically change the incentive structure.
When did it have negative consequences for women? Was it during the time of the America Cival Rights era? Or was it during the witch trials in Salem? Or was it during biblical times?
Women never had negative consequences for crying rape. False accusations were dialed back somewhat when western society had a justice system with strong principles like innocent until proven guilty, proof beyond a reasonable doubt and due process. In the context of history that is only a blink of an eye.
Women never had negative consequences for crying rape.
They consider being questioned and having to testify or even remember it a negative consequence, and even abusive police tactics.
That's where the foundation of the argument is. That having to go through the legal process is evil and they shouldn't have any of that. Just point, accuse, jail or else its punishing women.
It's funny because my CJ book yester year had that stat then a while later #metoo happened and suddenly false accusations were supposed to be super rare
One of these days I should post my own story but not sure how much of a doc it would be. I have had less severe but still social and reputation damage from the shit that happened to me.
Sorry, tradcucks support the death penalty, and tradcucks also support the lex talionis. Which means that if you falsely make an accusation, you get the punishment that you intended for your victim. Since tradcucks support the death penalty for rape, I'm sure you can put two and two together.
A few executions of women, or miniature ones, for demonstrably, provably, knowingly making false accusations, and such things will, no pun intended, die down.
I don’t think you get the "cuck" part of tradcuck. A tradcuck is all about "muh tradition" EXCEPT for holding women accountable. Tradcucks fully support the 1st, the 2nd (except for abortion) and the 3rd wave of feminism and only oppose the post-2012 tumblrina 4th wave of feminism.
That's just called a social liberal. How is that in any way 'trad'?
Because they also still follow the "trad" lifestyle and desires, nuclear family, one works, one cares, 2.4 kids, church and prayer, gun ownership, "don't step on me", patriotism, military service praise. They are trad cucks because they say one thing and do another, they hold diametrically opposed lifestyles and choices. They CALL themselves traditionalists.
Where as a social liberal would call themselves a liberal...
250,000 years. Traditionalism is nothing but the recognition of what nature itself has implanted on the minds of all.
It wouldn't die down, they'd just be less brazen.
They do it because they can. The solution is to prevent them from being able to do that. The Gretas of the world force their families to become vegan, because they can. If they did that in a house where the result would be a slap, then they would learn to behave themselves.
They're very obvious about it because they are practically untouchable.
Look at the abortion thing. As soon as they had their first setback, they were so terrified that they were even refusing to carry out perfectly legal abortions.
If they lost that, they'd just keep doing it, but with plausible deniability in every step.
And trads will take care of that when the situation arises. After all, we're not useless like you. We actually fix things, which is why every successful civilization in history has been traditionalist.
I'm talking about the people who want to go back to two kids, a housewife and a picket fence in their idyllic 1950s fantasy.
That will be the end result. But you have to remember that the 1950s allowed for the 1960s, and the present disaster. Any time you want to restore something, you have to account for that.
They have been posting guides on how to illegally acquire misoprostol and other things like it. Their public position is that they are scared, their private position is one of defiance, that the feminist puppet organisations like YouTube will back them up.
Posting guides is not illegal. Yes, part of the 'acting scared' is just in order to create a backlash, but I have no doubt at all that these organizations are extremely risk-averse. Have you ever seen SJWs do anything risky? Or even something that does not get them plaudits from their fellow lowlifes?
I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to possess things like the Anarchist's Cookbook and guides to 3D printing guns.
It is not illegal in the USA. Nor should it be illegal.
Not holding feminists accountable for this harm now will end up with us right back here in a few decades. This ends when it's treated as the threat it is.
Those contradictions are because that's what a tradcuck IS.
Imagine someone who wants the 2.4 nuclear family, picket fences house, mortgage, gun rights patriotism, church and prayer, following the Bible scripture. But then acts in contrary to all of that whilst bemoaning the death of traditionalism.
To cuck means in essence to give up on your own desires and best interests, to allow others to void things you hold dear.
In the case of a trad cuck, it's wanting a traditional life, while doing everything that prevents it.
I'm going to disagree, not because those people don't exist (I mean, the entire alt right grift sphere is proof), but because nothing he says makes sense. Those are contradictions I can follow and understand the hypocrisy of.
His tradcucks are just boogeymen that keep popping up to do things that have no grounding and exist entirely to support his fantasy reality.
Let's not forget having children, or that not wanting to genocide women have also been called tradcuck by him in the past. Which is why I pointed it out.
it's like how we can't talk about mgm because MUH FGM OOOHHHHHH SO TERRIBLE
Justified violence against women is a necessary and natural thing to keep them in line, and suppressing it leads to societal collapse as we are now seeing. Women can't always be reasoned with, ergo the need to physically discipline them.
There's a reason why men - the rational sex - are stronger than women.
Not even just women. But everyone. Every animal in the world keeps their own kind in line. This is what happens when someone is given free reign to avoid discipline and responsibility AND use it as a defense against even that being corrected.
It's Not a gendered thing because men correct and discipline each other all the time. Women do too (in extremely toxic ways, then conveniently ignore it.)
At some point, the wrong kid is going to commit suicide, and one of their grieving parents will see no point left in "common law justice."
That has already happened. A boy falsely accused of rape committed suicide, and a year later his mother did. Folks who knew her said that she lost all will to life after it happened.
Suicide is the worst thing you can do. There are so many better ways to die, if you have to. If someone had maliciously made my life such hell that I didn't want to be alive anymore, I certainly wouldn't kill myself.
That's even more depressing, and not the outcome I was hinting at.
I know.
Yeah if someone drives you to that point, you kill THEM not yourself. Gotta go all Christopher Dorner.
If I bathed in the blood of my enemies, I wouldn't mind the taxpayer paying to take care of me in prison the rest of my life. Better than killing yourself. At least you get to read books and watch tv.
I am fully aware.
Not unheard of :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd
Every episode ends up like this.
More like a Memri TV debate.
Fuck it, I'd watch. kek
I found the original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3fTy2nNVaw
I bet you like this version less (also don't read the comments).
Nonsense. Impy would never say that all women are queens.
For you, Hell has 72 virgin queens.
Elizabeth, Catherine the Great, Daenerys Targaryen.
Not to worry. Allah Azzawajal will make them virgin after every incident of yours.
But you have to marry them first every time, before you're allowed access, after which you're immediately separated. That's a special reward designed for you, who in life loved marriage so much.
Seriously they need to get a room and hatefuck each other at this point.
Mom and dad are fighting again... 🙄
I find it hilarious that you never make the accusation. You're always angry at the female users here who are much nicer to you, but never at me for some reason.
Good, you're believing women. Nice. Listen and believe.
You were also angry at NPerez and flipping out completely. Fun fact: when you were still on Reddit, she was actually defending you in PMs to me.
Yes, like I said, you're believing women. How good of you.
See, she was in GG before you, and before me I believe. And I also posted on GC before they banned me for having a male username. They unfortunately do not listen and believe.
Rightly so, as it's a sitewide violation.
AoV: America is the devil
Imp: No, WOMEN are the devil
It's funny that you think I'm super anti-American, but when talking to other people in Europe, I'm normally the one who has to defend America.
Defend America how?
Euro: We should gas all ze American
AoV: No need to kill them, just put them in the salt mines so they can't make woke netlfix shows anymore
LOL!
No, I mean something like:
Euro: "I can't believe those crazy Americans want guns to be LEGAL!"
AoV: It's a different country. Much less population density. Police are often not nearby in rural areas, so you need to be able to defend yourself rather than rely on them.
There's a LOT OF myths floating around about America here. People actually unironically assert that in America it's a principle of law that you are guilty until you're found innocent.
Actually, that's not a bad thing, because I can use bias against America to turn people against wokeism. I just point out that it comes from America. The most effective argument.
Sadly in very liberal areas dealing with perceived right wing defendants like Rittenhouse or the McCloskeys, it does indeed seem to be the case. But if you're black in those same areas, you can just do whatever you want and even if you get arrested, they just let you right back out on the street.
I think that is great and all, but don't forget that plenty of Americans are fighting wokeness from the inside as well. MAGA was also a rejection of wokeism.
The thing is, the propaganda here will have you believe the exact opposite. That Rittenhouse was acquitted because he was 'white'. By the way, the article which said that, claimed that the "judge" had acquitted him. So either they're lying, or they know nothing of the Murican system, or both!
I am aware, and I don't hate the country and the people. But I will oppose the extension of American influence, because under Trump or Biden, American influence means wokeness.
There was a New Yorker article that was fairly similar to this one, at least in the outcome: witch-hunts against a boy who admittedly had done something wrong (showing naked pictures of his girlfriend to his friends), but the reaction was pretty crazy: a multi-year harassment campaign, which targeted not just him, but everyone who would associate with him.
There is a great need to reintroduce consequences for such things. I know I wouldn't stand by and be innocently accused of rape, nor allow such a thing for my son. I think proven rapists deserve the death penalty. So do people of whom it is absolutely certain that they are lying.
The modern West has lost all civilizational vitality, which is why we get this sort of thing. Innocent people are falsely accused of rape, and do absolutely nothing, elites are demolishing our countries, and the people do absolutely nothing. The light will soon go out.
The idea that women don't lie about rape is a pure lie and power play by feminists and their male simps.
Studies have shown that 40%+ of rape accusations are false.
Furthermore, even if lying about rape were very rare in times when it had negative consequences for women, it does not automatically mean that it will remain very low if you drastically change the incentive structure.
When did it have negative consequences for women? Was it during the time of the America Cival Rights era? Or was it during the witch trials in Salem? Or was it during biblical times?
Women never had negative consequences for crying rape. False accusations were dialed back somewhat when western society had a justice system with strong principles like innocent until proven guilty, proof beyond a reasonable doubt and due process. In the context of history that is only a blink of an eye.
They consider being questioned and having to testify or even remember it a negative consequence, and even abusive police tactics.
That's where the foundation of the argument is. That having to go through the legal process is evil and they shouldn't have any of that. Just point, accuse, jail or else its punishing women.
The penalty for a false rape accusation was literally death in many places.
Many places being just Islamic countries, no?
No, including medieval Europe. It's amazing just how ignorant of history people are who assert that this was "NEVER" the case.
Very few women are willing to lie about rape, like less than 5%
But also very few men are willing to COMMIT rape, less than 5%
So the numbers balance out, and the false accusers and actual rapists exist in somewhat similar numbers.
It's funny because my CJ book yester year had that stat then a while later #metoo happened and suddenly false accusations were supposed to be super rare
liberals seize control and pervert all sources of information the moment they think it matters for their cause.
they just can't be everywhere at the same time, so there are certain issues that slip under their radar.
notice how the Biden admin stopped publishing crime stats now that everyone says 13/54 and such.
This reminds me of the Mean Girls case where 4[?] girls accused some nerdy kid they never interacted with of rape because they didn't like him.
The original Mean Girls seem like Pleasant Girls in comparison to what we have today.
One of these days I should post my own story but not sure how much of a doc it would be. I have had less severe but still social and reputation damage from the shit that happened to me.
All of your posts are so depressing.
Sorry, tradcucks support the death penalty, and tradcucks also support the lex talionis. Which means that if you falsely make an accusation, you get the punishment that you intended for your victim. Since tradcucks support the death penalty for rape, I'm sure you can put two and two together.
A few executions of women, or miniature ones, for demonstrably, provably, knowingly making false accusations, and such things will, no pun intended, die down.
That's just called a social liberal. How is that in any way 'trad'?
Because they also still follow the "trad" lifestyle and desires, nuclear family, one works, one cares, 2.4 kids, church and prayer, gun ownership, "don't step on me", patriotism, military service praise. They are trad cucks because they say one thing and do another, they hold diametrically opposed lifestyles and choices. They CALL themselves traditionalists.
Where as a social liberal would call themselves a liberal...
Lol dude you're conflating two very different groups
Or perhaps just perhaps... Ideological groups have overlapping aspects.
250,000 years. Traditionalism is nothing but the recognition of what nature itself has implanted on the minds of all.
They do it because they can. The solution is to prevent them from being able to do that. The Gretas of the world force their families to become vegan, because they can. If they did that in a house where the result would be a slap, then they would learn to behave themselves.
Look at the abortion thing. As soon as they had their first setback, they were so terrified that they were even refusing to carry out perfectly legal abortions.
And trads will take care of that when the situation arises. After all, we're not useless like you. We actually fix things, which is why every successful civilization in history has been traditionalist.
That will be the end result. But you have to remember that the 1950s allowed for the 1960s, and the present disaster. Any time you want to restore something, you have to account for that.
Posting guides is not illegal. Yes, part of the 'acting scared' is just in order to create a backlash, but I have no doubt at all that these organizations are extremely risk-averse. Have you ever seen SJWs do anything risky? Or even something that does not get them plaudits from their fellow lowlifes?
You just have to create the risks for them.
We'll end up right back here if we keep liberal philosophy, culture, and political and economic structures.
It is not illegal in the USA. Nor should it be illegal.
I agree.
I honestly want to know what a tradcuck is to you.
Because its covering so many contradicting positions and beliefs it would make a Feminist Strawman look tame.
Those contradictions are because that's what a tradcuck IS.
Imagine someone who wants the 2.4 nuclear family, picket fences house, mortgage, gun rights patriotism, church and prayer, following the Bible scripture. But then acts in contrary to all of that whilst bemoaning the death of traditionalism.
To cuck means in essence to give up on your own desires and best interests, to allow others to void things you hold dear.
In the case of a trad cuck, it's wanting a traditional life, while doing everything that prevents it.
I'm going to disagree, not because those people don't exist (I mean, the entire alt right grift sphere is proof), but because nothing he says makes sense. Those are contradictions I can follow and understand the hypocrisy of.
His tradcucks are just boogeymen that keep popping up to do things that have no grounding and exist entirely to support his fantasy reality.
Let's not forget having children, or that not wanting to genocide women have also been called tradcuck by him in the past. Which is why I pointed it out.
Are the tradcucks in the room with us rn