and that ‘native-born white people are being replaced by immigrants’ — a racist belief known as the ‘great replacement theory’.
... how is this a "conspiracy theory" when you have mainstream media celebrating the fact that they're successfully driving the "white" (again, this is a crap grouping, but that's not the point here) US and UK populations into extinction?
I can't understand why only 40% agree with it. The replacement is happening and Democrats at the very least are pushing for more immigration and calling white minority a good thing. What is the conspiracy theory here? Is just facts.
You have to keep in mind that probably 70% of people, if not more, don't actually believe most of the things they say. When they say "I don't believe that the great replacement is happening", what they're really saying is "I don't know anything about what you just said, but I have been instructed to respond in this particular way".
This goes well beyond NPCs. NPCs have no beliefs, period. But even most non-NPCs will still reliably fall back on shortcuts like seeking an authority figure to tell them what to say, because they either don't have the time or don't have the wherewithal to do the research and come to an independent conclusion.
I don't know if they mean "they agree with it" as in "they agree that it is a good thing and needs to be pushed" or if they mean "it exists"
More than 40 percent said having a ‘strong leader’ was more important than democracy and that ‘native-born white people are being replaced by immigrants’ — a racist belief known as the ‘great replacement theory’.
Okay so apparently they mean it does exist and it should be opposed. Which (apparently) is racist. I find it humorous that they just ascribe the "racist" appellation with no explanation why. "JUST BELIEVE YOU PLEBE"
Its not a theory at this point, its pretty obvious that rootless politicians in multiple nations are conspiring together to commit genocide against the native populations.
It's not racist, it's just a simple and unarguable truth. That's also not what "great replacement" is.
In order to make it "great replacement" you need to take an additional step and argue that it's being caused by an intentional conspiracy, usually the JOOOOS, being done on purpose to destroy the white race. If you merely believe that "native-born white people are being replaced by immigrants" because of natural demographic forces as opposed to a sinister conspiracy, then that's not great replacement.
Well, I don't think it's Da Jooz, but it's not natural forces. Both the US and UK governments are wilfully refusing to address the topic of mass immigration.
One presumes that this is because they're quite content to hazard their old populations to curry favour with the new ones. See Rotherham et al in the UK. Just point-blank refusing to deal with it because it's politically inconvenient - I mean, it's only white working class girls who are being raped on an industrial scale. Not like it's anyone that matters
Well, I don't think it's Da Jooz, but it's not natural forces.
Well ... then who is it?
Both the US and UK governments are wilfully[sic] refusing to address the topic of mass immigration.
And these governments are controlled by whom, exactly?
I'll save you the trouble.
It's the globalists/elites/illuminati ... or you can just stop with the blindfold & elephant and name them. Because it ultimately is those that shall not be named on pain of banhammer.
You can't reason with bloodthirsty commies. If anyone has any ideas on how to solve the culture war peacefully I'm all ears, but the guys I talk to about this stuff are all preparing for shit to kick off.
nearly a fifth expect they will choose to bring a gun to a violent political row
Forget the political part. Bringing a gun when things could get violent is just smart. I'm always armed when I go into a situation where I think there's potential for shit to go sideways.
We permitted an existential threat to grow in our midst and now we have to deal with it. It's like dealing with termites. The longer you wait to deal with the infestation, the more walls you're going to have to tear out.
If anyone has any ideas on how to solve the culture war peacefully I'm all ears
Yeah, crush them in the elections in 2022 and 2024 and then actually do a good job governing the country, and we will see a golden age where the voters stay anti-woke for 15-20 years.
American was a pretty solidly conservative country from 1980 to 2008, after being libtarded in the 60s and 70s. Giving the libtards power reminds everyone about how much they fuck everything up. Joe Biden is the new Jimmy Carter.
Joe Biden won in 2020, dude. Being delusional about it and refusing to accept it isn't going to help anything. He won the popular vote by over 7 million votes. The EC was much closer, but he still won a comfortable margin of states. Trump would have had to have swung like 4 states to change the outcome. [GA, AZ, PA & WIS] Saying that was Trump crushing Biden is just not reality.
All the "release the kraken" turned out to be total bullshit. None of the people talking about election fraud was ever able to provide proof of anything anywhere near big enough to swing the outcome. Even many Republicans had positions in the state governments and confirmed this. Even Republican appointed judges agreed the mass-fraud challenges were baseless.
If you truly believe what you wrote in your comment, you're going to be a very unhappy person, forever shouting and shaking your fist at the globalists without ever being able to contribute to helping the Right because you'll be too far out to the fringe for anyone to listen to you. People like me are trying to actually move the ball to the Right in a meaningful way, and that means I need to be very honest about reality and see the world how it truly is based on facts, not based on wild ideological assumptions. No amount of anger or outrage you might work yourself up into will ever mean anything as long as the only result is that you complain on an internet message board.
Meh, considering the fact there were in fact places with more than 100% turnout, there’s stuff that is very much fishy about it, but I get your point, that we need to move on from it, prevent it from happening again and in addition get more people in line with policy.
The >100% turnout is not really a good way to convince people, because the people that need convincing believe you're saying that's proof of cheating and so you're dumb because it includes same-day and some district somewhere actually had lots of growth and legitimately had >100% because of new voters.
And because "you're dumb" they'll ignore anything else you have to say, even that you know it includes new voters but that's still suspiciously high.
I think it's better to focus on the areas with 90% actual turnout, as in 90% of eligible voters voted. This is higher than countries like AU with mandatory voting and especially with dirty rolls is all but impossible.
I need to be very honest about reality and see the world how it truly is based on facts, not based on wild ideological assumptions.
What facts do you have that the election was not stolen? In other words, how do you - using facts - differentiate a stolen election from a legitimate Biden win?
The only "facts" that you presented so far are that some people who would benefit from cheating (neocons, democrats) said they didn't do it or didn't know about it and you trust them. As far as I'm aware, blind trust is the only evidence the election was not stolen.
Whereas the other side has Democrats with the trifecta of means, motive, and opportunity; means they created illegally against their state laws/constitutions (as seen in court rulings saying "just don't do it again" to dropboxes, curing, etc), massive motive from literally-hitler being in office for 4 years, and nobody watching them because of covid restrictions. Signaling they wanted to cheat, for example Pelosi trying to block ballot signature checks nationally. Biden saying they had the largest fraud organization. From what I can tell every historic indicator that's ever been previously talked about going for Trump, including bellwether counties perfectly predicting the wrong outcome with 19/20 going for Trump instead of winner like prior elections. Several canvasses showing large discrepancies in people who said they voted and people the state said voted. Cell phone tracking purported to show dropboxes being stuffed, along with rates of rejected ballots orders of magnitude less indicating signatures weren't checked. Actual video of one county fraudulently counting ballots. Democrats acting like they cheated, CO voter chief saying no recounts unless it's over her dead body, blocking windows, etc. ... and more.
You can poke some holes in that, like Biden probably did just misspeak, the GA fraud on video was only proof of one place, cell tracking data hasn't been made public and could very well be made up. But ultimately if you look at the forest, you have means/motive/opportunity instituting a mail-in voting system that's ripe for widespread cheating, that is nearly impossible to prove, and indicators that cheating happened.
Don't forget that Georgia precinct shutting down because of a burst pipe, this was reported live, then they said it was a flooded toilet and then they claimed none of that ever happened and they just shutdown because it was late
What facts do you have that the election was not stolen?
You need to prove it was stolen. I don't need to prove it was not stolen. The burden of proof is on the people claiming it was stolen. It's not guilty until proven innocent. The default state of US elections is not "stolen".
Donald Trump lied and claimed the election was stolen as a cynical political ploy because he was a sore loser. He was happy to try to tear down our democracy rather than admit he lost because he pissed off too many people with his tweets. Trump's lies caused Republicans to stay home in Georgia and cost us two senate seats, giving the Democrats full control of government, which allowed them to waste trillions of extra dollars once Biden took office.
The Republican Georgia Secretary of State conducted hundreds of investigations and found no widespread or significant voter fraud. Republicans were involved in various things like ballot supervision and inspection and all backed the legitimacy of the results.
All of the various attempts to prove voter fraud in the many lawsuits that were filed went nowhere because there was no proof of anything backing them.
The leading figures of "stop the steal" were all mentally unhinged lunatics.
Plus, the sheer number of votes that would have needed to be cheated would have been relatively easy to catch. It wasn't a handful of votes, it was hundreds of thousands of votes spread out over 3-4 states.
You need to prove it was stolen. I don't need to prove it was not stolen. The burden of proof is on the people claiming it was stolen. It's not guilty until proven innocent. The default state of US elections is not "stolen"
No, you need to prove it wasn't stolen. If Alex Jones wins 2024 with write-ins you wouldn't say "well we can't prove he didn't win legitimately". That's an absurd standard that you only have because you can't prove it wasn't stolen - not even at a preponderance of evidence standard.
This is the most fundamental requirement for an election is that everybody agrees it was fairly conducted; this is the source of all the democratic government's legitimacy.
And in your response we see that you have zero actual evidence it wasn't stolen other than blind trust - after saying you must base your decisions on facts only.
But someone carefully chose the scale on both of those Y axis variables to show something ... important! It's got to be true! Look where they intersect!
One of the comments, upvoted to 131 (13 downvotes):
Great Replacement is not a "theory." They've admitted it publicly, in books, at conferences, & in classrooms. That's like saying China's Belt & Road Initiative is just a "theory." Stupid.
Pretty sure usa will become balkanized. Pretty sure UN and NATO will help the commie bastards. Pretty sure china will help the commies too.
Looking at the map.. commies will control all the coastal states except the gulf states. California is probably the prized state on the west coast for the agriculture and ports. Probably need to expel the commies out of california. Hold onto the fly over states and gulf states.
This is encouraging. When the ongoing migration of patriotic Americans to red states slows or stops, then we'll see about the likelihood of armed conflict between the states.
I can't really see the possibility of armed conflict before then, simply because the right has no credible organizations equivalent to antifa or BLM, and if any do emerge they will immediately be the target of government agents and the propaganda wing of the DP.
When the left push too hard, the opposite reaction will happen and if it comes down to a war, the democrats will lose, just like thet lost the last civil war.
One only has to look as far back as the Spanish Civil War prior to WWII ... the United States is smack-dab in the middle of the lead-up of the same hyper-partisan politics that lead to brutal bloodshed.
I can only hope that the correct people win the war this time, but I'm afraid that the Soviets will be prodded by their jewish masters to commit more fratricide.
Why do Europeans put up with no free speech right, no right for self-defense, weak feckless leaders, the EU bureaucracy, and so on?
Because people's lives there are generally easy and without real hardship. Part of that is the march of technology, making people's lives easier in general.
So America will follow that model and just continue to weaken. Trannie bathrooms in Oklahomo and so on. There won't be a civil war or revolution until people face real hardship.
... how is this a "conspiracy theory" when you have mainstream media celebrating the fact that they're successfully driving the "white" (again, this is a crap grouping, but that's not the point here) US and UK populations into extinction?
I can't understand why only 40% agree with it. The replacement is happening and Democrats at the very least are pushing for more immigration and calling white minority a good thing. What is the conspiracy theory here? Is just facts.
You have to keep in mind that probably 70% of people, if not more, don't actually believe most of the things they say. When they say "I don't believe that the great replacement is happening", what they're really saying is "I don't know anything about what you just said, but I have been instructed to respond in this particular way".
This goes well beyond NPCs. NPCs have no beliefs, period. But even most non-NPCs will still reliably fall back on shortcuts like seeking an authority figure to tell them what to say, because they either don't have the time or don't have the wherewithal to do the research and come to an independent conclusion.
I don't know if they mean "they agree with it" as in "they agree that it is a good thing and needs to be pushed" or if they mean "it exists"
Okay so apparently they mean it does exist and it should be opposed. Which (apparently) is racist. I find it humorous that they just ascribe the "racist" appellation with no explanation why. "JUST BELIEVE YOU PLEBE"
Its not a theory at this point, its pretty obvious that rootless politicians in multiple nations are conspiring together to commit genocide against the native populations.
It's not racist, it's just a simple and unarguable truth. That's also not what "great replacement" is.
In order to make it "great replacement" you need to take an additional step and argue that it's being caused by an intentional conspiracy, usually the JOOOOS, being done on purpose to destroy the white race. If you merely believe that "native-born white people are being replaced by immigrants" because of natural demographic forces as opposed to a sinister conspiracy, then that's not great replacement.
Well, I don't think it's Da Jooz, but it's not natural forces. Both the US and UK governments are wilfully refusing to address the topic of mass immigration.
One presumes that this is because they're quite content to hazard their old populations to curry favour with the new ones. See Rotherham et al in the UK. Just point-blank refusing to deal with it because it's politically inconvenient - I mean, it's only white working class girls who are being raped on an industrial scale. Not like it's anyone that matters
Well ... then who is it?
And these governments are controlled by whom, exactly?
I'll save you the trouble.
It's the globalists/elites/illuminati ... or you can just stop with the blindfold & elephant and name them. Because it ultimately is those that shall not be named on pain of banhammer.
I thought it was a group of elites, not necessarily jews. Elites both political and private have been pushing for more immigration.
To be relevant for the study it should also clarify what the respondents think the great replacement theory is.
Either way is meaningless, the end result is the same and is being pushed by someone.
explain to me why i should be a minority in the country my ancestors shed blood, sweat, and tears to establish.
If you don't agree to your extinction, weak men and women are going to insult you.
"alarming" ?
Haha. That was my first thought. It's time for a reset, and I don't think it's going to happen at the ballot box.
Alarming, but not for us.
You can't reason with bloodthirsty commies. If anyone has any ideas on how to solve the culture war peacefully I'm all ears, but the guys I talk to about this stuff are all preparing for shit to kick off.
Forget the political part. Bringing a gun when things could get violent is just smart. I'm always armed when I go into a situation where I think there's potential for shit to go sideways.
There are no peaceful solutions.
We permitted an existential threat to grow in our midst and now we have to deal with it. It's like dealing with termites. The longer you wait to deal with the infestation, the more walls you're going to have to tear out.
Yeah, crush them in the elections in 2022 and 2024 and then actually do a good job governing the country, and we will see a golden age where the voters stay anti-woke for 15-20 years.
American was a pretty solidly conservative country from 1980 to 2008, after being libtarded in the 60s and 70s. Giving the libtards power reminds everyone about how much they fuck everything up. Joe Biden is the new Jimmy Carter.
Even though Bill Clinton was president in the 90s, he governed as a moderate and Gingrich had just as much power as he did, resulting in the only period of American fiscal responsibility in generations.
Joe Biden won in 2020, dude. Being delusional about it and refusing to accept it isn't going to help anything. He won the popular vote by over 7 million votes. The EC was much closer, but he still won a comfortable margin of states. Trump would have had to have swung like 4 states to change the outcome. [GA, AZ, PA & WIS] Saying that was Trump crushing Biden is just not reality.
All the "release the kraken" turned out to be total bullshit. None of the people talking about election fraud was ever able to provide proof of anything anywhere near big enough to swing the outcome. Even many Republicans had positions in the state governments and confirmed this. Even Republican appointed judges agreed the mass-fraud challenges were baseless.
If you truly believe what you wrote in your comment, you're going to be a very unhappy person, forever shouting and shaking your fist at the globalists without ever being able to contribute to helping the Right because you'll be too far out to the fringe for anyone to listen to you. People like me are trying to actually move the ball to the Right in a meaningful way, and that means I need to be very honest about reality and see the world how it truly is based on facts, not based on wild ideological assumptions. No amount of anger or outrage you might work yourself up into will ever mean anything as long as the only result is that you complain on an internet message board.
Meh, considering the fact there were in fact places with more than 100% turnout, there’s stuff that is very much fishy about it, but I get your point, that we need to move on from it, prevent it from happening again and in addition get more people in line with policy.
The >100% turnout is not really a good way to convince people, because the people that need convincing believe you're saying that's proof of cheating and so you're dumb because it includes same-day and some district somewhere actually had lots of growth and legitimately had >100% because of new voters.
And because "you're dumb" they'll ignore anything else you have to say, even that you know it includes new voters but that's still suspiciously high.
I think it's better to focus on the areas with 90% actual turnout, as in 90% of eligible voters voted. This is higher than countries like AU with mandatory voting and especially with dirty rolls is all but impossible.
What facts do you have that the election was not stolen? In other words, how do you - using facts - differentiate a stolen election from a legitimate Biden win?
The only "facts" that you presented so far are that some people who would benefit from cheating (neocons, democrats) said they didn't do it or didn't know about it and you trust them. As far as I'm aware, blind trust is the only evidence the election was not stolen.
Whereas the other side has Democrats with the trifecta of means, motive, and opportunity; means they created illegally against their state laws/constitutions (as seen in court rulings saying "just don't do it again" to dropboxes, curing, etc), massive motive from literally-hitler being in office for 4 years, and nobody watching them because of covid restrictions. Signaling they wanted to cheat, for example Pelosi trying to block ballot signature checks nationally. Biden saying they had the largest fraud organization. From what I can tell every historic indicator that's ever been previously talked about going for Trump, including bellwether counties perfectly predicting the wrong outcome with 19/20 going for Trump instead of winner like prior elections. Several canvasses showing large discrepancies in people who said they voted and people the state said voted. Cell phone tracking purported to show dropboxes being stuffed, along with rates of rejected ballots orders of magnitude less indicating signatures weren't checked. Actual video of one county fraudulently counting ballots. Democrats acting like they cheated, CO voter chief saying no recounts unless it's over her dead body, blocking windows, etc. ... and more.
You can poke some holes in that, like Biden probably did just misspeak, the GA fraud on video was only proof of one place, cell tracking data hasn't been made public and could very well be made up. But ultimately if you look at the forest, you have means/motive/opportunity instituting a mail-in voting system that's ripe for widespread cheating, that is nearly impossible to prove, and indicators that cheating happened.
Don't forget that Georgia precinct shutting down because of a burst pipe, this was reported live, then they said it was a flooded toilet and then they claimed none of that ever happened and they just shutdown because it was late
You need to prove it was stolen. I don't need to prove it was not stolen. The burden of proof is on the people claiming it was stolen. It's not guilty until proven innocent. The default state of US elections is not "stolen".
Donald Trump lied and claimed the election was stolen as a cynical political ploy because he was a sore loser. He was happy to try to tear down our democracy rather than admit he lost because he pissed off too many people with his tweets. Trump's lies caused Republicans to stay home in Georgia and cost us two senate seats, giving the Democrats full control of government, which allowed them to waste trillions of extra dollars once Biden took office.
The Republican Georgia Secretary of State conducted hundreds of investigations and found no widespread or significant voter fraud. Republicans were involved in various things like ballot supervision and inspection and all backed the legitimacy of the results.
All of the various attempts to prove voter fraud in the many lawsuits that were filed went nowhere because there was no proof of anything backing them.
The leading figures of "stop the steal" were all mentally unhinged lunatics.
Plus, the sheer number of votes that would have needed to be cheated would have been relatively easy to catch. It wasn't a handful of votes, it was hundreds of thousands of votes spread out over 3-4 states.
Projection much? You're awfully butthurt about Trump and I think you like this "most secure election in history" bullshit just because of petty spite.
The best I can say about the 2020 election is that we'll never know who won because we didn't get fair audits.
No, you need to prove it wasn't stolen. If Alex Jones wins 2024 with write-ins you wouldn't say "well we can't prove he didn't win legitimately". That's an absurd standard that you only have because you can't prove it wasn't stolen - not even at a preponderance of evidence standard.
This is the most fundamental requirement for an election is that everybody agrees it was fairly conducted; this is the source of all the democratic government's legitimacy.
And in your response we see that you have zero actual evidence it wasn't stolen other than blind trust - after saying you must base your decisions on facts only.
I know you’re well retarded little worm, but everything you just said is factually wrong, and that graph doesn’t show what you think it does….
But someone carefully chose the scale on both of those Y axis variables to show something ... important! It's got to be true! Look where they intersect!
This should not be surprising at all.
With the left going all in on pushing globalist rule on everyone, shit will eventually hit the fan.
One of the comments, upvoted to 131 (13 downvotes):
Daily Mail readers were never this based before.
What did they expect with an openly hostile illegitimate government?
Pretty sure usa will become balkanized. Pretty sure UN and NATO will help the commie bastards. Pretty sure china will help the commies too.
Looking at the map.. commies will control all the coastal states except the gulf states. California is probably the prized state on the west coast for the agriculture and ports. Probably need to expel the commies out of california. Hold onto the fly over states and gulf states.
This is encouraging. When the ongoing migration of patriotic Americans to red states slows or stops, then we'll see about the likelihood of armed conflict between the states.
I can't really see the possibility of armed conflict before then, simply because the right has no credible organizations equivalent to antifa or BLM, and if any do emerge they will immediately be the target of government agents and the propaganda wing of the DP.
When the left push too hard, the opposite reaction will happen and if it comes down to a war, the democrats will lose, just like thet lost the last civil war.
One only has to look as far back as the Spanish Civil War prior to WWII ... the United States is smack-dab in the middle of the lead-up of the same hyper-partisan politics that lead to brutal bloodshed.
I can only hope that the correct people win the war this time, but I'm afraid that the Soviets will be prodded by their jewish masters to commit more fratricide.
Why do Europeans put up with no free speech right, no right for self-defense, weak feckless leaders, the EU bureaucracy, and so on?
Because people's lives there are generally easy and without real hardship. Part of that is the march of technology, making people's lives easier in general.
So America will follow that model and just continue to weaken. Trannie bathrooms in Oklahomo and so on. There won't be a civil war or revolution until people face real hardship.