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Half of Americans expect a second U.S. civil war within YEARS, more than 40% agree with 'great replacement theory' and nearly a fifth expect they will choose to bring a gun to a violent political row, alarming poll shows (www.dailymail.co.uk)
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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What facts do you have that the election was not stolen?

You need to prove it was stolen. I don't need to prove it was not stolen. The burden of proof is on the people claiming it was stolen. It's not guilty until proven innocent. The default state of US elections is not "stolen".

Donald Trump lied and claimed the election was stolen as a cynical political ploy because he was a sore loser. He was happy to try to tear down our democracy rather than admit he lost because he pissed off too many people with his tweets. Trump's lies caused Republicans to stay home in Georgia and cost us two senate seats, giving the Democrats full control of government, which allowed them to waste trillions of extra dollars once Biden took office.

The Republican Georgia Secretary of State conducted hundreds of investigations and found no widespread or significant voter fraud. Republicans were involved in various things like ballot supervision and inspection and all backed the legitimacy of the results.

All of the various attempts to prove voter fraud in the many lawsuits that were filed went nowhere because there was no proof of anything backing them.

The leading figures of "stop the steal" were all mentally unhinged lunatics.

Plus, the sheer number of votes that would have needed to be cheated would have been relatively easy to catch. It wasn't a handful of votes, it was hundreds of thousands of votes spread out over 3-4 states.

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– SR388-SAX 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Donald Trump lied and claimed the election was stolen as a cynical political ploy because he was a sore loser.

Projection much? You're awfully butthurt about Trump and I think you like this "most secure election in history" bullshit just because of petty spite.

The best I can say about the 2020 election is that we'll never know who won because we didn't get fair audits.

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– fauxgnaws 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

You need to prove it was stolen. I don't need to prove it was not stolen. The burden of proof is on the people claiming it was stolen. It's not guilty until proven innocent. The default state of US elections is not "stolen"

No, you need to prove it wasn't stolen. If Alex Jones wins 2024 with write-ins you wouldn't say "well we can't prove he didn't win legitimately". That's an absurd standard that you only have because you can't prove it wasn't stolen - not even at a preponderance of evidence standard.

This is the most fundamental requirement for an election is that everybody agrees it was fairly conducted; this is the source of all the democratic government's legitimacy.

And in your response we see that you have zero actual evidence it wasn't stolen other than blind trust - after saying you must base your decisions on facts only.

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