Please keep guys like this in mind when discussing the trans phenomenon. As toxic and destructive as the behaviour of some "trans women" is, they are mostly just broken men. Our anger should be reserved for the forces that broke them.
The "incel to trans pipeline" isn't a joke, it's very often the actual timeline where misguided, lonely, and frequently autistic men become deluded into beleiving being a woman would solve all/most of their issues because someone tells them precisely that and sprinkles some cherry picked examples that haven't ended in suicide.
It happens to autistic girls too. You have to pretty much be an unholy abomination to be unable to get sex as a female, but girls don't really desire sex the same way guys do for just that reason. What they desire is positive male attention, and that's difficult to get when you're a weirdo who starts self-harming when someone asks a question you hadn't rehearsed the answer to.
The trans cult seeks out people who are unhappy with themselves with a promise that becoming a tranny will fix all their problems in an instant. It works on both genders, because both genders have popularity problems.
Agree. Also many autistic people are more vulnerable to such types of sadistic social manipulations and subversions those the trans cultists employ. It's sickly abusive.
Um excuse me sweaty, but I identify as a person who lives in a universe in which that comment was reported, so how about you not act be a bigoted shitlord for one moment????????????^?
Too often it's just unattractive looking guys geting bad body image problems that are preyed upon. They get sold on some fairytale magic that will make them a beautiful princess.
This is not the case. Transitioning does not make you less ugly. What it does is make whatever positive masculine traits you do have into something deeply unsettling.
Any counter example of an attractive TIM was already quite feminine and attractive before transitioning. This is very rare. If there is any doubt as to wether one would be pretty after transitioning, they are ten times more apparent if one was to go through with it.
All people have an innate ability to identify an unhealthy person. Historically it helped us avoid disease. Nowadays it's why the uncanny Valley exists, and why trans people who don't pass look so goddam creepy.
In any case good for him. I don't know what kind of damage he's incurred, but here's hoping he's managing to pull himself back together.
Many years ago during a conversation with one of these "progressive" types I made some mention of my being "a fat piece of shit". She replied with something like "that's not a healthy way of thinking about yourself; you should be happy with your body as-is".
This person was also fat, and when she said that it occurred to me that with her attitude she'd always be fat, but with my attitude there was at least a chance I'd try to not be. So whose attitude was actually the "healthy" one?
It all goes back to "change what you can, accept what you cannot". It's hard to fix fat, but you can do it. You both know it's a hard fight, so she has clearly conceded defeat (while you may not have won the fight, at least you're still swinging). Now look what this guy in OP's picture did, trying to fix looking homely rather than managing to come to terms with hid own body, learn to accept and love it as it is, and then work what attractive traits he does have. That top pic was when he wasn't accepting his own positive traits, and dear God was it a nightmare. But in the bottom pic, he at least looked pretty average, and so much more in control of his own opinions on who and what kind if person he is. Definite win for him and his self esteem.
It's that and a recognition that the "ideal self" must be grounded in reality. In my case part of the "ideal me" involves being a healthy weight, because humans do in fact have an optimal weight that I was well in excess of. In this guy's case it has to involve being a guy, because he is in fact a guy.
This guy to his credit correctly observed that "ideal him" didn't include whatever severe mental health issues he had. But since his "ideal self" wasn't grounded in reality (thinking he was a woman instead of a man) it didn't actually fix his mental health problem.
Then to top it all off, when he looked like a sideshow freak he doubtless had people telling him "you should be happy with who you are", which was doing him no favors. If he at least tried to make himself look like an attractive woman one could attempt the argument that his sense of "ideal self" had a rudimentary grounding in reality (in that he understands what an attractive woman looks like and that he was not attractive). But that's not the case.
If that "ideal self" isn't grounded in reality then you get what this dude was doing to himself. Perhaps he is no closer to his sense of "ideal self" than he was when he pretended to be a woman, but that sense of self is now grounded in reality which is a net positive for him.
If you make your sense of "ideal self" equal to "actual self" at all times then you never have incentive to improve yourself. One is free to have that sense of "ideal self", but having it is not and should not be considered a virtue. Unfortunately we have a bunch of people running around saying it is, and it will be our end.
That is an AMAZING ending.... None of us know the evils and issues another is going through. Whatever hell on earth this human was going through that started their transitioning - I am so happy(legit happy) that they are working through it, and beating it back to the dark realm it belongs, not around one of God's family.
Bih Up's !!!! To whomever this brave, truly brave, person is. Wishing him nothing but strength and peace in the arms of the lord.
Me too, but even if it is - few of us get out of our life-battles without permanent injuries.
He's battles have been particularly brutal, so maybe he will have to live with scars(seen and unseen) - but he will live, and live with the glorious understanding that whatever issues he has coming ahead none will be as tough as the one he just survived.
The man is a King, a warrior and someone I would be honored to have a beer with.
I'd say it's a huge fucking accomplishment. Especially considering this is a cult whose "rites" include irreversibly mutilating your body and pumping it full of God-knows-what chemicals to deform it. Add in the lovebombing, encouragement to cut ties with close family and friends from when people knew you by your "deadname" and severing yourself from its clutches seems nigh improbable since by the time you're so far in you've gone too far to just back out.
I hope OP guy didn't mutilate himself before he got out.
This kind of low-level shapeshifting from one sex to another is yet another technology that used to be considered magic ... in the sense that it used to be for gods, wizards, and those who made deals with supernatural entities.
I wonder if there's some sort of subtext along these lines running through all this.
Yep. I fucking hate the shitty culture of reddit where everyone posts shit hoping for a million comments patting them on the back and telling them how great they are. But I've half a mind to take my account over to that sub and post reassuring comments in every post because honestly they all need and deserve it. Shit is literally a cult.
Gonna go out on a limb and say that the only thing wrong with this dude was a shattered confidence due to rejection and bullying from others.
Whoever told him that wearing a dress and a wig was gonna improve his life did something monstrous to him that would, for sure, have put him on the path to suicide.
Imagine waking up to his former state and then most of these "trans" people say they're suffering dysphoria. Yeah cause you're fucking yourself up and your body is screaming no and for some messed up reason (we all know..) you're taking that as a cue to dive deeper or 41.
Please keep guys like this in mind when discussing the trans phenomenon. As toxic and destructive as the behaviour of some "trans women" is, they are mostly just broken men. Our anger should be reserved for the forces that broke them.
The "incel to trans pipeline" isn't a joke, it's very often the actual timeline where misguided, lonely, and frequently autistic men become deluded into beleiving being a woman would solve all/most of their issues because someone tells them precisely that and sprinkles some cherry picked examples that haven't ended in suicide.
Yet.
Well, being a woman would solve a lot of their issues in those cases. It's just that it's, of course, impossible for them to become a real woman.
It happens to autistic girls too. You have to pretty much be an unholy abomination to be unable to get sex as a female, but girls don't really desire sex the same way guys do for just that reason. What they desire is positive male attention, and that's difficult to get when you're a weirdo who starts self-harming when someone asks a question you hadn't rehearsed the answer to.
The trans cult seeks out people who are unhappy with themselves with a promise that becoming a tranny will fix all their problems in an instant. It works on both genders, because both genders have popularity problems.
Agree. Also many autistic people are more vulnerable to such types of sadistic social manipulations and subversions those the trans cultists employ. It's sickly abusive.
mostly it's kids with no friends being groomed with fake attention from Discord pedophiles nowadays
For me June is now mental health awareness, self mutilation awareness, and cult awareness month.
Um excuse me sweaty, but I identify as a person who lives in a universe in which that comment was reported, so how about you not act be a bigoted shitlord for one moment????????????^?
Too often it's just unattractive looking guys geting bad body image problems that are preyed upon. They get sold on some fairytale magic that will make them a beautiful princess.
This is not the case. Transitioning does not make you less ugly. What it does is make whatever positive masculine traits you do have into something deeply unsettling.
Any counter example of an attractive TIM was already quite feminine and attractive before transitioning. This is very rare. If there is any doubt as to wether one would be pretty after transitioning, they are ten times more apparent if one was to go through with it.
All people have an innate ability to identify an unhealthy person. Historically it helped us avoid disease. Nowadays it's why the uncanny Valley exists, and why trans people who don't pass look so goddam creepy.
In any case good for him. I don't know what kind of damage he's incurred, but here's hoping he's managing to pull himself back together.
Many years ago during a conversation with one of these "progressive" types I made some mention of my being "a fat piece of shit". She replied with something like "that's not a healthy way of thinking about yourself; you should be happy with your body as-is".
This person was also fat, and when she said that it occurred to me that with her attitude she'd always be fat, but with my attitude there was at least a chance I'd try to not be. So whose attitude was actually the "healthy" one?
It all goes back to "change what you can, accept what you cannot". It's hard to fix fat, but you can do it. You both know it's a hard fight, so she has clearly conceded defeat (while you may not have won the fight, at least you're still swinging). Now look what this guy in OP's picture did, trying to fix looking homely rather than managing to come to terms with hid own body, learn to accept and love it as it is, and then work what attractive traits he does have. That top pic was when he wasn't accepting his own positive traits, and dear God was it a nightmare. But in the bottom pic, he at least looked pretty average, and so much more in control of his own opinions on who and what kind if person he is. Definite win for him and his self esteem.
It's that and a recognition that the "ideal self" must be grounded in reality. In my case part of the "ideal me" involves being a healthy weight, because humans do in fact have an optimal weight that I was well in excess of. In this guy's case it has to involve being a guy, because he is in fact a guy.
This guy to his credit correctly observed that "ideal him" didn't include whatever severe mental health issues he had. But since his "ideal self" wasn't grounded in reality (thinking he was a woman instead of a man) it didn't actually fix his mental health problem.
Then to top it all off, when he looked like a sideshow freak he doubtless had people telling him "you should be happy with who you are", which was doing him no favors. If he at least tried to make himself look like an attractive woman one could attempt the argument that his sense of "ideal self" had a rudimentary grounding in reality (in that he understands what an attractive woman looks like and that he was not attractive). But that's not the case.
If that "ideal self" isn't grounded in reality then you get what this dude was doing to himself. Perhaps he is no closer to his sense of "ideal self" than he was when he pretended to be a woman, but that sense of self is now grounded in reality which is a net positive for him.
If you make your sense of "ideal self" equal to "actual self" at all times then you never have incentive to improve yourself. One is free to have that sense of "ideal self", but having it is not and should not be considered a virtue. Unfortunately we have a bunch of people running around saying it is, and it will be our end.
The idea of happiness as a primary goal has been a disaster for the human race.
The idea that self indulgence equates to happiness. That's the real kicker.
so are you still a fat piece of shit?
Yes but far less of one than I was when this occurred, and moving towards not being one at all.
That is an AMAZING ending.... None of us know the evils and issues another is going through. Whatever hell on earth this human was going through that started their transitioning - I am so happy(legit happy) that they are working through it, and beating it back to the dark realm it belongs, not around one of God's family.
Bih Up's !!!! To whomever this brave, truly brave, person is. Wishing him nothing but strength and peace in the arms of the lord.
I just hope his body isn't permanently damaged
Me too, but even if it is - few of us get out of our life-battles without permanent injuries.
He's battles have been particularly brutal, so maybe he will have to live with scars(seen and unseen) - but he will live, and live with the glorious understanding that whatever issues he has coming ahead none will be as tough as the one he just survived.
The man is a King, a warrior and someone I would be honored to have a beer with.
Meh, posting your "accomplishments" is still pretty gay.
I'd say it's a huge fucking accomplishment. Especially considering this is a cult whose "rites" include irreversibly mutilating your body and pumping it full of God-knows-what chemicals to deform it. Add in the lovebombing, encouragement to cut ties with close family and friends from when people knew you by your "deadname" and severing yourself from its clutches seems nigh improbable since by the time you're so far in you've gone too far to just back out.
I hope OP guy didn't mutilate himself before he got out.
Following along with the "cult" analogy ...
This kind of low-level shapeshifting from one sex to another is yet another technology that used to be considered magic ... in the sense that it used to be for gods, wizards, and those who made deals with supernatural entities.
I wonder if there's some sort of subtext along these lines running through all this.
Ah yes, the "god knows what chemicals" such as the chemicals naturally produced inside of your own body already.
You trans-rabid people are so dramatic that it's fucking hilarious.
Yep. I fucking hate the shitty culture of reddit where everyone posts shit hoping for a million comments patting them on the back and telling them how great they are. But I've half a mind to take my account over to that sub and post reassuring comments in every post because honestly they all need and deserve it. Shit is literally a cult.
It's pride
dayweekmonthyear, they can be as gay as they want.Gonna go out on a limb and say that the only thing wrong with this dude was a shattered confidence due to rejection and bullying from others.
Whoever told him that wearing a dress and a wig was gonna improve his life did something monstrous to him that would, for sure, have put him on the path to suicide.
You can see how much healthier the dude is.
Imagine waking up to his former state and then most of these "trans" people say they're suffering dysphoria. Yeah cause you're fucking yourself up and your body is screaming no and for some messed up reason (we all know..) you're taking that as a cue to dive deeper or 41.
poor guy
Ironically the faggot looks more plausibly feminine in the after picture. Could pass as a butch lez.
Damn... I need to be kinder, you never know what kind of shit someone is going through.
Thinking like that is part of the problem. We need to COMPLETELY stop giving a shit what someone is going through.
The only things that matter is what he does. There is no such thing as a good excuse.
At least the elephant man had the decency to wear a burlap sack.
Still a goblin, but good luck and god speed
God bless this man for seeing the truth by experiencing it! 🙏🏻✝️
literally every tranny on the right there
I can't tell what gender this thing was before it decided to do what it did even though it's all laid out here so I'll say it's a pat
Honestly, this looks like someone who did everything for attention with a quick visit to goodwill for props.
Still has to deal with the crap the treatments did to him. I Feel sorry for him tbh.
The bottom one has a different username.
Am I really the only one that noticed this?
Simplest explanation is he dumped the "SammyTrans" username for obvious reasons.
Fair enough.
And if so, good on the meme-maker for tracking down the new account and putting this together.
...Ooh, what if it WAS this guy who made it?
It was all for attention. Just like teenage girls on social media, school shooters, and suicide attempters.
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