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EU threatens Musk’s Twitter with fines and/or ban over free speech stance (archive.ph)
posted 4 years ago by altmehere 4 years ago by altmehere +99 / -0
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– altmehere [S] 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Just like there was much Trump couldn't do when he was president because of states' rights like cracking down on BLM/Antifa, and now that Biden is president states' rights are a racist talking point and the Capitol Police is opening offices in states including Florida.

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– loubag1997 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

I think we all saw this coming. Actually, as usual, Babylon Bee pretty much called it:

https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-call-for-immediate-regulation-of-big-tech

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– Ahaus667 49 points 4 years ago +49 / -0

Good, fuck Europe

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– WeedleTLiar 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Let Russia have them. We have always been at war with Eurasia.

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– send_it 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

No please don't, that's how it multiplies.

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– dagthegnome 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Not really. Testosterone counts are too low.

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– aaarg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Every day you see new black/brown heads here.

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– altmehere [S] 31 points 4 years ago +31 / -0

The Digital Services Act forces the like of Twitter to disclose to regulators how they are tackling content such as disinformation

I doubt Twitter is going to outright leave the EU, so I hope they’re given a separate “padded room” version. Make it obvious to users that they’re being treated like children because the EU demands it.

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– Assassin47 28 points 4 years ago +28 / -0

Musk said they would follow the law in countries they operate in, so why not let the law handle it themselves? That's how public squares operate. Let approved law enforcement agencies create LEO accounts that can (transparently) remove whatever they like - but only affecting users in their jurisdiction. Germany can have their own cyberpolice that go and filter content for German users, who will still get a log of banned posts like we have here. Bonus: He can reduce the number of employees Twitter has to pay. The government should not be allowed to offload their law enforcement responsibility and costs onto private citizens and companies.

But part of me wants to say fuck 'em and put the twitter infrastructure onto Starlink. Dare them to ban Starlink. Will they go that far? It would be fun to watch.

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– WeedleTLiar 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Are they even technically capable of doing that?

That's what I find interesting about Musk: he seems to be going to a place where government laws don't apply because they can't technically enforce them.

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– Assassin47 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

You mean ban Starlink? Yes they could disallow the business operating in the country or getting a broadcasting license, and then go after people who have the receivers. (which have to be visible to the outside, and there is probably a way to detect if someone is sending data up to the sats)

It would make whatever country is doing it look like a tyrannical dictatorship.

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– Lurker404 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

tackling content such as disinformation and war propaganda

I'm hoping he applies those same rules to EU politicians and the media who have been war mongering and spreading any propaganda the Ukies publish.

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– WeedleTLiar 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Easy enough.

  1. Wait for someone to report "disinformation". Reports must include description of disinformation, why it's untrue or misleading and source(s) that disprove it or they will be ignored.

  2. Reports are reviewed manually by the disinformation team (this could take 4-6 business weeks).

  3. If the initial report is valid, the report is stickied to the offending tweet, which remains up, along with replies.

Make them work for it and they won't even bother to report.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

Watch him bend over.

Also

if it operates in Europe it will have to fulfil the obligations, including moderation, open algorithms, freedom of speech, transparency in rules, obligations to comply with our own rules for hate speech, revenge porn [and] harassment.

You must ensure freedom of speech by banning free speech.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

obligations to comply with our own rules for hate speech, revenge porn [and] harassment.

Now they care about DA RULEZ

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Just serve all the content from Russia or Eastern Europe.

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

remember these annoying cookie stuff is all because of retards in Europe.

Wait, what?

Give me that history lesson.

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– covok48 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Cope harder Europe. I like how unelected bureaucrats get to determine what is acceptable speech there & they still have the gall to say they have free speech.

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner for the internal market, told the Financial Times that Elon Musk must follow rules on moderating illegal and harmful content online after Twitter accepted the billionaire’s $44bn takeover offer.

When Russia does it, it is censorship.

When the Evil Empire does it, it's "rules on moderating".

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Cheaper to just disconnect the EU from accessing it.

In fact, I low-key hope he goes full corporate raider and liquidates that cancer altogether.

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– ajfofjakf 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Cheaper, and greener. Make them really commit to reducing energy consumption.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Doesn't matter.

"African Man Bad." -Psychotic Left

That's all they need to know.

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– realerfunction 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

shut the fuck up, european.

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– WeedleTLiar 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Does anyone remember when Ars was good? Or am I just wearong rose-coloured glasses?

Hey, Europe! Is this guy right? Would you rather just not have access to Twitter? Might be time to give him a ring...

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– altmehere [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Does anyone remember when Ars was good? Or am I just wearong rose-coloured glasses?

Nope, Ars used to be great back when it produced articles like this. It got steadily worse in the late 2000s as it got watered down for a wider audience, really started getting political around the time GamerGate happened, and totally shit the bed in 2016.

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– barwhack 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The answer: ban the fining country. Sell VPN licenses to its citizens.

Nm. I like this better.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Who in their right mind would run a server in the EU at this point?

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– Gizortnik 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Hopefully, this will cause the global elite to basically splinter off from the site, and be required to get a wider array of social media sites for input.

Don't be surprised if one day this causes more politicians to promote themselves not just on Twitter & Facebook, but also Gab and Telegram.

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– AbleistSL 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I don't care if Elon Musk has to shut down EU Twitter servers for legal reasons, it would be no skin off his back and I doubt they would block twitter as it would cause a scandal like what happened in Australia and New Zealand.

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– GeneralBoobs 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Translation: Weak-limbed retards in wire-rimmed glasses softly telling people they are going to jail while meatheads hold them down simply because some fat cunt didn't like being called an ugly fat cunt.

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– WeedleTLiar 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I'm waiting for Musk to set up his own sovereign space colony so he can do what he likes.

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– Galean 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Isn't common knowledge that she is not elected? The EU is a joke, a dark and evil joke.

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– operation_eland 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Von Der Leyen is the quintessential example of someone who fails upwards. One scandal after another. Lays waste to everything she ever touches. The main reason she is EU president is they had to get her out of the German government before she did any more damage and her current job was considered somewhere she couldn't really do much harm since its actually the commission that's the real power.

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– Soperp 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

weber wasn't allowed because:

Gay conversion therapies

In March 2018, Weber voted against initiatives prohibiting gay conversion therapies, unlike the majority of the European People Party's MEPs.[27] This vote raised the question on whether he is in favour of such practices.[citation needed]

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