Why do women place little value on our right to Free Speech?
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i mean the answer is right there. They prefer "safety" over freedom
They prefer social acceptance.
That's all that matters in the end.
Doesn't matter whether something is true or false, nor if it's "safe" or "unsafe."
If it gains approval within the social group and from the authority structure, a woman will play along.
Kinda splitting hairs here, but that "social acceptance" is the safety they are after. Nothing bad will happen to them and no one will judge them if they are "socially accepted." It's why historically they are quick to adapt to a conquering nation, they must be socially accepted by the new rulers to be safe from them.
It may seem like an insignificant difference, but it's very important.
"Safety" is of no concern to woman.
If it was, they'd heed the advice of people telling them not to go to bad places, to start a family, to not act so haughty, etc.
Take for instance those two women who, against all advice, went hiking in Morocco to virtue signal about "safety" and were raped and beheaded by ISIS militants.
This is every so common in a feminine mindset. Rejection of reality in favor of a projected reality. Conflating safety with social acceptance undermines this idea. It is more correct to say that they are seeking an ever higher place within a social hierarchy.
Those women didn't think those things were dangerous, though.
No, they KNEW it was dangerous and ignored that knowledge to PRETEND that it wasn't.
Really can't decide which one of you is more correct
I'll give you a great example: That writer for Sex in the City who wrote a post-wall blog a while ago regretting what she had done.
She knew where she was going and what was going to happen but thought, "It'll be different for me."
They always know. They think they're special and that their life is somehow different. There's a constant gnawing at the edge of their mind that they willfully ignore unless some kind of crisis happens, and even still they rationalize it away.
Then one day, right around menopause, they all wake up, look back, and despair saying, "What have I done?"
Then they have two choices:
Accept their mistakes and their fate and try to fix it, or;
Double down. Triple down. The world is wrong, not me.
It's a pattern you see repeated over and over and over and over and over. The callousness of women knows no bounds.
I don't see any reason to believe that. These people buy into narratives about "Islamaphobia" so they think Muslims are fine, and it's just bigots smearing them.
war brides were always a thing. and should prove to anyone that men and women are not the same
They have no physical power in this world, and they're often raised and educated poorly. So their lives are made of compromise. They see it as the natural state of the world.
Even men's lives are made of compromise. The difference is, there's danger, threat and used to be free speech to preface those two, to enable true compromise.
Compromise without threat, danger or power is just kowtowing and pleading.
Ironically, one of the original Anarcho-Feminist heroines talks about this in one of her essays. She essentially says women are busy bodies and are more likely to seek to use the state to push conformity.
I think this is a good point. What you described is what I actually notice quite reliably with many women [not all]. Often it is just something that gives them the illusion of safety that works, but actual safe things is not quite as important sometimes.
Just making this up but this has happened many times with gun owners I know for sure: Guy goes out with girl someplace, shopping, camping, whatever.... he is an incredibly responsible gun owner, super safe, and she may even know it, but in her mind having a gun is "unsafe" when in reality they are much safer having one.
Gosh it actually reminds me of one of the most stupid lines in modern "netflix-style-media-history" I heard. I was watching the new "Lost In Space" remake thing. The wife just outright sucks in that show.
The dad, who is like literally military trained super good soldier guy, somehow gets a gun. She is all "YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT GUNS IN THIS HOUSEHOLD!" scolding him to get rid of it. Tey are literally LOST IN SPACE WITH SPACE ALIENS AND MONSTERS TRYING TO KILL THEIR CHILDREN EVERY 5 MINUTES. But no, gun scary to her so instead of actual safety you better get rid of that gun military trained combat veteran husband of mine!!!
As long as the men are providing the safety 😂
Because women, as a group, has had everything handed to them. They never had to suffer and die for basic freedoms. They're always just victims waiting for someone to rescue them.
Also, it gives them another tool to use society to take down people who they don't like. It's much easier for them to declare someone guilty of hate speech or misogyny and get the mob to silence him then to actually deal with disagreement or potentially (gasp) have to change their own opinions.
Islam is wrong about a lot of things but they are right about two.
LGBT
Women
I get the meme, but it's pretty inaccurate.
I don't much care for number 2 either. We need a return to Western Male dominance and an actual patriarchy in the family again, but we don't need to start treating women as property to be bought, sold, and killed off when they are injured or show too much ankle. We don't have to become barbarians to return to pre-feminist western civilization.
Well, okay, we might have to for a short time.
Afghanistan was a choice between Islamists who wanted to rape little girls and Islamists who wanted to rape little boys, and somehow, we thought there was a right choice to make.
There is a right choice to make. I remember it from a meme song back in the early 00's.
The only way that Afghanistan could have had a successful outcome would have been a true colonial effort. The States would have needed to occupy and then settle the country.
Given the widespread rape of prepubescent boys among mud slime countries, they aren't even right about the first one. Like all inherently Satanic ideologies, Islam is way gay. They're simply in denial about it.
Women prefer feelings over logic. Women are hardwired to prefer safety. What was before the job of the husband - providing safety - is now the job of the government. Which makes them a prime target for manipulation campaigns like "muh climate change, muh russia, covid will kill us all, etc". Punch enough fear into them and they will be more than willing to even send their own sons into the meat grinders of war - not mainly to be safe, but to feel safe.
women stop maturing at puberty and dont start again until menopause
so imagine asking a 13 year old girl "should people ne allowed to say bed things?" and imagine her answers
also why women shouldnt be allowed to vote
They don't start again, period. In nature, fast maturity equates to a low maturity ceiling. As humans are to mice, so men are to women.
Genuinely curious, why is this the case and what are the studies for it? Or is it just you looking back at history and seeing how many wars men ended up starting over pussy?
Once a girl hits puberty men start fighting over her and giving her free stuff and generally working as hard as they can to make her life easier in the hopes that she chooses them.
We know growth comes from failure and struggle and overcoming difficulties. If life is on easy mode how is it possible to grow and mature? Maybe for women born deformed or REALLY ugly this isn't the case but it is for the vast majority of them.
Women are followers, not leaders. They’ll follow (and reinforce) the existing the prevailing zeitgeist of the time. Unfortunately today that’s censorship & authoritarianism.
I think is an evolutionary trait. Women have made others fight for them for a long time, they also need to feel protected by others and would give up freedom for protection. In this case they would like to be protected from criticism. They are also better then men at being mean without being rude and playing victim. Although they are very shortsighted.
Women tend to work much more by establishing a consensus and then handing off enforcement of that consensus to men - at least at the physical level.
Free speech is very counterproductive if that is your aim.
Men 18-29 shows natural maleness before it is broken down and "socialized" into sheepish conformance.
Freedom and Truth above "feelings".
Men must become.
Women already are.
Oddly enough, the 30+ year olds are more censorious in this poll than the younger people.
I hat the term “making others feel welcome”. It seems to be defined as any opinion they may not like makes them not feel welcome
Taking gender out of the equation, I think the naturally tendency of all humans is to advocate for free speech when such speech tends to benefit them and people are against free speech when such speech goes against them.
Take for example all these leftists on social media that advocate for censorship. They only do so because right now the power and flow of society benefits them. If tomorrow all of a sudden National Socialists were in power and censoring leftists you would immediately see a flip where the leftists would start screaming for free speech.
There are only a few people that always advocate for free speech at all times and it's usually only because these people were once oppressed because of their speech so they understand the dangers of ever censoring speech. That would be say the founding fathers of the USA who understood the dangers of the British and Catholic Church censoring speech because it hurt them so they advocated with free speech and when they had the power to censor speech they chose instead not to censor because they had experienced first hand the problems of censorship. They then tried to instill those values in Americans and that worked for a while but now too many people living today no longer understand the issues of censoring speech. They don't fathom that one day it could be them being censored. They think they'll always be in the right because we're at the dawn of a new age of humanity or whatever. The lessons of the past have been forgotten and the people are naive.
How does this apply to women? Well, women are benefiting the most between the sexes by a significant margin. This means women will be more likely to advocate for censorship because they see less problems with it and the censorship is benefiting women far more than men. If for example our society was censoring women from insulting men, censoring feminists from suggesting women are equal to men, censoring women who speak disrespectfully to a man, or censoring groups that promoted women in the workforce, in slutdom etc... And the censorship was benefiting men over women, you would see less women advocate for censorship.
I also think there is a natural lean where holding all else constant, women prefer censorship than men. The reason for this comes down to the fact that men are stronger, smarter and more capable than women. That means men have less to fear from the free speech of others because men have more power on an individual basis to ensure the free speech of others doesn't negatively impact them. Women have less individual power than men so therefore are always more threatened by the free speech of others, most especially men. This creates a naturally lean where women always prefer censorship over free speech.
Between the two factor, we see a large descrepency between the two sexes.
I think some of the posts here are on the right track.
I talked to a friend in college about this. She was a small woman--probably 5'1 or so. She basically said that every time she got on an elevator with a 6'0+ man--or really, any larger man--she felt nervous. She was fully aware that pretty much any male could physically dominate her, at will.
As she explained it, it wasn't that she was going around constantly frightened, but she was constantly aware that she was weak, and men were far, far stronger than she was. A near-constant feeling of worry.
Now, maybe she was a basketcase, maybe not, but it did get me thinking. If most women feel those feelings, even if only at times, it KIND OF MAKES SENSE that women are more likely than your average male to give up freedom for security (and even so, 46% of men aged 30+ find freedom of speech less important than FEELING safe?!)
I read one article about an Olympic swimmer. She was bulky, big, strong, and fast. She was raped in college by some thug. She wrote that she had never understood before how even as one of the STRONGEST women, she was pretty helpless against an average dude. https://deadspin.com/how-a-career-ends-nancy-hogshead-makar-olympic-swimmi-5930611 (She's also written and been sighted in many articles about the trans Penn swimmer. Needless to say, she does not support men competing in women's sports.)
I'm a tall and skinny guy. I've never been strong and didn't get in good shape until my 30s (and I now lift regularly). I'm no Chad or musclehead (nor fatass), and I have literally never experienced that kind of fear on a daily basis. I've certainly been situatioally uncomfortable, for instance, when in South Side Chicago at night (long story), but I think this is a pretty fundamental difference between males and females.
These are feminist tactics to manipulate you. They know as a man you naturally seek to protect women, while never expecting the same from them.
Women develop these patterns growing up with other women. Just this I was studying for traing and went to the library for a change of scenery and at some point I noticed a group of not-attractive teenage girls was chatting behind me. One of them starts saying that some girl who isn't there is her friend friend forever and - then the queen bee of the group starts talking over her, angrily, telling her she needs to break up with her "she's not worth it". She gets really angry, she clearly believes she has every right to tell the other girl who she should and shouldn't be friends with.
This is the kind of thing that forms of womens actual fear. Group ostrasization because of association with someone the group doesn't like - often entirely unexpectedly. One day you think things are fine, the next the whole group is threatening to abandon her because she was seen with someone they don't like.
because women prefer safety over freedom. the problem is a husband used to provide the safety for a woman, but now women are married to the state instead so they want the state to provide for their safety.
Women and the elderly really dragging us down. Smh
Freedom is death for a woman. They cannot actually survive on their own. They want and embrace a powerful, authoritarian state to protect and provide for them.
Our mistake was allowing government to care for women at all. They are better, and men are better when women submit to a powerful, authoritarian man (husband). Husband - as in animal husbandry. Women are property. They are either property of a man or property of the state. Which way, SIMPs?
Perhaps the poll would have some discussion on the reasoning, but alas OP posted only a screenshot.
Because women are afraid of literally everything.
When the vast majority of opinions held are the common and safe and well published opinions, the thought of needing to say hard sentences is foreign.
cause women have vagina
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Women are emotional creatures.
Men are logical ones.
If only the women followed this in their marriages. But then again, the divorce bank beckons.
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