I'm delusional and haven't learned a thing. My IQ is so low that introspection is beyond my intellectual capacity and I will never be able to grow or mature as a human being.
Fuck man, I was doing shit like ripping "sexist" adverts and things off walls back then. I'm as far from being remotely that stupid as can be today lol
My first vote in a Presidential election was for Bernie, though I was predisposed to questioning thanks to being called a racist misogynist transphobe for being weirded out by shit like Gamergate and troons in speedrunning. Now I openly yet subtly question "The plans". Slowly but surely showing people how fucked everything is by their own logic.
Reasonable leftists are still a thing, but they're a dying breed. I was one for a long time. You can only be told "don't believe your lying eyes" so many times before you get sick of the gaslighting.
I never considered myself right wing and still don't but they haven't been giving me much choice this last half-decade plus. Many other "right wingers" I know are in the same boat. Nicki Minaj will lead us to victory.
This. Anyone who questions "The plan" is quickly shunned and whipped by the cult and told to go to confession and do public pennance. If someone was actually reasonable they would realize what the fuck was going on and leave. This is why the "Smart" "Leader" leftists UTTERLY FEAR centralists and moderates, because they know that one of their cult babies will incite conflict at the slightest provocitation, and thus the only plan is to prevent anyone from ever questioning.
Remember that big political meme from the 2000's/early 2010's of "I'm socially liberal but financially conservative"? And how you haven't heard that phrase since? Every one of those people was tarred and feathered by people they considered their friends, and that program was discontinued.
Find me one, I dare you. Leftism as an ideology requires the participant to either be too stupid to realize that their ideas have killed a hundred million people, or too evil to care.
Correct. There are no reasonable leftists but there are low IQ ones. You can only be a leftist if you're brainwashed which means you aren't reasonable.
You can find "reasonable liberals" who're mostly just classical liberals that haven't realized their movement led to leftism yet.
But then again, imo it's pretty easy to see how things would play out if the left of today came into power and just on that alone I don't see how anyone could still call themselves a leftist. The stakes are way too high for that.
Reasonable leftists is like a seal loving penguin. They all get snuffed out early. You can probably find a number of people like that dispersed around the high school crowd, individuals who want to be good and kind to others and haven't yet experienced the hot poker of being accused of wrongthink yet.
Democrats from the 1950s were reasonable, but those kind of people have all been ran out of the Democrat party.
Joe Lieberman was the last prominent member of that Democrat party, and he got primaried in the 2006 Democrat primary for Connecticut Senator, and had to run as a 3rd party. He won, but that was his last term, he didn't run again.
Pew research has a long running poll series that documents the sentiments of Democrats and Republicans, and they have tracked the far left shift of the Democrat party over the years. 30 years ago there was not much divide between the average D and R, with the means of the chart being center left and center right, but over the years that mean has shifted far to the left for the average D, and barely budged to the right at all for the average R.
We all like to say that to the average woke lefty, anyone to the right of Pol Pot is a "right wing extremist," and to a large extent this is true, because the woke left now has more in common ideologically with Pol Pot than not.
That's the problem with accepting emotional rationale for your ethics--somebody can always claim a greater emotional cause. It generates a moral arms race that shifts the ideology further and further to the fringe. Most left thinkers don't have a concrete set of moral stances--just "Suffering is bad, and we should prevent suffering wherever we can". Well, suffering is unfortunately not objective and thus the goalposts move themselves.
I'm not going to downvote you for your answer being basically "Joe Lieberman", but the Democrat party of the 50s was fully in bed with the USSR, an outright foreign enemy of the nation. Hell they were in the 20s too, if it wasn't for Roosevelt and his cabal of socialists the United States would be a very different, and much better, place than it is right now.
At the elite level, yes, Democrats were loaded with commies, but not at the street level. The elites went to a lot of trouble to hide their allegiances, too, which is why they went nuts over the House Un-American Committee, and Senator McCarthy. They had to, because the average Democrat voter would have dropped them like six month old milk.
Even though the elite level of the Democrat party was riddled with commies, you still had politicians like JFK and Truman who were not commies.
I'm not so sure that the issue is left vs right. Once you cut past the identity politics, which undoubtedly exist on both sides, the truth is that we have more in common than not. From what I've observed the non idpol, anti-establishment left and new right all see many of the same problems in society and ultimately want a lot of the same things, just radically differ on the solutions.
The identity politics we see today were instituted during OWS because people were starting to become united across the political spectrum against the corrupt elites.
I don't think it's possible to be a queer activist without declaring every thirty seconds that you are queer and it is your primary and sole defining feature.
So I don't think either of your categories fits properly.
Marxists dont recognize individuals they recognize groups. Its a collectivist ideology. If there is a disagreement between a white and a black, the black will always be right in their eyes in addition the white will be seen as racist for disagreeing in the first place. Minority voices are more oppressed on the victim scale so their voices are more valuable no matter the topic. Thats why you always see people list their race first in Twitter comments, "As a black man I feel.." Etc, it adds value to their opinion.
The exact same thing happened to me. It's one of the reasons I hate niggers, faggots and, most of all, soy, spineless, weak willed, emasculated skinny jeaned white men. The fact that he's still leftist after all that means he belongs in the last category.
Identity politics are great when they come from the other direction.
Instead of "blacks are oppressed!" or "trans women are women!" and all that petulant bullshit, give the good old "White Christian men built this country and this world. Shut the fuck up and get out of my country or die, you worthless nigger worshippers."
All of his complaints are fully addressed under far-right identity politics. This is why, inevitably, the base of politics among whites will shift further and further to the right as whites become a lesser percentage of the population.
The same has happened to all leftist orgs like say Indymedia. Only sponsored leftists are allowed for obvious reasons. Copcar shiters properly dismantled the left so all the normies see now are drones.
But muh Marxists!
They are like 50% of the left and always were like that, remember that outside the anglosphere commies are legit parties in parliaments and have to do political shit for their paycheck.
That post is stamped at 2012. It's possible they aren't so leftist anymore.
Fuck man, I was doing shit like ripping "sexist" adverts and things off walls back then. I'm as far from being remotely that stupid as can be today lol
So, boobs good?
tits are life, ass is hometown
It is known.
Based Chad Takaki
boob good
Booba
My first vote in a Presidential election was for Bernie, though I was predisposed to questioning thanks to being called a racist misogynist transphobe for being weirded out by shit like Gamergate and troons in speedrunning. Now I openly yet subtly question "The plans". Slowly but surely showing people how fucked everything is by their own logic.
GamerGate moment: When you say No to a woman and all your "friends" go full Fair Game on you
Wikipedia is lefty trash. InfoGalatic is much better.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Zoe_Quinn
https://infogalactic.com/info/Fair_Game_(Scientology)
I could believe it. It would be another two years from there that I finally started seeing their true colors.
Fair enough.
2012? I guess 2016 or there abouts is the cutoff then.
Reasonable leftists are still a thing, but they're a dying breed. I was one for a long time. You can only be told "don't believe your lying eyes" so many times before you get sick of the gaslighting.
Reasonable leftists become right wing death squad enthusiasts.
I never considered myself right wing and still don't but they haven't been giving me much choice this last half-decade plus. Many other "right wingers" I know are in the same boat. Nicki Minaj will lead us to victory.
Not a former leftist, but ex-libertarian; the pipeline is real, we need RWDS
Would you settle for helicopters?
🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁
We're gonna need a lot of helicopters lol
This. Anyone who questions "The plan" is quickly shunned and whipped by the cult and told to go to confession and do public pennance. If someone was actually reasonable they would realize what the fuck was going on and leave. This is why the "Smart" "Leader" leftists UTTERLY FEAR centralists and moderates, because they know that one of their cult babies will incite conflict at the slightest provocitation, and thus the only plan is to prevent anyone from ever questioning.
Remember that big political meme from the 2000's/early 2010's of "I'm socially liberal but financially conservative"? And how you haven't heard that phrase since? Every one of those people was tarred and feathered by people they considered their friends, and that program was discontinued.
Heh, it's well known the disident right asorbed the libertarian left.
Find me one, I dare you. Leftism as an ideology requires the participant to either be too stupid to realize that their ideas have killed a hundred million people, or too evil to care.
Correct. There are no reasonable leftists but there are low IQ ones. You can only be a leftist if you're brainwashed which means you aren't reasonable.
You can find "reasonable liberals" who're mostly just classical liberals that haven't realized their movement led to leftism yet.
Glenn Greenwald seems pretty sensible.
But then again, imo it's pretty easy to see how things would play out if the left of today came into power and just on that alone I don't see how anyone could still call themselves a leftist. The stakes are way too high for that.
Reasonable leftists is like a seal loving penguin. They all get snuffed out early. You can probably find a number of people like that dispersed around the high school crowd, individuals who want to be good and kind to others and haven't yet experienced the hot poker of being accused of wrongthink yet.
Democrats from the 1950s were reasonable, but those kind of people have all been ran out of the Democrat party.
Joe Lieberman was the last prominent member of that Democrat party, and he got primaried in the 2006 Democrat primary for Connecticut Senator, and had to run as a 3rd party. He won, but that was his last term, he didn't run again.
Pew research has a long running poll series that documents the sentiments of Democrats and Republicans, and they have tracked the far left shift of the Democrat party over the years. 30 years ago there was not much divide between the average D and R, with the means of the chart being center left and center right, but over the years that mean has shifted far to the left for the average D, and barely budged to the right at all for the average R.
We all like to say that to the average woke lefty, anyone to the right of Pol Pot is a "right wing extremist," and to a large extent this is true, because the woke left now has more in common ideologically with Pol Pot than not.
That's the problem with accepting emotional rationale for your ethics--somebody can always claim a greater emotional cause. It generates a moral arms race that shifts the ideology further and further to the fringe. Most left thinkers don't have a concrete set of moral stances--just "Suffering is bad, and we should prevent suffering wherever we can". Well, suffering is unfortunately not objective and thus the goalposts move themselves.
I'm not going to downvote you for your answer being basically "Joe Lieberman", but the Democrat party of the 50s was fully in bed with the USSR, an outright foreign enemy of the nation. Hell they were in the 20s too, if it wasn't for Roosevelt and his cabal of socialists the United States would be a very different, and much better, place than it is right now.
At the elite level, yes, Democrats were loaded with commies, but not at the street level. The elites went to a lot of trouble to hide their allegiances, too, which is why they went nuts over the House Un-American Committee, and Senator McCarthy. They had to, because the average Democrat voter would have dropped them like six month old milk.
Even though the elite level of the Democrat party was riddled with commies, you still had politicians like JFK and Truman who were not commies.
I do not care. You are what you vote for.
Midwit seems more likely honestly.
I'm not so sure that the issue is left vs right. Once you cut past the identity politics, which undoubtedly exist on both sides, the truth is that we have more in common than not. From what I've observed the non idpol, anti-establishment left and new right all see many of the same problems in society and ultimately want a lot of the same things, just radically differ on the solutions.
The identity politics we see today were instituted during OWS because people were starting to become united across the political spectrum against the corrupt elites.
Eh, if by far leftist he just means that he still hates (((bankers))) it's not that bad.
OWS = Occupy Wall Street
Identity politics are cancer:
https://archive.fo/YbN1
https://archive.fo/JhT1c
https://archive.fo/bjhwi
https://web.archive.org/web/20111109222735/https://www.codepink.org/article.php?id=5992
https://alexandria.ucsb.edu/lib/ark:/48907/f30c4sz5
Woketards and msm serve the rich
https://archive.fo/8Cvmc
https://archive.fo/Sq5y3
https://archive.fo/RxTHs
Tim Pool, who was at OWS has said the same thing.
Thats what you get for not tossing the women out.
I don't think it's possible to be a queer activist without declaring every thirty seconds that you are queer and it is your primary and sole defining feature.
So I don't think either of your categories fits properly.
I have to assume it's followers of Queer Theory.
aka pedophiles
Minor attracted people, bigot
Neat thing about maps is ... you can use machinery to forcibly fold them into smaller units.
loud faggots
Marxists dont recognize individuals they recognize groups. Its a collectivist ideology. If there is a disagreement between a white and a black, the black will always be right in their eyes in addition the white will be seen as racist for disagreeing in the first place. Minority voices are more oppressed on the victim scale so their voices are more valuable no matter the topic. Thats why you always see people list their race first in Twitter comments, "As a black man I feel.." Etc, it adds value to their opinion.
"Hey, but what's your race got to do with anything?"
This is what you hear if you call them a black cunt, so call them out if they state their race as if that's relevant to the topic, too.
Ursory doesn't care what color you are, it robs everyone. Ask a college grad with six digit student loan debt how that works.
The exact same thing happened to me. It's one of the reasons I hate niggers, faggots and, most of all, soy, spineless, weak willed, emasculated skinny jeaned white men. The fact that he's still leftist after all that means he belongs in the last category.
r/stupidpol
Identity politics are great when they come from the other direction.
Instead of "blacks are oppressed!" or "trans women are women!" and all that petulant bullshit, give the good old "White Christian men built this country and this world. Shut the fuck up and get out of my country or die, you worthless nigger worshippers."
All of his complaints are fully addressed under far-right identity politics. This is why, inevitably, the base of politics among whites will shift further and further to the right as whites become a lesser percentage of the population.
The same has happened to all leftist orgs like say Indymedia. Only sponsored leftists are allowed for obvious reasons. Copcar shiters properly dismantled the left so all the normies see now are drones.
They are like 50% of the left and always were like that, remember that outside the anglosphere commies are legit parties in parliaments and have to do political shit for their paycheck.
Just imagine the hell of trying to organize a political movement with a majority white male membership...
What a whitepill.
Truth be told, I'm a little bit terrified by how utterly brilliant the destabilization plan worked.
Is it just me, or does the Obama "O" at the top of this post look just like the Great Awakening "Q"?
Never trust a memeflaggot.