I don't really care. Anybody trying to fight cops who are trying to arrest scamming thieves from another country is on the enemy side. If retarded gun libertarians want to argue about the merits of a good shoot or whatever, that's their problem. Any argument about it from a leftist is fundamentally dishonest no matter what words they're using.
Any argument about it from a leftist is fundamentally dishonest no matter what words they're using.
Exactly this. They don't use words the same way we do, they're just trying to find the right magic words to make us do what they want. It's like the demons from Frieren.
Retarded, He wasn't killed for being our enemy, he was killed because the police were overly trigger happy when it's their lives in danger, but when it's our lives and property on the line they don't do shit. Fuck the police.
Never once did I say he shouldn't have been killed, my point is that he wasn't killed for the right reasons. He absolutely should have been shot, just not in that specific context.
No reason to assume the shooter was the guy in custody. if I was up to me the shooter and the guy who took the gun would both get the death penalty and charge the family of the guy who got shot with the bill. Fuck everyone involved.
There are versions that go frame-by-frame that show the slide back. It looks like that's what happened; it was either a gun failure (it was a Sig P320, which are notorious for that), or the agent was a moron who had his finger on the trigger.
But, yeah, the first shot is fired accidentally into the ground by an agent. What an absolute disaster of an event.
This is frame where the gun supposedly fired. It's super blurry and pixilated, but you can still see the shape of the officer's black glove, part of the handle of the grey gun, and you can maybe kind of see the gun barrel sticking out of the slide. The officer's finger was not where the trigger would be on the gun. If this is accurate, and it might not be because the footage is super blurry, then this whole incident was caused by a Sig P320 random discharge.
I still don't know that it's true, but good lord would it be the greatest PR disaster in history if the Sig P320 ND'd a year of riots while Sig keeps pretending that the gun dindu nuffin.
You never see a barrel flash, am I supposed to believe this?
This is waco level shit, where they claimed that the cops werent shooting at the people in the compound despite the dozens of weapon flashes on recorded footage.
They really do believe the average american is dumber than dog shit and most of us are out here proving it.
You don't always see the barrel flash. I'm not saying it's definitive, but it's certainly possible. It matches up with timing...but so does the other guy, that I think you mentioned.
That's the tricky thing with this; once you start looking, you can connect all sorts of dots. Whether or not they actually connect.
But it's definitely possible that the gun goes off. And the slide certainly seems to be back. But it is bad quality, and all sorts of things could be happening.
..but I will LAUGH MY ASS OFF if it turns out a Sig had a failure that resulted in this shoot! I bet Sig's PR department is sweating hard at the news their gun was in this mess.
Wait, so is this supposed to be showing that the agent retreating with the gun managed to discharge said firearm after taking it off the guy getting dogpiled? It's not super clear what I'm looking at here.
It looks completely fucked. The shooter is going to jail and probably even the rest of these guys. ICE will be lucky to exist by the end of this clown show of an admin.
If it's any consolation, these protestors aren't stopping anything meaningful. Trump has repeatedly said he's going to let illegals working in certain industries stay. The GOP dominates states like Florida and your Texas and floods them with migrants anyway.
I have speculated that it's a distraction from the lack of deportations, but the Trump admin's commitment to escalating the ICE vs. libtard protestors conflict even as it hurts their midterm prospects makes me wonder if there's a deeper motive.
Yeah, that's bad. I know it's slowmo, so it's a little deceptive because it makes reaction times look different...but the guy removes the gun in clear view of the guy that shoots him in the back, it looks like.
Which also probably means I'm wrong with this post, and it wasn't an ND, although I'd have to go through again and check...but that shot to the back might be the first one. Like I said, both that and the P320 link up audio-wise, but only one can be true.
I'll look over it later, I'm moving on to other things in a bit here.
A bunch of left NPCs are defending Somalian fraudsters from deportation and what might have caused America’s Second Civil War is a ICE agent’s shitty gun ND by itself because it was made by company making a shitty product to cheat their customers.
It has taken days of slow motion analysis from different angles for the entire internet to understand what is happening and it is still not clear. No one can tell wtf is happening on first viewing of the video, let alone in real time in a physical scramble with fucking 120db whistles blowing from all angles. The guy who took the gun could have said "I got the gun" and no one would have heard it.
At around 39 seconds, you can clearly see the agent on the left whip his gun out and point it at his head before pulling the trigger. (well hearing the gunshot) but by the look of his movements, it was him that executed this guy.
It was no accidental discharge, they fucked with this guy because he was there, and when they seen his pistol sticking out they grabbed him and murdered him.
The reason that guy kept firing shots into him after shooting him point blank in the head execution style a few times, is because they were prolly taught if they are gong to kill someone, make sure that the person doesnt live to tell their tale. Popular tactic with law enforcement, and criminals.
They proally legit shit themselves finding out this guy was a legal carrier(something canadians cant even contemplate judging by the comments over on freecanada) and a icu nurse. Good luck painting him as a domestic terrorist, fucking retard trump and his criminal lackeys.
Yes we know. You think all law enforcement are Nazis and “protesters” are the salt of the earth. Sucks he died and these agents will most likely face disciplinary action due to how this went down but I still think it sucks that people are so brainwashed to think that immigration enforcement is a grave evil. It’s never dawned on me to interfere with agents or cops
Frankly, I don't think anyone genuinely knows who fired first yet. This is why a real investigation would have been valuable instead of rioting at the OIS site.
I don't really care. Anybody trying to fight cops who are trying to arrest scamming thieves from another country is on the enemy side. If retarded gun libertarians want to argue about the merits of a good shoot or whatever, that's their problem. Any argument about it from a leftist is fundamentally dishonest no matter what words they're using.
The whole situation looks retarded.
If you value your life don't go do retarded shit.
You can't take your moralisms in the grave with you anyways.
Exactly this. They don't use words the same way we do, they're just trying to find the right magic words to make us do what they want. It's like the demons from Frieren.
I hate to do the pop culture reference thing because of Harry Potter libtards but Frieren talking about demons is just so on point.
Retarded, He wasn't killed for being our enemy, he was killed because the police were overly trigger happy when it's their lives in danger, but when it's our lives and property on the line they don't do shit. Fuck the police.
he was there to stop federal agents from removing foreign criminals from the country
he died in front of a building full of somailian shell companies that embezzle every american's tax dollars to fund terrorism in their home country
death is a KINDNESS compared to what they deserve for this
Never once did I say he shouldn't have been killed, my point is that he wasn't killed for the right reasons. He absolutely should have been shot, just not in that specific context.
Fuck off retard.
He was killed because the cops assumed they were being shot at. It wasn't unreasonable for them to think that from everything i can see so far.
No reason to assume the shooter was the guy in custody. if I was up to me the shooter and the guy who took the gun would both get the death penalty and charge the family of the guy who got shot with the bill. Fuck everyone involved.
The only sympathy I have is for the officers who were compelled to shoot this asshole. They have to live with it.
Don’t care. Start the Civil War already.
Texas's brown people vs. California's brown people in the war to decided who gets to import more brown people
No one who has to fight one wants a Civil War.
Fucked. With. Cops.
There are versions that go frame-by-frame that show the slide back. It looks like that's what happened; it was either a gun failure (it was a Sig P320, which are notorious for that), or the agent was a moron who had his finger on the trigger.
But, yeah, the first shot is fired accidentally into the ground by an agent. What an absolute disaster of an event.
Slowed down version: https://x.com/Landeur/status/2015191223900803407
This is frame where the gun supposedly fired. It's super blurry and pixilated, but you can still see the shape of the officer's black glove, part of the handle of the grey gun, and you can maybe kind of see the gun barrel sticking out of the slide. The officer's finger was not where the trigger would be on the gun. If this is accurate, and it might not be because the footage is super blurry, then this whole incident was caused by a Sig P320 random discharge.
Sig takes yet another life
I still don't know that it's true, but good lord would it be the greatest PR disaster in history if the Sig P320 ND'd a year of riots while Sig keeps pretending that the gun dindu nuffin.
You never see a barrel flash, am I supposed to believe this?
This is waco level shit, where they claimed that the cops werent shooting at the people in the compound despite the dozens of weapon flashes on recorded footage.
They really do believe the average american is dumber than dog shit and most of us are out here proving it.
Catching a muzzle flash on camera is very iffy without an extremely high fps camera.
You don't always see the barrel flash. I'm not saying it's definitive, but it's certainly possible. It matches up with timing...but so does the other guy, that I think you mentioned.
That's the tricky thing with this; once you start looking, you can connect all sorts of dots. Whether or not they actually connect.
But it's definitely possible that the gun goes off. And the slide certainly seems to be back. But it is bad quality, and all sorts of things could be happening.
the video was probably recorded in 30fps, the flash could have come and gone before the next frame was taken.
Why, exactly, do you think you would see a barrel flash? That's literally not supposed to happen on most correctly powered guns.
Here's a Sig P320 going off in a holster. Do you see a flash?
May not be random. Pretti could have modified it with a hair trigger or something.
I know, probably bad timing..
..but I will LAUGH MY ASS OFF if it turns out a Sig had a failure that resulted in this shoot! I bet Sig's PR department is sweating hard at the news their gun was in this mess.
Yeah, I saw some jokes about how wild it would be if Sig caused the next civil war.
Did they ever find out what actually happened with that gun in the Air Force base?
Wait, so is this supposed to be showing that the agent retreating with the gun managed to discharge said firearm after taking it off the guy getting dogpiled? It's not super clear what I'm looking at here.
Yes. After he apparently failed to inform his colleagues that he disarmed the guy like a complete moron.
Yes, this is the allegation from OP here. I can't really see it.
Here's slowmo from the other angle.
https://xcancel.com/AFStreamWatch/status/2015173165081604267#m
It looks completely fucked. The shooter is going to jail and probably even the rest of these guys. ICE will be lucky to exist by the end of this clown show of an admin.
Yea I can see these guys getting in trouble but I’m so sick and tired of the moronic protesters. Stop interfering or getting in front of vehicles.
If it's any consolation, these protestors aren't stopping anything meaningful. Trump has repeatedly said he's going to let illegals working in certain industries stay. The GOP dominates states like Florida and your Texas and floods them with migrants anyway.
Yea I read about that. Makes me wonder what’s the point
I have speculated that it's a distraction from the lack of deportations, but the Trump admin's commitment to escalating the ICE vs. libtard protestors conflict even as it hurts their midterm prospects makes me wonder if there's a deeper motive.
And that makes me imagine the Bildebergs or CFR mapping this out on a RISK style board
If any of them face repercussions then protesters will feel.emboldened to do whatever they want, a feeling leftists know all too well.
Yeah, that's bad. I know it's slowmo, so it's a little deceptive because it makes reaction times look different...but the guy removes the gun in clear view of the guy that shoots him in the back, it looks like.
Which also probably means I'm wrong with this post, and it wasn't an ND, although I'd have to go through again and check...but that shot to the back might be the first one. Like I said, both that and the P320 link up audio-wise, but only one can be true.
I'll look over it later, I'm moving on to other things in a bit here.
You're clear view is like 10 degrees. Unless he actually looked near the holster in the meantime then he didn't know if the gun was there or not.
Dead jew. I don’t care how it happened. Go defend white genocide somewhere else.
This is fucking peek clown world:
A bunch of left NPCs are defending Somalian fraudsters from deportation and what might have caused America’s Second Civil War is a ICE agent’s shitty gun ND by itself because it was made by company making a shitty product to cheat their customers.
It has taken days of slow motion analysis from different angles for the entire internet to understand what is happening and it is still not clear. No one can tell wtf is happening on first viewing of the video, let alone in real time in a physical scramble with fucking 120db whistles blowing from all angles. The guy who took the gun could have said "I got the gun" and no one would have heard it.
https://x.com/EdKrassen/status/2015136838218846345
Watching it for the 5th or 6th time now.
At around 39 seconds, you can clearly see the agent on the left whip his gun out and point it at his head before pulling the trigger. (well hearing the gunshot) but by the look of his movements, it was him that executed this guy.
It was no accidental discharge, they fucked with this guy because he was there, and when they seen his pistol sticking out they grabbed him and murdered him.
The reason that guy kept firing shots into him after shooting him point blank in the head execution style a few times, is because they were prolly taught if they are gong to kill someone, make sure that the person doesnt live to tell their tale. Popular tactic with law enforcement, and criminals.
They proally legit shit themselves finding out this guy was a legal carrier(something canadians cant even contemplate judging by the comments over on freecanada) and a icu nurse. Good luck painting him as a domestic terrorist, fucking retard trump and his criminal lackeys.
Yes we know. You think all law enforcement are Nazis and “protesters” are the salt of the earth. Sucks he died and these agents will most likely face disciplinary action due to how this went down but I still think it sucks that people are so brainwashed to think that immigration enforcement is a grave evil. It’s never dawned on me to interfere with agents or cops
I think you're accidentally removed comments again. Be careful with the mod actions when responding to people.
I sent you a direct message. Wasn’t sure on something and the freaking fat finger hits remove.
Done it once myself, immediately reapproved it and sent the guy an apology.
Extra careful since on my phone when on a train lol.
Not hating on the new modhood, but an accidental discharge of a finger which led to a removal is pretty funny in this thread xD
At least we're not gay enough to admit our f'ups lol
Because covering up your mistakes makes you less of a faggot? Who are you kidding?
Yea I figured out how to undo it lol.
The power is already going to your head? That didn't take long.
Well I admitted my mistake and undid it. Nothing more I can do. Glad you are being vigilant
He's gone mad with power! u/Smith1980, you were the chosen one!
Ha! Thankfully I’ve been able to undo my damage
Or we can think both are bad.Like the shooting of the obnoxious driver earlier, it's the right outcome for the wrong reasons.
Go defend white genocide somewhere else, yid.
Good.
Is Reddit closed because of the snow? Gtfoh you can’t see shit
Does the corpse-to-be start beating his compatriot(the woman), shouting "pig" at her, believing her to be a cop?
I still can't tell that it's an ND.
Frankly, I don't think anyone genuinely knows who fired first yet. This is why a real investigation would have been valuable instead of rioting at the OIS site.