Right before making this post I deleted the apps while laughing. I’ve always had better luck irl. Also, I see the same local women on the dating apps year after year. A lot of times we match but nothing happens. Probably for the better because I can only think “how many dicks have you taken just from this app in the past 5 years” 🤮
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Online dating gives women 100% of all the power. They know you know that they have 100 dudes in their inbox and talking to them on the apps is like pulling teeth.
It’s not even just dating anymore. You’re competing with the whole world for everything these days, and no matter how good you are there’s always someone who’s willing to be cheaper.
It's why it's harder to hold onto a relationship with a modern woman. Every time they whip out the phone, even at a date you're paying for (as rude as that is, imo), it's the equivalent of her being at a club and letting random men run game on her. A lot of these women don't even disable their dating profiles when in relationships (just to see).
Actually, what's worse is that a lot of dating apps supposedly have some really fucky gamed algorithms that penalize peoples' matching chances if they're inactive from the app for any long stretches of time. Probably applies to disabling as well.
Not that this is an especially good excuse by any means, but it's a prime example of how absolutely warped and obtuse some things have gotten.
And it's also an area where a "free market" approach is probably not going to do a damn thing, like it is with so many online/digital products and services that are almost entirely designed to gaslight and deceive their customers, and hold them emotionally hostage while exploiting the hell out of them.
How is that bad? there area already more than enough women who won't give me a chance, I don't need ones that aren't even using the site anymore.
It really isn't even the sites that are at fault, the core problem is related to women even being able to have sexual freedom, the sites just allow us to get a better understanding of why they shouldn't be allowed to have it.
A lot? You have this experience?
And who's fault is that?
Well considering the sheer absurdity of your question, I can only guess at what you mean, so I'll have to approach it from a purely logical perspective. The actors involved here are:
The person who created the profile, allowing others to message them seeking sex
The people who send messages seeking sex on dating sites
Now considering that 2) is entirely ignorant of the fact that 1) already has a dedicated partner, I would put the blame fully at 1)'s feet.
Nowhere was it stated that the girl already had a dedicated boyfriend.
Why is it women's fault because they have higher standards than the average guy who will try to seek out anything with a pulse?
It might sound crazy in whatever shithole you crawled out of, but in the civilized world people are expected to be responsible for their own behaviour.
And a 40% obesity rate is civilized? What about government-supported grooming gangs?
Not men apparently, because you're mad at women that they get more matches, and then fabricate a fake story that the woman already had a boyfriend, then take no responsibility at all for his fake stories.
You're just a retard, got it.
Most men literally can't even get a date. I've been trying for over a decade and never have.
Women shouldn't be permitted to have their insane standards, men's standards have only been driven so low because we have no choice at all, we are forced to scrape the absolute bottom of the barrel for even the hope of getting a woman.
Another "America" thing. Because when I look outside, I don't see "insane standards", I see low standards.
Yeah I'm sorry for trying to get a woman, I should have just accepted death as an incel instead of ever trying.
How about actually addressing the matter and not being passive-aggressive?
Go to the gym. Improve yourself in other ways. Don't be boring. It's not that hard. The most appalling men can get girlfriends.
That may have been enough 40 years ago, but not now.
Enough 40 years ago? It wasn't necessary. It's not even necessary today. I see very few men who are in shape, or who are smart, or who have anything going for them. None of them have any trouble getting a girl (better than they are but obviously not 10/10 supermodels).
Also, you're not confirming that you have done this. Are you simply not doing anything for yourself with the exuse that "it's not enough anyway", as if you shouldn't do it if it only benefited yourself?
Statistics disagree with you. the number of men killing themselves with steroids and gym going out number those who are able to have success with women. IIRC something like 1 in 3 men using online dating regularly go to the gym and 1 in 4 men on online dating are taking steroids and that's far more than the fraction of men who are able to succeed romanticly
You're just spouting anti-male hate blaming us for never being good enough while ignoring the reality right in front of you. The things women care about most are all GENETIC, there is no gym for our face and height. The only hope most men have of getting a girlfriend is government action.
It doesn't benefit myself, it steals time away from things I'd actually enjoy doing and to get any meaningful gains I'd have to put my life at risk with drug cocktails combined with excessive strain.
False. More men have wives than who use steroids. Byh far.
1 in 4? Either that number is stupid, or I am. Because I can't imagine that 3/4 of people at the gym use steroids. They certainly don't look like it. Use some common sense. Do you ever go outside?
It's not my fault that you suck. I'm giving you good advice which would help you, but you'd rather bite the hand that feeds you.
OK, enough trolling for today. You had me fooled for a few messages, but now you're pushing your luck.
Which is? Go do something useful. And be healthy instead of a fat, self-pitying slob.
When I go out, I would estimate that >70% of the women I see are overweight, and at least 45-50% are obese.
What shocks me is how much being overweight makes the ageing process exponentially worse. I've seen women in their 40s who still look good because they're not fat, meanwhile overweight women in their 30s look a lot older than they are.
Men tend to carry weight better, but can still turn into hamplanets if they don't have some muscle underneath.
Fat women in their 20s look like they're in their 40s.
That tracks, about 75% of the American population is fat. I think it's a tie with white men and women, but if you sort it out by race Hispanic and black women are way fatter than Hispanic and black dudes.
I see lots of races at my job (here in Canada) and so many Black women are fat it isn't even funny. Not that there's no fat White women, but the % is "off".
Meanwhile Black men seem to be fairly trim. Same for Arabic men...
In that 18-30 age range.
I seem to come across a lot of blacks and Middle-Easterners in the manosphere spaces and redpill channels. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that alongside Whites, the other races within the 18 - 30 range are attempting to adopt some of the redpill tenets to at least take care of themselves and seek some way to self-improve.
However, there are no such tenets being espoused in female spaces.
I see lots of people at our gas station. All sorts! There's not many thin Black women here in my Province, and fewer still that are good looking. :/
Interesting point how the "self care hard truth" redpill extends across cultures but only with men. The opposite is espoused in female spaces. One of my favorite quotes "Nothing makes a skinny woman happier than being in the same room as a fat chick."
And yet even when we do all the self improvement bullshit and it doesn't work because male attractiveness is largely genetic we're still blamed and viewed as being at fault for not trying hard enough.
When I went to Europe I realized that American women forgot what skinny really is.
Be nice if they could include a weight filter to match the height filter thots get. Would only be fair
If the average guy is an inch or two shorter than advertised, the average woman is probably about 100lbs heavier. These fhots (guess what the f stands for) don't even know how how scales work.
I learned the hard way that if they look a little bit overweight in their carefully curated photos, then they are just simply fat fucks.
They'd just lie. Make them step on a scale for their profile :>
People constantly point fingers about why dating sucks but no one seems to think that maybe dating itself is the problem.
Because freedom breeds evil
Women are the problem.
What’s the solution
Marriage is a handshake between father and groom.
Re enable fatherly headship and acknowledge reality. Girls left unsupervised are prone to wandering off in search of violent dick. Return to slut shaming and virgin marriage. Treat any girl who has been alone with a man for more than 5 minutes as a whore. Ban divorce and bring back shotgun marriages. Restore legitimacy. Bastards are not the father's concern. Unmarried women over 25 go to the convent.
If this sound harsh, realize these were the rules that succeeded for thousands of years and built all of human civilization.
Agreed, it makes a hell of a lot more of problem then the system we have now.
Things won’t change for the better unless there is a complete collapse of the system we live in.
Saar, I would like to introduce you to arranged marriages. ;)
More than 50% of women in America are obese.
On dating apps it's probably like 75% of women. The ones who aren't AND are using dating apps are more crazy than usual.
The crazy women for sure flood the dating sites.
They can attract a guy, but cannot keep them for long because they go batshit insane on a regular basis.
Doesn't surprise me if the non-fat are more likely to have a boyfriend.
Exactly. Slim women on dating sites are not there because it's hard to find a guy, they're there for the high of having 50 guys chasing, or to sleep around
Or they're after something specific from a guy.
Physical characteristics aside, the ideal woman is a combination of introverted and mildly autistic. She’s not interested in attention from strange men, and she’s at least slightly more resistant to purely emotional behavior.
Modern society targets and ruins precisely these women. Social media gives them easy, risk-free access to infinite attention and validation without leaving the house, and anyone with even a hint of autism is immediately tossed into the tranny non-binary pipeline.
Female autists fall for the dumbest BS so easily. I'm not sure they even are more resistant to emotional manipulation than just not as good at doing it back, so they get led about by the nose by all the worst women in their social circles.
Autistic women are only worth a damn if they're raised by a based father in a good community, otherwise they're just default prey for the blue hair cult and/or the trannies.
It's clear that women are generally tuned by biology to be particularly emotionally and socially aware. For the female autists I think an even higher proportion of them than male are actually just generally mentally defective rather than specifically lacking in those areas.
The majority of "autistic" women are the same as women who were "abused" or "raped." Women who are slightly awkward or had some uncomfortable events and exploded it into their entire personality for victim credit. There is nothing actually autistic about it, they are just skin walking a stereotype of it.
The ones that actually do show some autistic traits are the "true femcels" that exist (regular femcels are also just victim crying), which means they (like many male autists) are smelly, overweight, and don't leave the house much to engage in their hobbies more. They are usually not only useless in everything except "owns a vagina" but also incredibly crazy.
I used to "see" a Woman like this, it was just purely physical, she was a cute gamer girl, the Belle Delphine in real life complete with her simp enterouage. I was the dude that would get her to dress up in whatever outfit and she'd just turn up and we'd go at it. Good times.
But after a year or so I think I asked a bit more about her because for the first time when I booty called her she said no, turns out she'd actually been dating one of these simps the whole time and was away with him at the time which is why she couldn't come.
I didn't investigate or care but I just assumed that being a 24/7 available booty call for me for over a year made it hard to have a boyfriend on the side.
So yes, All Women.
meanwhile men like me who are desperate for anything we can get can't even get some fat disgusting slut to give us a chance.
This kind of woman got absolutely oneshotted by the attention economy and doesn't exist anymore.
I can't help but wondering if part of the falling birthrates is due an ever growing proportion of women being entirely unlovable, unattractive trainwrecks.
Lots of men are not worthy husbands and lots of women are not worthy of being wives. But yeah thankfully being “thick” isn’t celebrated anymore
I only know them from coworkers who have used them. Their experiences alone are enough for me to stay the hell away.
My coworkers get dates, the women are just seem to have body counts higher than most prostitutes, and if you factor in your time and energy, probably cost more.
They do stuff like demand STD test results and refuse to take any themselves.
I don't understand one night stands from the male perspective, why spend years of your life looking for a woman just for a few seconds of pleasure and then have to go right back to the hunt not knowing if you'll ever get another chance.
The ones doing one night stands are not spending years on each lay, it's more like hours.
It's in the name, it all happens in one night.
(And I should hope lasts more than a few seconds)
Just because it happens in one night doesn't mean it doesn't take years or even decades to get the opportunity to have.
Also what's wrong with a few seconds? isn't that already a bit of an overestimation of the human ejaculatory experience? I thought even a second of pleasure was on the high end when it came to sexual release.
i mean 50%+ of the population is obese, so you'd expect that.
Yeah I’m sure you seen the video of men asking women “would you date this hypothetical man” and then they describe the woman. Then the woman says “no”
I've been wanting to talk to someone about this.
Obviously I'm relegated to the app's lower tier because I'm not paying them, but, holy fucking shit my midwest state is like 85% land whales. Not just chubby but F-A-T FAT.
I'm talking eyeballs noticably pushed further apart fat. Squirrel cheeks fat. Wearing a repurposed bedsheet fat. Exceeds rated tongue weight fat.
Once I'm through the five or six fake profiles the app baits you with when you first open it, I have to swipe a HUNDRED enormous fatties to find one woman of what used to be averge weight. Every single one has the exact same "my swollen face fills the entire frame" profile picture.
It's unbelievable what has been done to this country. No wonder the 5% of women still smaller than houses have such outrageous egos.
"my swollen face fills the entire frame"
You described it perfectly. I’m stealing this quote from you. Also, it makes sense why good looking women act the way they do. They don’t have much competition
Lizzo was a desperate CIA psy-op to keep the birth rate going.
And coal burners.
Bro I'm over 6 foot visibly in great shape (I have a six pack) and I make nearly 6 figures and I still have the obese being most of my likes these days. It's a cold world lol
What’s scary is I’ve heard lots of guys say the same thing. There needs to be some sort of cultural reset. Online dating was “okay” 10 years ago when tinder first came out. If felt scandalous to be on the app and you were sometimes almost embarrassed to see other people you know on there. Did you try online dating a long time ago? I remember seeing commercials for match.com as a kid and everyone thinking online dating is how you get murdered by a stranger.
Yeah I did in college and used to actually get matches with attractive women. I wasn't trying to use Tinder to hookup though so most of those went nowhere
even ten years ago online dating was shit. women having freedom is the core of the problem.
At least you get likes.
Leave the country. If youre not super nationalist I hear Palestine has girls that need a man to save them. Otherwise Europe has good stock just know that they mileage.
What retarded response is this?
Its a jew telling you to race mix with sand niggers
Tell the Americans you've struck oil!