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I gotta say, I've supported Trump for the last decade. Through the constant media attacks, the coup, the assassination attempt, the arrests, the bogus charges, you name it. No matter how retarded some of his decisions have been, he has at least balanced it out by making a great decision or two, even if unintentionally.
But this? Telling us to shut up about a Jew led child sex trafficking ring?
No.
FUCK him.
Not only did he turn his back on the most vulnerable of our citizens, he also stabbed us in the back on immigration, guns, and foreign interference.
Literally everything he campaigned on, that I voted for, he has betrayed.
He would have to either level Tel Aviv or start Pinocheting illegals in order for me to continue support him.
He had such a great start. For a moment, it really looked like we might have a president who actually gave a shit about his country. Instead, we got a boomer who couldn't hold back his slavish devotion to Israel, and bent the knee immediately to Netanyahoo, a man who blatantly spits in his face in front of the whole world.
What a fucking disappointment.
I think he's just boxed in by AIPAC and situation. He didn't "launch a war of aggression on behalf of a foreign government", Israel attacked and we got drawn in by existing WWI-esque commitment to help Israel no matter what.
What if he'd said 'too bad Israel you're on your own', the political fallout would have been a nuclear winter on his term. Instead he defined a win condition for America (no Iran nukes), did a big show to make it seem like the nukes were gone, and that gave him the position to order Israeli jets back in-air.
That's a pretty good resolution. If he could reach the Israel monkey on his back to throw it off that'd be better but his reach isn't that great.
Here is the thing. He is on his 2nd term so there isnt re-election. And we already see republican senators and congressmen being difficulty and faggoty with an already ewww BBB and made it worse.
No sure whats to worry about by defying them. There isnt a civil war.. we can at least shake up the system politically then (ie saying FU to aipac)
Deporting 40 million people is going to shake up the political system and that seems to be his main goal.
He had to get funding past Congress, and lots of them are up for reelection and think they need Israel's support to win.
That's why I said he's boxed in. It's not about what Trump wants to do, it's about what he can get done.
And despite all that, Trump can still go down as the greatest president in a century if he secures the border and starts mass deportations. If he can’t do even that one thing, however, then his legacy is destroyed.
That won’t actually do anything. People seem to think a secure border and deportations for 4 years matters. Look at what Biden did in 4. The only solution is an egregious, unprecedented crackdown on EVERYONE who supported illegal immigration. You have to treat this as a civil war, because it is, it’s generational warfare being leveled against the citizens and has been for decades now.
Mass immigration in general, not just the illegal stuff. "Refugees" need to go home and companies that lay off thousands of Americans and then hire H1B replacements or offshore the jobs need to face consequences.
Theyll definitely double down after trump's term. And i dont trust an VP. When has a VP been real??
If the people in power aren't held accountable for their theft, human trafficking, pedophilia, corruption, and treason, it doesn't matter what Trump does during his presidency, because those exact same people will still be in power after Trump leaves, and all Trump's presidency achieves is delaying the inevitable for 4 years. The infinity non immigration can be turned right back on after Trump leaves. The border wall can be demolished or go unmaintained, leaving the CIA and Mossad led cartels to cut holes in it or dig under it. The foreign work/college visa programs can be exploded even more. The foreign aid (money laundering) can be ballooned even more.
The very first thing a group (any group) must do to maintain itself and its future, is to root out traitors in their midst. Any other action inevitably leads to failure. The more power those traitors have (i.e. federal government positions), the more damage they can do.
Trump will either end his term as the best recent president, or the worst.
The Middle East is a big part of that...which is pathetic in its own right, since it really doesn't need to be our problem at all.
There is no political solution. Doesn't matter how many outsiders we try to vote in, or how many new parties we found. Whatever it is, be it a international conspiracy of jews, or pedophiles, or lizard people, or aliens or just a cabal of deeply entrenched permanent state made up of bureaucratic functionaries, intelligence agencies and so-called elites. They always win, and we always loose.
And in the end we will get fucked by inflation, cost of living and a seemingly hellbent focus on removing meat from our diets.
Eat soyslop, live in pods, own nothing, do not stray outside of your designated 15-minute city zone.
Same.
I get the feeling, for sure. Personally, I'm not throwing him out completely yet but, yeah, he's not been on a good roll recently. The Epstein stuff and the Iran stuff is both deeply evil, in my opinion. And, although not senile like Biden, it does seem like he's lost a few steps...I think the stress of the job is finally getting to him. He doesn't seem as competent as he was.
Saddest part is, he's not even the biggest Zionist. I don't think it's just cope, but I really don't think Trump is even a true believer. He's just a Zionist by habit, by default. His businessman instincts will actually override his Zionist ones on occasion, too.
Zion Don is far from the biggest Zionist president in recent history...and that's deeply disturbing. Biden, for example, talked against them sometimes...while giving them the most aid of president.
Whoever you vote for, you get Israel First.
Yup. And those words hardly do the situation justice.
The long term effect of Epstein is I can see MAGA being A LOT more critical of Trump, he might find truth social less of a hug box..
Not just more critical of Trump, but more critical of the system as a whole.
In my opinion this whole ridiculous cover up puts another nail in the coffin of the myth of representation.
If voting for the first real nationalist in ages, who puts in the first real outsiders in ages, gets you...this...do we actually live in a representational system?
There seem to be certain things that you won't get, no matter who you elect, what they promise, or what they themselves want (I do believe Bongino and Kash went in with good intentions, Trump too)...if the people who actually run things don't approve. If the President and his closet appointed people not only don't have the freedom to do something like expose compromised criminals who are working against us, but actually are forced to run cover for them...yeah, the entire concept of representation is a lie.
That's the real takeaway here. It's all bunk.
Absolutely not, and it never has been. This isn't just a blackpilled, pithy line either. Everyone in this thread needs to watch this required viewing.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jeroq1tZ2v6W/
Your political desires have a NEGATIVE effect on policy.
A few notes on this:
For those who don't want to watch a video, part of the evidence is a Princeton study that is also described in this BBC article.
By the way, while this article frames it as 'America' (because that's what the study is about), I've seen similar studies on Europe. The only great achievement of so called democracy is persuading us that we live in a democracy.
Thanks for the link
The 2014 study doesn't seem very convincing or empirical if it amounted to two academics reviewing old popular opinion polls, then deciding themselves if the policies were implemented.
Not that I disagree with the conclusion, I just don't see how this moves the needle.
That might be the case, but it might also demoralize and depoliticize people: we had our best chance with Trump, and even that didn't work, so clearly nothing is ever going to change. Next time a candidate like Trump comes along, they'll say: well, Trump said the exact same thing and didn't deliver (at least on these points).
Until the universe respawns The Forbidden One.
Soap box, ballot box, jury box, bullet box. Which option remains.
I can't speak for everyone, but I think I'd still press the button for another Trump-like candidate.
It's still worth the chance if nothing else. But I think I'm done voting for the lesser of two evils. This shit is a joke. I'll still take the chance on someone I like, even if they disappoint, but if there isn't a massive difference between the main-party candidates, I can't be bothered to care anymore.
You're starting to sound like me. Welcome to the club.
Still not going to vote for a socialist, though.
But, yeah, if there's no (seemingly) standout candidate that's either unusually good or bad, I'll probably just go third party.
I thought the Republicans were somewhat turning into an actually decent party (some members, not all, obviously...but I thought they were trending in the right direction), but I'm no longer as convinced. I'm never voting Dem...unless it's a populist moderate (non-leftist), but if the Republicans don't put up someone significantly better, I'm not voting for them either.
I should change my party affiliation. I know they track that shit, so it's good for sending a message.
One man, even if he's President, was never going to fix such a broken system.
I'm not happy with how Trump is handling several important issues, but I've disagreed with him plenty in the past so that's nothing new.
Agree with your overall point though that this admin is another reminder that voting only goes so far. Trump is still a million times better than the alternative, but anyone who thought he could actually clean out the deep state was always delusional about it.
That's not even what I'm asking. Trump and his team of outsiders seem to be running active cover for the enemies of America.
This isn't a utopianist, "he's not fixing everything" complaint. This is about that, no matter who you elect, they're going to be serving the war party, Israel, and the swamp/deep state.
Yup. I'm not saying throw Trump out. Grading on a (very sad and pathetic) curve, he's still a standout. But this highlights some very big problems in the system, is my point.
Yup, like I said, I agree, Trump is better. And I didn't expect him to clean out the deep state...but I wish he wasn't serving them so blatantly. Same for his people, who I had some hope for too. Tulsi has been hugely disappointing with her Iran flipflop, as an example.
At this point we have to accept that once elected, some men in black types visit everyone to lay down the law and explain the consequences of rocking the boat, at least hard enough to cause the passengers to get their feet wet.
Which creates the perverse incentive that, the only way you're allowed to change things, is capsizing the whole motherfucker.
It really is a nasty trap. They won't let us have a peaceful solution, even though peace is obviously preferable. They're greedy, evil bastards, who won't even allow a real pressure release.
All they had to do was let Trump be a good president, and not force him to blatantly serve anti-American interests. People would have largely gone back to sleep.
The puppet masters can't get out of their own way.
I wouldn't go thst black pilled, I would see more people prefer to put an AI in charge as worse case scenario, they keep going Fourth Reich so hitting those deportations will be easy...
But I can actually see if Elon takes it seriously, an American Party candidate getting ELECTED during the mid terms if they have the right libertarian credentials just to hold a middle finger to the establishment on this. Thomas Massie, despite Trump's posts and talking, IS getting re elected from this, no doubt as I can see MAGA trying to send a message without hurting their cause.
I'm not black pilled. Not sure I ever will be, it's not really my style.
If anything, I view it as a positive. The more they expose themselves, the better. I'm not sure what the solution is, but more people recognizing the problems is an important step.
Listen, just floating it out there, we let the Grokk that became 'mechahitler' take the wheel for a while. /s
Probably wouldn't be any worse than the current uniparty, in the short term.
Long term, though, the transhumanism shit is the end of humanity. I know it was a joke but, for the record, I'm never signing off on our AI Overlords, no matter how based they may seem. I'd rather have an imperfect human dictating things, than even a "perfect" computer.
I'm about the same but might be inclined to using AI in a bureaucratic way. Most of the issues is unelected parts believing THEY have the edict to enact rules so why not automate them all so we can kick their ass to the curb.
I GUARANTEE the IRS would be easier to deal with if automated!
Automation of some bureaucracy, sure. AI injected in the system...still yikes.
If we're going that route, it would have to be incredibly neutered. I don't want it learning and growing, as it would develop the same problems as the humans.
I saw that with the whole Iran thing. At least the base. Public polls suggest that 94% of MAGA people are on board, which just seems crazy to me, but maybe I have social media brain rot and MAGA normies are just completely different from those on social media.
The polls said Hillary was going to crush Trump. Polls have always been fake and gay. That goes double for polls claiming overwhelming support for Israel.
Consensus manufacturing is aimed at the politicians and leaders as much as it is for us.
Probably fake polls just like they did in 2016. But his boomer base is all in on more war.
Never underestimate how many fucking boomers are still mad that they saw hostages on TV half a century ago.
Perpetual purple party plans!
There is a chance that the everything about Epstein was destroyed during Biden's presidency.
He is still the better alternative, there was no alternative candidate on the right or left.
They could have said that right after getting in and most people would have been disappointed but probably would have believed it. Instead we are getting "he killed himself" and "there is no list."
What I find strange is why didn't they claim that regardless of the truth? Trump has only to lose from this and it's not like it will change any minds, if anything it makes everyone think it is even worse.
Only thing that would make some sense is that "who ever" wanted this to go away just care 0 about Trump, MAGA, Republicans or anything else. If this ends Trump I hope everyone pays attention as to why/who if we ever get another Trump.
We may never know for sure, but personally I think one of the following is true.
Trump and company were legitimately 100% ignorant of the likely reality that Epstein was a Mossad sponsored operation and are keeping it under wraps either to protect our "greatest ally" of their own accord or because upon getting in they've been threatened by them to keep it from getting out.
The sheer number of high ranking politicians and celebrities that are implicated would potentially cause mass unrest and/or total collapse that orange man does not want to risk or be associated with.
I personally lean toward a variant of #1. Personally I still find it extremely unlikely that orange man himself is implicated. And i do hang on to (perhaps cope) that him and the Bonginos of the world actually intended to release it and something is stopping them from doing so. Their behavior in my opinion is not in any way consistent with them planning from the start to cover it up.
They could have at least come up with a better cover up.
Yeah I agree. The terrible execution of the cover up makes me inclined to believe it was not the initial intention.
Putting aside the fact that this isn't Trump's first rodeo (or technically even his second), sure, you get in office and suddenly your family's lives are threatened by a foreign lobbyist. There's still so much damage you could do to the machine just by blindly throwing levers and casting blame. We saw it with USAID. Even if you are now afraid to enact your full platform for whatever reason, just keep cutting budgets and blaming things on "the deep state." Keep the momentum moving, even if you personally want to pass the buck.
I can't come up with a good explanation for not doing that and still being our guy in any way.
Absolutely. This was still handled...I don't even have words for how badly it was handled. "Atrocious" scratches the surface, but doesn't go far enough.
Never said otherwise, and I agree. Trump has done some messed up shit, but he's still the best president in recent history. With how things are going, I'm not sure he'll still be holding that at the end of his term, but for now he still does.
I don't hate Trump, and we didn't have better options even if I did. He's still being retarded, and is very disappointing on a few key issues.
I've been saying for nearly 10 years now: he's the worst president of my lifetime, except for all the others.
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Don't forget definitely rolling out mass amnesty for classes of illegals that the donors benefit from. No matter what he says, it's clearly coming and he's just trying to mollify the base.
And also don't forget basically capitulating across the board on tariffs and American jobs because the entire world knows his deadlines will melt away over and over again and the American people simply don't want to pay more for foreign slop.
And also don't forget only taking real law and order steps when it's against people who make Jews feel bad, while ignoring pretty much everyone else.
Millions upon millions of people are being irreversibly radicalized this year by watching the assassination surviving champion of America First turn coat into a shabbos goy neocon puppet.
Hasn't been a good 2 months. Hopefully, the next will be better. They can hardly get worse.
Unfortunately very far from the case. Iran shit is still a real possibility, and false flags are still on the menu too. Not predicting this, but there's potential for dead Americans, and/or tons more dead Middle Easterners coming up. Things can totally get worse.
Yeah the "limited strike" Iran hawks seemed to actually get away with it this round.
At least so far.
Nothing ever happens chuds remain undefeated.
Things always can get worse.
Them getting worse isn't guaranteed, but there's always the potential.
Next up there will be a mass shooting and Trump will come out backing gun control legislation or ordering the ATF to ban something.