Human brains are ridiculously good at observing and recognizing patterns, as a learned survival trait. Modern people have been thoroughly brainwashed to not recognize patterns, because that would disrupt the egalitarian, race blind, tabula rasa propaganda, to convince White people to not fight back against being ethnically replaced and genocided.
I mean the Iran attacks were at least plausibly militarily targeted. Nevermind there's been no declaration of war and they did the classic bit of using peace talks to stall while the attacks were prepped.
But with Gaza yeah, holy shit, I think civilians are being targeted.
They could probably negociate worldwide military support if they accepted to withdraw their colonists to the confines of the UN Palestine partition plan. They have no intention of doing that. They want to take more.
Shouldn't you be fighting towelheads, jew? Or are you except because they dont let 85 iq mentally retarded jew housewives do anything but post online for a quarter shekel
Because its an obvious military target, and we live in the modern era with missiles that means they can technically hit anywhere they want without care of where its buried.
Its a question of caring about the morals/ethics of protecting civilians from the consequences of war, or simply only caring about the logistics of "making it easier for us to get to work."
Its a question of caring about the morals/ethics of protecting civilians from the consequences of war
I honestly don't think anyone in the ME is asking this.
When Smith was arguing with Murray about understanding that war means kids being buried alive under rubble until they finally starve to death and die; Smith failed to understand that as a man who's morals stem from Liberalism, he was the only one not advocating for that. Liberal morality isn't Universal, and there's no more clear evidence of that than Middle-Eastern wars.
You asked why a military building should be away from a city, I gave you an answer.
Specifically choosing to use those buildings because they are civilian, instead of simply the laze and ease of the US building near places they live, is a moral evil regardless of what label you want to assign to it. Its always a moral failing that puts the lives of civilians at risk for your own war purposes, and anyone (no matter what country) that does so is telling you everything you need to know about how pathetic and uncaring they are about those lives.
Its always a moral failing that puts the lives of civilians at risk for your own war purposes, and anyone (no matter what country) that does so is telling you everything you need to know about how pathetic and uncaring they are about those lives.
I didn't ask why a military building should be away from a city. And this explanation doesn't make sense. You're inferring that an administrative building is built in a city to cause civilian deaths. No military does that. They put administrative buildings in cities so that administrators can go to work more easily. That's certainly not similar to a strategy where you intentionally disguise ammunition dumps, bunkers, launch sites, sniper positions, mortar positions, and emplaced machine gun or artillery positions as non-combatant structures like hospitals, schools, or religious buildings. One is just a military building being used by the organization, the other is an attempt to use mercy as a weapon against the attacker, and to falsely claim civilian deaths for propaganda purposes. These concepts are simply not related, nor are they morally equivalent. One is a tactic to intentionally endanger civilians by using offensive ROE as a weapon, and the other is nothing more than civil engineering.
If you want to call it a "moral failing", then you need to accept that this is a "moral failing" that every single military on earth has. I can't think of a single military force in human history where a standing, peacetime, military organization made sure to place all military owned structures, vehicles, equipment, animals, and personnel outside of all non-military populations. Not one. Even going back to the Raid on the Medway in the 2nd Anglo-Dutch War. The situation gets worse in the ancient world, or with tribes, or with militias, because the active militaries are typically embedded with the population, or literally standing guard surrounding it. And then there's castles! Whole populations of entire towns held in military fortifications.
They put administrative buildings in cities so that administrators can go to work more easily.
or simply only caring about the logistics of "making it easier for us to get to work."
That is literally what I said the US did. They did it for a lazy reason, but its still a moral failing because regardless of how you slice it its a building of military importance that is within range of considerable civilian destruction. Its not intentionally shielding, but its involving them regardless.
Those who use them as an actual meat shield are committing a greater scale moral failing, but its the same scale with a 2/10 and a 10/10 on it.
then you need to accept that this is a "moral failing" that every single military on earth has
It is, because the modern world is built on not having actual "hot" wars often enough that they rest on their laurels and don't even care to think about it. Those that are embroiled in such wars often, like Africa, South America, and the ME jump the ship hard enough to simply hide behind civilians anyway.
The situation gets worse in the ancient world
and we live in the modern era with missiles that means they can technically hit anywhere they want without care of where its buried
Also already acknowledged. Pre-modern war had lines where you had to get through to actually commit direct warfare damage. You aren't getting to the civilians behind the walls without, you know, breaching the walls.
Now that we have technology that render those points more moot, its a lot more important where you place your target in expecting retaliation.
I'll accept your acknowledgement, though it's still silly to me.
I think the technology in modern warfare makes the whole concept of separating military and civilian effectively impossible because we have pushed very hard into irregular warfare and strikes "behind the front lines" by drones, rockets, air strikes, special forces raids, saboteurs, terrorism, and light-infantry tactics. I think the era of not involving civilian populations is now well and truly dead (and was really just a remnant of 19th century warfare).
In WW2 the British bombed the civilians of French cities to "target those working for the Nazis". How did they know which buildings housed these "collaborators" is lost to history. 🙄 Nor has it been explained how carpet bombing is accurate enough to avoid non-targeted buildings. (hint: like Iran's missiles? It hits random targets within a wide area.)
"Decapitation" victories are largely mythological, there are only two ways forward here. Either Israel has Iranian rebels in place to seize power after a coup or they drag the US in to fight the war for them.
If I were a soldier serving on any US boats in the Mediterranean right now I'd be very worried about mysteriously unmarked jets flying overhead.
There was no decapitation. The Iranian military isn't structured like that. Besides with these bombings Israel only ensured that the Iranians will rally behind the government. So dragging the US into war it is and so far Trump has shown himself to be a good goy by deceiving Iran with the 'negotiations'.
I like how I kept hearing about how Israel had killed a bunch of Iran's nuclear scientists.
I'm like, "killing their scientists is supposed to be a good thing?" I mean, obviously it is for Israel, but to my feeble gentile brain that seems like targeting non-combatants.
Is OP really claiming that Iran's low-accuracy missiles are not fired at a wide target area almost entirely filled with civilians? While the IDF hit specific apartment buildings IN A SPECIFIC APARTMENT with pinpoint precision.
As always, the Muslims aim FOR civilians in every conflict, while the IDF aims at military targets often hiding behind civilians.
Iran can claim they're shooting at military targets, but with a missile who's accuracy is measured in 100's of meters? As opposed to IDF bombs with accuracy 1-2 meters? It's not "the same" at all.
the IDF hit specific apartment buildings IN A SPECIFIC APARTMENT with pinpoint precision.
Then why didn't they do this in Gaza -- an area that is, to my understanding, strictly under their embargo control and should therefore be much easier to pull off?
The embargo doesn't help targeting, eh?
Hamas hides under the buildings, they hide under the hospitals too. That's why. It is because Hamas hides behind civilians. Yet the IDF still manages these pinpoint strikes in Gaza, picking off specific cars & buildings with Hamas bigwigs in them.
They literally targeted the bedrooms of the targets in Iran. They carpet bombed the entire gaza area. Something tells me that it seems Israeli accuracy drops severely when it is convenient. Also Iran retaliating against an attack is fully in their rights. Jews shouldn't start crying when they get punched for being a insufferable twat.
The IDF never "carpet bombed" anything. You clearly don't know what that term means.
Yes, retaliation is "within their rights" but Iran has been aggressively attacking Israel for a decade now, it's not like they don't have ample blood on their hands.
Anytime civilians are deliberately targeted by a military action is a war crime, really. A military target "in his bedroom" is still a military target. If he's hiding behind civilians their deaths are his fault.
You have a point that people really don't want to hear, as do the critics of people who complain about Iran "bombing population centers" when Tehran is a far greater population center than any place in Israel. I haven't seen evidence that Iran is actually targeting civilians, though it wouldn't surprise me either. And if it's just an issue of 'inaccurate weapons', then it's not targeting civilians either. BTW, nuclear scientists are civilians.
Western hypocrisy is just a state religion at this point. Right now, they're lying that Israel only targeted 'nuclear sites' (which would also be illegal aggression), while Iran targeted 'population centers' (see Macron). I'm guessing that they are doing this because they don't like that Iran is sending weapons to Russia.
That said, people here have gone so far in their hatred of Jews that they're now advocating for Islam, rather than just advocating against wars. Of course, many of them don't really care about the wars, they just want to kill the Jews.
Nonsense. They're working for the military? Building & researching weapons? They're no longer civilians.
if it's just an issue of 'inaccurate weapons', then it's not targeting civilians either.
Nonsense. They fire at a wide area filled with civilians, that entire area & the civilians in it are the target. Just like the British bombing French cities in WW2. They claimed to be hitting the French workers helping the Nazis, but they had no idea who those people were, they just bombed French civilian houses. Same for the Yanks carpet bombing civilian areas of German cities to "hit factory workers". They didn't even pretend against Japan, they straight up said they were killing civilians. :/
Were the atomic bombs also "not targeting civilians" like the Iranian missiles?
Nonsense. They're working for the military? Building & researching weapons? They're no longer civilians.
Yeah, I don't know about that, but I'm absolutely sure that nuclear scientists working for universities are civilians.
They fire at a wide area filled with civilians, that entire area & the civilians in it are the target. Just like the British bombing French cities in WW2.
Or German cities in WW2. Note that Israel has often cited Dresden, which I agree with you was very bad, as a reason why it is justified in doing what it is doing. Either all of it is OK, or none of it is OK, etc.
Were the atomic bombs also "not targeting civilians" like the Iranian missiles?
What I said was an arguendo. I don't know that the Iranian missiles are inaccurate, let alone as inaccurate as you say they are. Also, you're going off purely on your own logic. These are legal questions. What may appear logical to you or me isn't necessarily how things work out.
Working AT universities, doing 100% army & military research. Still contributing to nuclear weapons which Iran will no longer be allowed to get. No thanks to Obama and Biden funding them, and funding Iran's proxy terrorism. 🙁
Yes, Dresden was a war crime, but so were most of the other British and American bombing campaigns. British bombers hitting French cities & killing Frenchmen on purpose is something they've tried to erase from the history books, eh?
The longer the range? The lower the accuracy. Unless they are self-guiding, which Iran's ballistic missiles are NOT, the area they might land on gets bigger & bigger. This is just a hard fact, nothing to do with my opinions.
It's like a crowd of people & there's 2 enemy gang members among them. A sniper might hit only the enemy, with some chance of collateral damage, but 4 guys "with 9s" will probably hit everyone BUT the enemy. That's the difference here.
Working AT universities, doing 100% army & military research. Still contributing to nuclear weapons which Iran will no longer be allowed to get
All claims without a shred of evidence, of course. But nice reprise of "weapons of mass destruction".
No thanks to Obama and Biden funding them
My friend, Obama and Biden weren't "funding" them. That was their own money, like Russian reserves stolen by the West are their own money. One would think that the right would be slightly less retarded about the Obama nuclear deal, considering recent developments.
and funding Iran's proxy terrorism. 🙁
Hmm... several car bombs just went off in Iran. I wonder what you would say if Westerners working on "army & military research" started being targeted with car bombs.
The longer the range? The lower the accuracy. Unless they are self-guiding, which Iran's ballistic missiles are NOT, the area they might land on gets bigger & bigger. This is just a hard fact, nothing to do with my opinions.
See, I have no way of verifying that. But let's assume it is a "hard fact", and that your claims about international law are also correct. This means that "everyone should be a sitting duck and do absolutely nothing while we bomb them into the Stone Age", right?
But nice reprise of "weapons of mass destruction".
Saddam DID have WMDs, he shipped them to Syria when the second invasion was imminent. The final UN Report said so, said he was reviving his atomic weapons program too, if only the early stages. Everything the Media said was a lie, yet you defend them? Curious.
My friend, Obama and Biden weren't "funding" them. That was their own money,
It belonged to the people of Iran through the previous government which had been overthrown by violent revolution. They gave them the billions knowing full well it would never be spent on anything other than weapons and terrorism. And caviar, hookers & blow of course.
The holdings of the Tsar's family are still withheld from USSR/Russia you know? Over a century later. This is normal.
Not funding proxy terrorism? Please don't insult me, dude. Iran funds terrorism in Yemen, Lebanon & Gaza as well as probably a dozen other places too.
This means that "everyone should be a sitting duck and do absolutely nothing while we bomb them into the Stone Age", right?
I have no idea what this sentence means. 🙄 Are you saying civilians are sitting ducks? Well DUH they always have been, since the days of Rome at least. What exactly can civilians do? If their nation goes to war, bombs (or pilum) are going to fall. Responsible governments make efforts to protect civilians in case of war. Hamas made efforts to put civilians in harm's way.
Saddam DID have WMDs, he shipped them to Syria when the second invasion was imminent
LOL.
Everything the Media said was a lie, yet you defend them? Curious.
Yeah, the media supported your WMD hoax when it mattered, and you do believe them, and defend their lie 22 years later. Apparently only if they're aligned with the Deep State.
It belonged to the people of Iran through the previous government which had been overthrown by violent revolution.
First of all, it belonged to the Iranian 'state', not some vague idea of 'people' - which of course coincides with the Deep State deciding what happens in a country. Secondly, you're talking about a minuscule fraction of the Iranian assets that were stolen by the West.
Also, guess what another violent coup was... Ukraine's Maidan coup. But this is an argument of opportunity that you will only cite when it aligns with Deep State interests.
The holdings of the Tsar's family are still withheld from USSR/Russia you know?
Their personal holdings != possessions of the Russian state.
Not funding proxy terrorism? Please don't insult me, dude.
I try not to, because at least you don't voice the same opinions as the Hivemind here - you probably get insulted enough for being somewhat independent on your thought. But it's hard because you're propounding the WMD hoax in 2025, which even the most rabid neocon is too embarrassed to do.
Iran funds terrorism in Yemen, Lebanon & Gaza as well as probably a dozen other places too.
So... they do what the US did in Syria and many other places? Time to seize US assets to prevent it from funding terrorism.
Are you saying civilians are sitting ducks?
No, I'm saying that what you demand is that every country be a sitting duck for every Western bombing campaign, because you'll nitpick every attempt to hit back with anything but the most hypermodern 'accurate' weapons in retaliation.
Literally crying out in pain as they hit someone else.
Funny how literally nothing has changed over the last century.
"Stereotyping people is wrong and racist!"
We wouldn't meme these people if they stopped acting like the meme.
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
You've won a one way trip to gulag for your antisemitisms.
The the popsci ideas surrounding stereotyping are not only wrong, it is malicious.
Human brains are ridiculously good at observing and recognizing patterns, as a learned survival trait. Modern people have been thoroughly brainwashed to not recognize patterns, because that would disrupt the egalitarian, race blind, tabula rasa propaganda, to convince White people to not fight back against being ethnically replaced and genocided.
Yeah, just look at a cloud.
Two, if not four millennia
I mean the Iran attacks were at least plausibly militarily targeted. Nevermind there's been no declaration of war and they did the classic bit of using peace talks to stall while the attacks were prepped.
But with Gaza yeah, holy shit, I think civilians are being targeted.
Their explicit goal is to steal more land.
They could probably negociate worldwide military support if they accepted to withdraw their colonists to the confines of the UN Palestine partition plan. They have no intention of doing that. They want to take more.
And the brazen hypocrisy remains as insufferable as on all the other days ending in -y.
Then one day
For NO REASON AT ALL YOU FILTHY GOYIM AMTISEMITESoyveyoyveyoyvey
silence is dreadful
time to play my favourite kanye west song
NHH
Have they added that one to everyone's favorite repository, yet?
It's on my Playlist.
https://x.com/vintagevault8/status/1934052570592379138
They're no different than Hamas.
You're wrong. They are way worse than hamas. Hamas is just a puppet controlled opposition force paid for by israel. They ARE hamas.
Except Hamas sets up its watering holes in schools and hospitals and Israel avoids bombing civilian areas whenever possible.
That's stupid. That's like complaining that the pentagon was hit because it's in DC.
No shit, it's a head quarters building. Why would be away from a city when it's administrative?
There's a big difference between using a school or mosque as an ammo dump, and having an office building in a city.
Shouldn't you be fighting towelheads, jew? Or are you except because they dont let 85 iq mentally retarded jew housewives do anything but post online for a quarter shekel
I'm not at war, fatty.
Because its an obvious military target, and we live in the modern era with missiles that means they can technically hit anywhere they want without care of where its buried.
Its a question of caring about the morals/ethics of protecting civilians from the consequences of war, or simply only caring about the logistics of "making it easier for us to get to work."
I honestly don't think anyone in the ME is asking this.
When Smith was arguing with Murray about understanding that war means kids being buried alive under rubble until they finally starve to death and die; Smith failed to understand that as a man who's morals stem from Liberalism, he was the only one not advocating for that. Liberal morality isn't Universal, and there's no more clear evidence of that than Middle-Eastern wars.
You asked why a military building should be away from a city, I gave you an answer.
Specifically choosing to use those buildings because they are civilian, instead of simply the laze and ease of the US building near places they live, is a moral evil regardless of what label you want to assign to it. Its always a moral failing that puts the lives of civilians at risk for your own war purposes, and anyone (no matter what country) that does so is telling you everything you need to know about how pathetic and uncaring they are about those lives.
I didn't ask why a military building should be away from a city. And this explanation doesn't make sense. You're inferring that an administrative building is built in a city to cause civilian deaths. No military does that. They put administrative buildings in cities so that administrators can go to work more easily. That's certainly not similar to a strategy where you intentionally disguise ammunition dumps, bunkers, launch sites, sniper positions, mortar positions, and emplaced machine gun or artillery positions as non-combatant structures like hospitals, schools, or religious buildings. One is just a military building being used by the organization, the other is an attempt to use mercy as a weapon against the attacker, and to falsely claim civilian deaths for propaganda purposes. These concepts are simply not related, nor are they morally equivalent. One is a tactic to intentionally endanger civilians by using offensive ROE as a weapon, and the other is nothing more than civil engineering.
If you want to call it a "moral failing", then you need to accept that this is a "moral failing" that every single military on earth has. I can't think of a single military force in human history where a standing, peacetime, military organization made sure to place all military owned structures, vehicles, equipment, animals, and personnel outside of all non-military populations. Not one. Even going back to the Raid on the Medway in the 2nd Anglo-Dutch War. The situation gets worse in the ancient world, or with tribes, or with militias, because the active militaries are typically embedded with the population, or literally standing guard surrounding it. And then there's castles! Whole populations of entire towns held in military fortifications.
That is literally what I said the US did. They did it for a lazy reason, but its still a moral failing because regardless of how you slice it its a building of military importance that is within range of considerable civilian destruction. Its not intentionally shielding, but its involving them regardless.
Those who use them as an actual meat shield are committing a greater scale moral failing, but its the same scale with a 2/10 and a 10/10 on it.
It is, because the modern world is built on not having actual "hot" wars often enough that they rest on their laurels and don't even care to think about it. Those that are embroiled in such wars often, like Africa, South America, and the ME jump the ship hard enough to simply hide behind civilians anyway.
Also already acknowledged. Pre-modern war had lines where you had to get through to actually commit direct warfare damage. You aren't getting to the civilians behind the walls without, you know, breaching the walls.
Now that we have technology that render those points more moot, its a lot more important where you place your target in expecting retaliation.
I'll accept your acknowledgement, though it's still silly to me.
I think the technology in modern warfare makes the whole concept of separating military and civilian effectively impossible because we have pushed very hard into irregular warfare and strikes "behind the front lines" by drones, rockets, air strikes, special forces raids, saboteurs, terrorism, and light-infantry tactics. I think the era of not involving civilian populations is now well and truly dead (and was really just a remnant of 19th century warfare).
In WW2 the British bombed the civilians of French cities to "target those working for the Nazis". How did they know which buildings housed these "collaborators" is lost to history. 🙄 Nor has it been explained how carpet bombing is accurate enough to avoid non-targeted buildings. (hint: like Iran's missiles? It hits random targets within a wide area.)
"Decapitation" victories are largely mythological, there are only two ways forward here. Either Israel has Iranian rebels in place to seize power after a coup or they drag the US in to fight the war for them.
If I were a soldier serving on any US boats in the Mediterranean right now I'd be very worried about mysteriously unmarked jets flying overhead.
There was no decapitation. The Iranian military isn't structured like that. Besides with these bombings Israel only ensured that the Iranians will rally behind the government. So dragging the US into war it is and so far Trump has shown himself to be a good goy by deceiving Iran with the 'negotiations'.
Stop crying about "the world". You know you don't care what the world thinks.
You're a military.
It's a war.
Do your job?
The IDF prefers to bomb defenseless targets. Bombing targets that'll shoot back is Americas job.
Sure Jan, no military would hit a civilian target unless it was the IDF. Name one civilian casualty caused by any military that wasn't Israeli.
You should at least make sure your strawman at least fits my statement.
To be fair, Afghan weddings do often shoot (randomly) into the air.
I thought that was weddings in Serbia? 😧
I like how I kept hearing about how Israel had killed a bunch of Iran's nuclear scientists.
I'm like, "killing their scientists is supposed to be a good thing?" I mean, obviously it is for Israel, but to my feeble gentile brain that seems like targeting non-combatants.
Is OP really claiming that Iran's low-accuracy missiles are not fired at a wide target area almost entirely filled with civilians? While the IDF hit specific apartment buildings IN A SPECIFIC APARTMENT with pinpoint precision.
As always, the Muslims aim FOR civilians in every conflict, while the IDF aims at military targets often hiding behind civilians.
Iran can claim they're shooting at military targets, but with a missile who's accuracy is measured in 100's of meters? As opposed to IDF bombs with accuracy 1-2 meters? It's not "the same" at all.
Then why didn't they do this in Gaza -- an area that is, to my understanding, strictly under their embargo control and should therefore be much easier to pull off?
The embargo doesn't help targeting, eh?
Hamas hides under the buildings, they hide under the hospitals too. That's why. It is because Hamas hides behind civilians. Yet the IDF still manages these pinpoint strikes in Gaza, picking off specific cars & buildings with Hamas bigwigs in them.
They literally targeted the bedrooms of the targets in Iran. They carpet bombed the entire gaza area. Something tells me that it seems Israeli accuracy drops severely when it is convenient. Also Iran retaliating against an attack is fully in their rights. Jews shouldn't start crying when they get punched for being a insufferable twat.
The IDF never "carpet bombed" anything. You clearly don't know what that term means.
Yes, retaliation is "within their rights" but Iran has been aggressively attacking Israel for a decade now, it's not like they don't have ample blood on their hands.
Anytime civilians are deliberately targeted by a military action is a war crime, really. A military target "in his bedroom" is still a military target. If he's hiding behind civilians their deaths are his fault.
How many buildings are left in Gaza? Fucking Dresden had more left standing than Gaza after Israel was done shelling the area.
Also nuclear scientists are civilians you genocidal maniac.
"Scientists" working exclusively for the military to build atomic bombs are not civilians. Are doctors in the army "civilians" too? Nope.
There's plenty of buildings still standing in Gaza, you're not allowed to see them of course, the Media and Hamas make sure of that.
Doctors in the army are civilians. It is a war crime to even target them.
Also scientists are still civilians. Doesn't matter what they are working on. So Israel is still targeting civilians and is in the wrong here.
You have a point that people really don't want to hear, as do the critics of people who complain about Iran "bombing population centers" when Tehran is a far greater population center than any place in Israel. I haven't seen evidence that Iran is actually targeting civilians, though it wouldn't surprise me either. And if it's just an issue of 'inaccurate weapons', then it's not targeting civilians either. BTW, nuclear scientists are civilians.
Western hypocrisy is just a state religion at this point. Right now, they're lying that Israel only targeted 'nuclear sites' (which would also be illegal aggression), while Iran targeted 'population centers' (see Macron). I'm guessing that they are doing this because they don't like that Iran is sending weapons to Russia.
That said, people here have gone so far in their hatred of Jews that they're now advocating for Islam, rather than just advocating against wars. Of course, many of them don't really care about the wars, they just want to kill the Jews.
Nonsense. They're working for the military? Building & researching weapons? They're no longer civilians.
Nonsense. They fire at a wide area filled with civilians, that entire area & the civilians in it are the target. Just like the British bombing French cities in WW2. They claimed to be hitting the French workers helping the Nazis, but they had no idea who those people were, they just bombed French civilian houses. Same for the Yanks carpet bombing civilian areas of German cities to "hit factory workers". They didn't even pretend against Japan, they straight up said they were killing civilians. :/
Were the atomic bombs also "not targeting civilians" like the Iranian missiles?
Yeah, I don't know about that, but I'm absolutely sure that nuclear scientists working for universities are civilians.
Or German cities in WW2. Note that Israel has often cited Dresden, which I agree with you was very bad, as a reason why it is justified in doing what it is doing. Either all of it is OK, or none of it is OK, etc.
What I said was an arguendo. I don't know that the Iranian missiles are inaccurate, let alone as inaccurate as you say they are. Also, you're going off purely on your own logic. These are legal questions. What may appear logical to you or me isn't necessarily how things work out.
Working AT universities, doing 100% army & military research. Still contributing to nuclear weapons which Iran will no longer be allowed to get. No thanks to Obama and Biden funding them, and funding Iran's proxy terrorism. 🙁
Yes, Dresden was a war crime, but so were most of the other British and American bombing campaigns. British bombers hitting French cities & killing Frenchmen on purpose is something they've tried to erase from the history books, eh?
The longer the range? The lower the accuracy. Unless they are self-guiding, which Iran's ballistic missiles are NOT, the area they might land on gets bigger & bigger. This is just a hard fact, nothing to do with my opinions.
It's like a crowd of people & there's 2 enemy gang members among them. A sniper might hit only the enemy, with some chance of collateral damage, but 4 guys "with 9s" will probably hit everyone BUT the enemy. That's the difference here.
All claims without a shred of evidence, of course. But nice reprise of "weapons of mass destruction".
My friend, Obama and Biden weren't "funding" them. That was their own money, like Russian reserves stolen by the West are their own money. One would think that the right would be slightly less retarded about the Obama nuclear deal, considering recent developments.
Hmm... several car bombs just went off in Iran. I wonder what you would say if Westerners working on "army & military research" started being targeted with car bombs.
See, I have no way of verifying that. But let's assume it is a "hard fact", and that your claims about international law are also correct. This means that "everyone should be a sitting duck and do absolutely nothing while we bomb them into the Stone Age", right?
Saddam DID have WMDs, he shipped them to Syria when the second invasion was imminent. The final UN Report said so, said he was reviving his atomic weapons program too, if only the early stages. Everything the Media said was a lie, yet you defend them? Curious.
It belonged to the people of Iran through the previous government which had been overthrown by violent revolution. They gave them the billions knowing full well it would never be spent on anything other than weapons and terrorism. And caviar, hookers & blow of course.
The holdings of the Tsar's family are still withheld from USSR/Russia you know? Over a century later. This is normal.
Not funding proxy terrorism? Please don't insult me, dude. Iran funds terrorism in Yemen, Lebanon & Gaza as well as probably a dozen other places too.
I have no idea what this sentence means. 🙄 Are you saying civilians are sitting ducks? Well DUH they always have been, since the days of Rome at least. What exactly can civilians do? If their nation goes to war, bombs (or pilum) are going to fall. Responsible governments make efforts to protect civilians in case of war. Hamas made efforts to put civilians in harm's way.
LOL.
Yeah, the media supported your WMD hoax when it mattered, and you do believe them, and defend their lie 22 years later. Apparently only if they're aligned with the Deep State.
First of all, it belonged to the Iranian 'state', not some vague idea of 'people' - which of course coincides with the Deep State deciding what happens in a country. Secondly, you're talking about a minuscule fraction of the Iranian assets that were stolen by the West.
Also, guess what another violent coup was... Ukraine's Maidan coup. But this is an argument of opportunity that you will only cite when it aligns with Deep State interests.
Their personal holdings != possessions of the Russian state.
I try not to, because at least you don't voice the same opinions as the Hivemind here - you probably get insulted enough for being somewhat independent on your thought. But it's hard because you're propounding the WMD hoax in 2025, which even the most rabid neocon is too embarrassed to do.
So... they do what the US did in Syria and many other places? Time to seize US assets to prevent it from funding terrorism.
No, I'm saying that what you demand is that every country be a sitting duck for every Western bombing campaign, because you'll nitpick every attempt to hit back with anything but the most hypermodern 'accurate' weapons in retaliation.
Israel conscripts most of their population - including women - and discharged citizens can be called up for reserve duty until age 40.
Not that Iran is really better in that regard.