Is OP really claiming that Iran's low-accuracy missiles are not fired at a wide target area almost entirely filled with civilians? While the IDF hit specific apartment buildings IN A SPECIFIC APARTMENT with pinpoint precision.
As always, the Muslims aim FOR civilians in every conflict, while the IDF aims at military targets often hiding behind civilians.
Iran can claim they're shooting at military targets, but with a missile who's accuracy is measured in 100's of meters? As opposed to IDF bombs with accuracy 1-2 meters? It's not "the same" at all.
the IDF hit specific apartment buildings IN A SPECIFIC APARTMENT with pinpoint precision.
Then why didn't they do this in Gaza -- an area that is, to my understanding, strictly under their embargo control and should therefore be much easier to pull off?
The embargo doesn't help targeting, eh?
Hamas hides under the buildings, they hide under the hospitals too. That's why. It is because Hamas hides behind civilians. Yet the IDF still manages these pinpoint strikes in Gaza, picking off specific cars & buildings with Hamas bigwigs in them.
They literally targeted the bedrooms of the targets in Iran. They carpet bombed the entire gaza area. Something tells me that it seems Israeli accuracy drops severely when it is convenient. Also Iran retaliating against an attack is fully in their rights. Jews shouldn't start crying when they get punched for being a insufferable twat.
The IDF never "carpet bombed" anything. You clearly don't know what that term means.
Yes, retaliation is "within their rights" but Iran has been aggressively attacking Israel for a decade now, it's not like they don't have ample blood on their hands.
Anytime civilians are deliberately targeted by a military action is a war crime, really. A military target "in his bedroom" is still a military target. If he's hiding behind civilians their deaths are his fault.
You have a point that people really don't want to hear, as do the critics of people who complain about Iran "bombing population centers" when Tehran is a far greater population center than any place in Israel. I haven't seen evidence that Iran is actually targeting civilians, though it wouldn't surprise me either. And if it's just an issue of 'inaccurate weapons', then it's not targeting civilians either. BTW, nuclear scientists are civilians.
Western hypocrisy is just a state religion at this point. Right now, they're lying that Israel only targeted 'nuclear sites' (which would also be illegal aggression), while Iran targeted 'population centers' (see Macron). I'm guessing that they are doing this because they don't like that Iran is sending weapons to Russia.
That said, people here have gone so far in their hatred of Jews that they're now advocating for Islam, rather than just advocating against wars. Of course, many of them don't really care about the wars, they just want to kill the Jews.
Nonsense. They're working for the military? Building & researching weapons? They're no longer civilians.
if it's just an issue of 'inaccurate weapons', then it's not targeting civilians either.
Nonsense. They fire at a wide area filled with civilians, that entire area & the civilians in it are the target. Just like the British bombing French cities in WW2. They claimed to be hitting the French workers helping the Nazis, but they had no idea who those people were, they just bombed French civilian houses. Same for the Yanks carpet bombing civilian areas of German cities to "hit factory workers". They didn't even pretend against Japan, they straight up said they were killing civilians. :/
Were the atomic bombs also "not targeting civilians" like the Iranian missiles?
Nonsense. They're working for the military? Building & researching weapons? They're no longer civilians.
Yeah, I don't know about that, but I'm absolutely sure that nuclear scientists working for universities are civilians.
They fire at a wide area filled with civilians, that entire area & the civilians in it are the target. Just like the British bombing French cities in WW2.
Or German cities in WW2. Note that Israel has often cited Dresden, which I agree with you was very bad, as a reason why it is justified in doing what it is doing. Either all of it is OK, or none of it is OK, etc.
Were the atomic bombs also "not targeting civilians" like the Iranian missiles?
What I said was an arguendo. I don't know that the Iranian missiles are inaccurate, let alone as inaccurate as you say they are. Also, you're going off purely on your own logic. These are legal questions. What may appear logical to you or me isn't necessarily how things work out.
Working AT universities, doing 100% army & military research. Still contributing to nuclear weapons which Iran will no longer be allowed to get. No thanks to Obama and Biden funding them, and funding Iran's proxy terrorism. 🙁
Yes, Dresden was a war crime, but so were most of the other British and American bombing campaigns. British bombers hitting French cities & killing Frenchmen on purpose is something they've tried to erase from the history books, eh?
The longer the range? The lower the accuracy. Unless they are self-guiding, which Iran's ballistic missiles are NOT, the area they might land on gets bigger & bigger. This is just a hard fact, nothing to do with my opinions.
It's like a crowd of people & there's 2 enemy gang members among them. A sniper might hit only the enemy, with some chance of collateral damage, but 4 guys "with 9s" will probably hit everyone BUT the enemy. That's the difference here.
Is OP really claiming that Iran's low-accuracy missiles are not fired at a wide target area almost entirely filled with civilians? While the IDF hit specific apartment buildings IN A SPECIFIC APARTMENT with pinpoint precision.
As always, the Muslims aim FOR civilians in every conflict, while the IDF aims at military targets often hiding behind civilians.
Iran can claim they're shooting at military targets, but with a missile who's accuracy is measured in 100's of meters? As opposed to IDF bombs with accuracy 1-2 meters? It's not "the same" at all.
Then why didn't they do this in Gaza -- an area that is, to my understanding, strictly under their embargo control and should therefore be much easier to pull off?
The embargo doesn't help targeting, eh?
Hamas hides under the buildings, they hide under the hospitals too. That's why. It is because Hamas hides behind civilians. Yet the IDF still manages these pinpoint strikes in Gaza, picking off specific cars & buildings with Hamas bigwigs in them.
They literally targeted the bedrooms of the targets in Iran. They carpet bombed the entire gaza area. Something tells me that it seems Israeli accuracy drops severely when it is convenient. Also Iran retaliating against an attack is fully in their rights. Jews shouldn't start crying when they get punched for being a insufferable twat.
The IDF never "carpet bombed" anything. You clearly don't know what that term means.
Yes, retaliation is "within their rights" but Iran has been aggressively attacking Israel for a decade now, it's not like they don't have ample blood on their hands.
Anytime civilians are deliberately targeted by a military action is a war crime, really. A military target "in his bedroom" is still a military target. If he's hiding behind civilians their deaths are his fault.
You have a point that people really don't want to hear, as do the critics of people who complain about Iran "bombing population centers" when Tehran is a far greater population center than any place in Israel. I haven't seen evidence that Iran is actually targeting civilians, though it wouldn't surprise me either. And if it's just an issue of 'inaccurate weapons', then it's not targeting civilians either. BTW, nuclear scientists are civilians.
Western hypocrisy is just a state religion at this point. Right now, they're lying that Israel only targeted 'nuclear sites' (which would also be illegal aggression), while Iran targeted 'population centers' (see Macron). I'm guessing that they are doing this because they don't like that Iran is sending weapons to Russia.
That said, people here have gone so far in their hatred of Jews that they're now advocating for Islam, rather than just advocating against wars. Of course, many of them don't really care about the wars, they just want to kill the Jews.
Nonsense. They're working for the military? Building & researching weapons? They're no longer civilians.
Nonsense. They fire at a wide area filled with civilians, that entire area & the civilians in it are the target. Just like the British bombing French cities in WW2. They claimed to be hitting the French workers helping the Nazis, but they had no idea who those people were, they just bombed French civilian houses. Same for the Yanks carpet bombing civilian areas of German cities to "hit factory workers". They didn't even pretend against Japan, they straight up said they were killing civilians. :/
Were the atomic bombs also "not targeting civilians" like the Iranian missiles?
Yeah, I don't know about that, but I'm absolutely sure that nuclear scientists working for universities are civilians.
Or German cities in WW2. Note that Israel has often cited Dresden, which I agree with you was very bad, as a reason why it is justified in doing what it is doing. Either all of it is OK, or none of it is OK, etc.
What I said was an arguendo. I don't know that the Iranian missiles are inaccurate, let alone as inaccurate as you say they are. Also, you're going off purely on your own logic. These are legal questions. What may appear logical to you or me isn't necessarily how things work out.
Working AT universities, doing 100% army & military research. Still contributing to nuclear weapons which Iran will no longer be allowed to get. No thanks to Obama and Biden funding them, and funding Iran's proxy terrorism. 🙁
Yes, Dresden was a war crime, but so were most of the other British and American bombing campaigns. British bombers hitting French cities & killing Frenchmen on purpose is something they've tried to erase from the history books, eh?
The longer the range? The lower the accuracy. Unless they are self-guiding, which Iran's ballistic missiles are NOT, the area they might land on gets bigger & bigger. This is just a hard fact, nothing to do with my opinions.
It's like a crowd of people & there's 2 enemy gang members among them. A sniper might hit only the enemy, with some chance of collateral damage, but 4 guys "with 9s" will probably hit everyone BUT the enemy. That's the difference here.