“To me, the really important aspects are the freedom to make something new,” he said. George Lucas’s storytelling pattern for Star Wars was meant to be “like poetry,” giving it structure and depth. Mangold apparently wants to defy this traditional method to work in “something original,” as he put it.
Not that it matters, SW has no lore. We've already replace the force (that is female) with the thread and anyone can become a Jedi now. Also no need for weapons because we can just use ftl crafts as space nukes.
An honest translation of Mangold's remarks would be: "I'm once again taking orders from Kathleen Kennedy and getting paid BIG money. I'm going to do everything she tells me to do, so I don't want to hear any shit from you nerds, okay?"
There's a "what have the Romans ever done for us?" joke in here replaced with "who are the Jedi who even survived Order 66" somewhere here, but I don't want to workshop it right now.
"Apart from Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda, Ahsoka Tano, Cal Kestis, Kanan Jarrus, Quinlan Vos, Luminara Unduli, The Grand Inquisitor, Jocasta Nu, Shaak Ti, Eeth Koth, Taron Malicos, Kelleran Beq and Ferren Barr; who even survived Order 66?"
And at least Lucas didn’t hate Star Wars or see it as a problem that a lot of guys enjoyed it. You are right about Rogue One. I didn’t see Obi Wan but I heard enough about it to know it was written by people who didn’t know Star Wars.
Literally a 2 minute scene where Obi Wan cuts Vader’s helmet open and catches a brief glimpse of Anakin’s mutilated remains beneath. He tells him, “I’m sorry Anakin, for everything”, and Vader smiles and says something like, “Anakin is already dead, I killed him myself”.
And that was it, that was the only thing in that entire show that even remotely mattered in terms of lore.
Everything else was just modern Disney slop; ten or so episodes of Obi Wan being cucked by a stronger smarter little girl (who inexplicably doesn’t remember him anymore when she’s grown up in episode IV, as well as strong black female antagonist who dominates all who stand in her way. Oh and don’t forget Ewan McGregor making a video clip from his car about how racist we all are for complaining.
This franchise is dead and buried. I don’t know what that stupid Kennedy bitch is thinking, pumping more and more time and money into the brand. It’s done, it’s over. I don’t care if you have Scorsese direct it, I’m not watching it nor will my children.
In this house we believe there are only 3 Star Wars films 😆
I count 6 but my head canon includes all the pre Disney books too. I didn’t like the idea of Vader and Obi Wan fighting before episode 4. I did hear it was a good duel but my head canon says episode 4 is first time they meet after Mustafar. The showrunner actually said “how can I get Leia involved”. Just seemed to be the usual girl power obsession and creates a plot hole. Why not have Luke and Leia meet as kids and go on a play date chaperoned by Obi Wan. I’m sure Disney shills would applaud it lol
You don't want your Star Wars movie to be bogged down by Star Wars, huh?
There's a world where a similar sentiment is legitimate, where a creator doesn't care about what color Glupp Shitto's jacket is. But the time for benefit of the doubt is well past, perhaps gone forever.
Well, his movie won't be handcuffed by Star Wars lore, if he makes an original movie instead of being a worthless parasite, leeching off of the creation of his betters.
How fascinating, the lefts trope of “killing the sacred cow” By subverting the IPs that were popular for a reason is so astronomically stupid, but they just can’t help themselves at this point.
As derivative as Rebel Moon was, at least it didn't subvert anything previously established just to satisfy the ego of a pissant standing on the shoulder of a giant.
Rebel Moon had potential as an idea but it turned out bad. Being derivative of Star Wars would have been more then fine if he could have made better world building some better characters and a better plot.
Star Wars is broken beyond repair. They've already failed. They can never recover from The Last Jedi. The Rise of Palpatine was just J.J. salt in the wounds of anyone who liked Star Wars.
A majority of former fans have reached peak apathy and wouldn't watch Star Wars if you physically carried them to the movie theatre.
Yeah, too many fans have moved on and don't really care anymore. Even if they sold the IP to someone willing to scrap all the Disney content and publish faithful adaptations of the best of the old EU content, it would probably be too little, too late.
GREAT NEWS- If you don't want your movie to ‘be handcuffed’ by George Lucas’s lore there's a really easy way to do it. This guy is so dumb that out of LITERALLY AN INFINITE NUMBER of movies you can make, he chose literally the only one (again, out of infinite) that calls for you to follow Star Wars lore.
Thanks for the warning that it's Star Wars in name only. But we've known that since 2016 when it was called Rogue One: A Star Wars story. Not an actual Star Wars movie, but a story using the star wars universe.
For anyone keeping score, it's taken them less than a decade to kill a beloved 48 year old franchise.
Not that it matters, SW has no lore. We've already replace the force (that is female) with the thread and anyone can become a Jedi now. Also no need for weapons because we can just use ftl crafts as space nukes.
An honest translation of Mangold's remarks would be: "I'm once again taking orders from Kathleen Kennedy and getting paid BIG money. I'm going to do everything she tells me to do, so I don't want to hear any shit from you nerds, okay?"
So make something NEW!
Plus apparently not too many jedi died from Order 66.
There's a "what have the Romans ever done for us?" joke in here replaced with "who are the Jedi who even survived Order 66" somewhere here, but I don't want to workshop it right now.
"Apart from Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda, Ahsoka Tano, Cal Kestis, Kanan Jarrus, Quinlan Vos, Luminara Unduli, The Grand Inquisitor, Jocasta Nu, Shaak Ti, Eeth Koth, Taron Malicos, Kelleran Beq and Ferren Barr; who even survived Order 66?"
Why don't you make your own fucking story then instead of hijacking another story. Also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mangold
...the memeability of this article is off the charts...
So he doesn't want them to have a chance of being good?
Say what you will about the prequels, but even the worst one, Attack of the Clones, was better anything Disney provided.
They came the closest with Rogue One because they were confined thanks to the time it was set.
And at least Lucas didn’t hate Star Wars or see it as a problem that a lot of guys enjoyed it. You are right about Rogue One. I didn’t see Obi Wan but I heard enough about it to know it was written by people who didn’t know Star Wars.
Literally a 2 minute scene where Obi Wan cuts Vader’s helmet open and catches a brief glimpse of Anakin’s mutilated remains beneath. He tells him, “I’m sorry Anakin, for everything”, and Vader smiles and says something like, “Anakin is already dead, I killed him myself”.
And that was it, that was the only thing in that entire show that even remotely mattered in terms of lore.
Everything else was just modern Disney slop; ten or so episodes of Obi Wan being cucked by a stronger smarter little girl (who inexplicably doesn’t remember him anymore when she’s grown up in episode IV, as well as strong black female antagonist who dominates all who stand in her way. Oh and don’t forget Ewan McGregor making a video clip from his car about how racist we all are for complaining.
This franchise is dead and buried. I don’t know what that stupid Kennedy bitch is thinking, pumping more and more time and money into the brand. It’s done, it’s over. I don’t care if you have Scorsese direct it, I’m not watching it nor will my children.
In this house we believe there are only 3 Star Wars films 😆
I count 6 but my head canon includes all the pre Disney books too. I didn’t like the idea of Vader and Obi Wan fighting before episode 4. I did hear it was a good duel but my head canon says episode 4 is first time they meet after Mustafar. The showrunner actually said “how can I get Leia involved”. Just seemed to be the usual girl power obsession and creates a plot hole. Why not have Luke and Leia meet as kids and go on a play date chaperoned by Obi Wan. I’m sure Disney shills would applaud it lol
You don't want your Star Wars movie to be bogged down by Star Wars, huh?
There's a world where a similar sentiment is legitimate, where a creator doesn't care about what color Glupp Shitto's jacket is. But the time for benefit of the doubt is well past, perhaps gone forever.
OK, I chuckled at Glupp Shitto lol
Wish I could claim credit.
Well, his movie won't be handcuffed by Star Wars lore, if he makes an original movie instead of being a worthless parasite, leeching off of the creation of his betters.
How fascinating, the lefts trope of “killing the sacred cow” By subverting the IPs that were popular for a reason is so astronomically stupid, but they just can’t help themselves at this point.
"historical fact that Marxists can not into profits, many such cases."
History witnessed Stalin do the same to art, which is to say that Communists destroy and then "reinvent" art.
Look at Pablo Picasso's art before and after he became a communist.
They can't help themselves because it's thier only guiding force in life. It's thier only God.
Sadly doesn’t even surprise me. Glad I only consume Star Wars before the sale. Going to an EU convention in March. Can’t wait
misinterpreted that abbreviation, and i was very puzzled, lol.
Convention for fans of pre Disney Star Wars books. Guess that is confusing lol
I figured. it was just funny is all. no worries.
I don't want Star Wars to be handcuffed by retards with no integrity yet here we are, Jimmy.
As derivative as Rebel Moon was, at least it didn't subvert anything previously established just to satisfy the ego of a pissant standing on the shoulder of a giant.
Rebel Moon had potential as an idea but it turned out bad. Being derivative of Star Wars would have been more then fine if he could have made better world building some better characters and a better plot.
Star Wars is broken beyond repair. They've already failed. They can never recover from The Last Jedi. The Rise of Palpatine was just J.J. salt in the wounds of anyone who liked Star Wars.
A majority of former fans have reached peak apathy and wouldn't watch Star Wars if you physically carried them to the movie theatre.
Yeah, too many fans have moved on and don't really care anymore. Even if they sold the IP to someone willing to scrap all the Disney content and publish faithful adaptations of the best of the old EU content, it would probably be too little, too late.
GREAT NEWS- If you don't want your movie to ‘be handcuffed’ by George Lucas’s lore there's a really easy way to do it. This guy is so dumb that out of LITERALLY AN INFINITE NUMBER of movies you can make, he chose literally the only one (again, out of infinite) that calls for you to follow Star Wars lore.
Then go use another IP.
Thanks for the warning that it's Star Wars in name only. But we've known that since 2016 when it was called Rogue One: A Star Wars story. Not an actual Star Wars movie, but a story using the star wars universe.
For anyone keeping score, it's taken them less than a decade to kill a beloved 48 year old franchise.
James Mangoloid
They talk about the freedom to do something new, but only ever coopt existing IPs.
then make something else
Then make your own IP, leech.
Let's be generous, maybe he wants to focus on a different aspect of Star Wars. Maybe the future or the High Republic era.
My wallet is appreciative at this attitude and has embiggened accordingly.
Go make a movie about another story you fucking parasites.