Let’s see, our enemies in real life always side with the bugs, demons, zombies, basically any bad guy in a work of fiction that isn’t “literally Hitler”. Makes you think.
The demons in Frieren are a perfect match to the sociopathic predator. They ARE an allegory, for the evil masquerading as human in our midst, and the kind of people that make up the ranking members of the globalist cabal. And these barking seals can't see it because they've been trained to see criminal behavior and immediately defend it.
They aren't media literate, they're reality illiterate.
They ARE an allegory, for the evil masquerading as human in our midst, and the kind of people that make up the ranking members of the globalist cabal.
Are they though? They're simply the perfect predator of humanoids. Everything revolves around hunting and eating humanoids. That's their only motivation. They're animals.
They are perfect predators only because they simply power scale us through raw mana and the like. The fact that humans can stand up to them and fight back given time/research shows how poor predators they actually are because of how single minded and simple their existence is. One of their strongest was defeated by a simple idea of "not flexing your magic muscles at all times to deceive about your strength."
The background lore is actually quite a good representation of humanities climbing of the natural order. Because there was a time when something like a bear or lion was our perfect predator for similar reasons, but we evolved to turn them into mere threats the same way that things like the Killing Beam (can't remember its name) was evolved in Frieren to turn most demons into mere threats.
Plus the timeskip of 80 years and unsealing the demon they couldn't defeat back then really showed how much better humans are than demons. 80 years ago the demon had an undefeated magic. 80 years later after human research, it's basic magic
Yeah, its being hammered home in the background again and again that humans will be the most powerful force eventually. They are simply held back by the fact that they actually die, instead of getting to be bums for centuries that still just stumble into massive power.
And even then Frieren would be defeated by someone who is actually interested in magic instead of her magic as a hobby. She's still the dominant one, yet in maybe a couple centuries techniques could probably be made that made the raw power obsolete. Obviously, she could adopt those principles herself but as we've seen: she's somewhat slow on that uptake. I guess if you can basically live forever new innovations come and to all the time, you don't know what trend will be the winking one. Also she IS a bit lazy.
I don't remember since it's been a bit but wasn't she the one who said it she'd be defeated it would be by a human mage during that whole thing with the mimic of her? Humans seem to be the driving force for innovation in that world.
Mortality seems to be the big overarching "theme" of the series, and how despite humans having the most fragile and short form of it they seem to make the most of it. In contrast to the elves and demons (and lesser extent dwarves, but they don't get much focus) who have all the time in the world, yet treat it so lightly that they let decades or centuries just slip by while only improving passively.
Fern is narrowing the gap between her and Frieren basically every time we see her fight. Its still a massive gap, but its still getting smaller despite the extremely short amount of time relative to Frieren's life Fern has been learning from her.
And that's someone who isn't really all that interested in magic herself, just is innately good at it and has a good teacher.
They are perfect predators only because they simply power scale us through raw mana and the like.
They've evolved to mimic humanoids to fool them. They're not just about magical power. That's why I said they're the "perfect" predator of humanoids.
the Killing Beam (can't remember its name) was evolved in Frieren to turn most demons into mere threats.
I think they called it Killing Magic. Which was something incredible during the war and humans turned it into "just standard magic". But as the arc with the city showed Demons aren't just mere threats. They are an existential threat as they play right into the weaknesses of humanoids.
Personal gain for demons in Frieren is just eating and surviving and growing stronger. So the basic nature of any animal. Eat, get fat and survive as long as possible with no deeper meaning behind it.
Now perhaps I'm wrong I've only watched the show but that's the impression I got from it. They aren't nuanced in the slightest. Kill, eat, repeat. That's all they do. With no higher goal in mind. With the exception of the Demon King who seemed to at least realize that humans are becoming an existential threat for his own kind and managed to unite demons under the banner of that cause. Survival.
Did you watch the whole show or read the manga? Societal infiltration including of government is something the smarter demons did multiple times. This echoes the population of sociopaths. The majority of them are just dangerous animals. The smarter ones are much more insidious.
Societal infiltration including of government is something the smarter demons did multiple times.
If we're talking about the city in the show, they did it to get them to lower their defenses so they could wipe them out as they were unable to do so. Their main motivation was still to kill humies and eat them. They had no other ambitions.
Their nature is to mimic their prey to kill it. That's what they did in the city.
The majority of them are just dangerous animals. The smarter ones are much more insidious.
In the show they're all like that. They evolved from monsters that mimic their prey. Some are more intelligent than others. They're all insidious. It is their modus operandi. Mimic their prey's behaviour and use it to hunt and kill.
So there is no real difference between the demon kid who fooled the father and the demons that infiltrated the city. They're intelligent enough to adapt to different situations but they're not intelligent enough to surpress their own nature. Which is seen in both cases.
They're predators that use bait. We have plenty of animals that are just like that. The only difference is the preferred prey of the demons in Frieren are humanoids and their behavior and tactics evolved to deal with that prey.
So there is absolutely no nuance to demons in Frieren. They're highly intelligent predatory animals/monsters that evolved to hunt humanoids. Nothing I've seen in the show suggests there is anything more to them.
Demon kings have been around for ages. One of the previous ones ordered the extermination of the elves as shown in the flashback when frieren met her master
Yes, demons are sociopaths, incapable of empathy, hollow & emotionless (except basic things like hunger or fear). They try to "blend in" because openly acting on their desires will get them punished, and they fear punishment.
Oh wait, am I talking about demons or leftists? 😉
Leftist groups are composed of multiple classes of failure, the sociopaths are a small enough group that they usually end up only in management. The shock troops of leftist movements are basically religious zealots, that worship the state or communist ideology instead of god. Leftiist ideologies more closely resemble religions than economic or functional political theories.
Communism in particular is a structure uniquely suited to allowing sociopaths to manipulate large groups of useful idiots. Stalin was almost certainly one. Lenin and hitler were probably more deranged than sociopathic - the high functioning sociopaths usually succeed leadership rather than creating a movement.
kind of like how the orcs in LOTR represented the worst of humanity and the Elves the best. A simple allegory for human nature, not some high-minded treatise on racism and colonialism...
They literally cannot tell the difference between fiction and reality. So if fiction is saying "There is an evil race who only wants death and destruction of all things good" then they think "Who is this talking about in real life?" because they are used to 100% of their media being allegory propaganda.
That's what "media literacy" is all about, being able to be a good little sheep and follow the clues that the director wants you take home. Rather than judging things on your own.
I'd argue their brains are so melted down they think everything needs to represent something IRL. Orcs, simply a humanoid race of monsters that can use axes and shit so the party doesn't have to fight only humans? Those must be black people. They cannot SEE that not everything is an allegory or a representation of something, they cannot help themselves.
That's the entire point of the Macht arc. To show that no matter how badly they want to feel something resembling human emotions, they cannot and will not ever be able to. Killing humans and doing what we call "evil" is as second nature to them as breathing. Coexistence is impossible because their very existence will always be preying on ours.
They even make sure to point out numerous times that the demons have learned how to abuse simple emotional ploys (like calling out "mommy") to get humans to lower their guard.
Like, its a critical failure of reading comprehension to miss the fact that the story keeps hammering home that the demons cannot physically stop being a threat to humans. The story keeps bringing up the question to answer it again and again with a resounding "fucking no."
It's a commandement of the Woke religion : No matter how many times the same behavior from the same people is repeated, you must not notice the pattern, you must not take mesures to protect your people.
The people who run these kinds of things usually did complain about the "promotion of genocide" in Goblin Slayer, and usually things like "the false rape accusation myth" in Shield Hero.
Next up, how that monk chick in episode 1 of Goblin Slayer was being properly culturally enriched by the migrant goblin refugees, and the evil nazitleracist Goblin Slayer's oppression of innocent minorities by interrupting their cultural festival with her as the star guest.
The globohomo satanists have mindfucked tens of thousands of people. All of their propaganda is designed to do one thing, teach these 102 iq retards to disregard their instincts and believe things at face value. "I'm a girl" "Diversity is our strength" "Jews just want to be left alone" "The migrants bring values". Social and media pressure snapped these faggots to bits. So if a demon says stop time out the second advantage flips, they have to obey because it can't really be bad if it's showing an ounce of weakness.
Because fantasy races having innate characteristics beyond physical appearance is 'biological essentialism'. All races are equal, even those created by evil gods, don'cha know?
Have you seen orcs in recent editions of DnD portrays them? Orcs are no longer savages, they are basically green humans now and I fucking hate it. Half orc used to mean something entirely different, too I feel.
And you can tell. It's not even there only. Look at orcs in Warcraft. WC3 is still one of my all time favorite RTS(fuck reforged btw). Orcs were probably one of the cooler factions for me(though I prefer undead over them). The lore was just amazing. Even when WoW started it was still cool, orcs are still one of my favorite races but in recent days it's become green humans, no longer orcs. I cannot find the image but there's this infamous one with an orc holding a camera looking like a fucking nerd, I guess soy's back on the menu in Orgrimmar.
WC3 is indeed an amazing game, although I would argue some of the trends started in there. Orcs are humanized in that game, we see there are bad orcs and good orcs, some want peace, some want war and power, etc. this is different from the traditional DnD and LotR style orcs which are just evil, warmongering savages. Fantasy is not supposed to be an analogy to the real world, and so is having an entire race of brutal savages is perfectly fine, just like having one of perfectly good angels.
Leftoids are not only pathetically uncreative, they can't be subtle about the fact they are just pushing their worldview on fantasy settings and that to them orcs are just green niggers.
I always took Thrall as being a bit too hippy, yet they didn't hold back when they had to. Now it's all holding hands and we gotta play together. All the edgyness of the horde is gone, I think it started with the Blood Elves that, while fitting in the lore have no place in the horde. Should've just been goblins and leave all the elf stuff to the other alliance.
But yeah, true orcs are very different from DnD or Tolkien, I don't mind it there though. It just got too soft and is IMHO entirely gone now. Had nuance, now it's you pick the ones with those elves or the other elves, with void elves we even had same model on both sides now.
There was an entire story arc dedicated to making it completely unambiguously clear that demons absolutely can't be trusted or reasoned with because they exist only to kill and destroy. There's no room whatsoever for a single bit of media literacy, the story doesn't support it.
Let’s see, our enemies in real life always side with the bugs, demons, zombies, basically any bad guy in a work of fiction that isn’t “literally Hitler”. Makes you think.
Moral inversion is a helluva drug
Clearly you were supposed to feel sorry for the bugs in Starship Troopers.
They empathize and identify with demons and bugs because they are demons and bugs.
Good observation. Hive mind for sure.
The left and those who praise hitler identify with evil, of course.
The demons in Frieren are a perfect match to the sociopathic predator. They ARE an allegory, for the evil masquerading as human in our midst, and the kind of people that make up the ranking members of the globalist cabal. And these barking seals can't see it because they've been trained to see criminal behavior and immediately defend it.
They aren't media literate, they're reality illiterate.
Are they though? They're simply the perfect predator of humanoids. Everything revolves around hunting and eating humanoids. That's their only motivation. They're animals.
They are perfect predators only because they simply power scale us through raw mana and the like. The fact that humans can stand up to them and fight back given time/research shows how poor predators they actually are because of how single minded and simple their existence is. One of their strongest was defeated by a simple idea of "not flexing your magic muscles at all times to deceive about your strength."
The background lore is actually quite a good representation of humanities climbing of the natural order. Because there was a time when something like a bear or lion was our perfect predator for similar reasons, but we evolved to turn them into mere threats the same way that things like the Killing Beam (can't remember its name) was evolved in Frieren to turn most demons into mere threats.
Plus the timeskip of 80 years and unsealing the demon they couldn't defeat back then really showed how much better humans are than demons. 80 years ago the demon had an undefeated magic. 80 years later after human research, it's basic magic
Yeah, its being hammered home in the background again and again that humans will be the most powerful force eventually. They are simply held back by the fact that they actually die, instead of getting to be bums for centuries that still just stumble into massive power.
And even then Frieren would be defeated by someone who is actually interested in magic instead of her magic as a hobby. She's still the dominant one, yet in maybe a couple centuries techniques could probably be made that made the raw power obsolete. Obviously, she could adopt those principles herself but as we've seen: she's somewhat slow on that uptake. I guess if you can basically live forever new innovations come and to all the time, you don't know what trend will be the winking one. Also she IS a bit lazy.
I don't remember since it's been a bit but wasn't she the one who said it she'd be defeated it would be by a human mage during that whole thing with the mimic of her? Humans seem to be the driving force for innovation in that world.
Mortality seems to be the big overarching "theme" of the series, and how despite humans having the most fragile and short form of it they seem to make the most of it. In contrast to the elves and demons (and lesser extent dwarves, but they don't get much focus) who have all the time in the world, yet treat it so lightly that they let decades or centuries just slip by while only improving passively.
Fern is narrowing the gap between her and Frieren basically every time we see her fight. Its still a massive gap, but its still getting smaller despite the extremely short amount of time relative to Frieren's life Fern has been learning from her.
And that's someone who isn't really all that interested in magic herself, just is innately good at it and has a good teacher.
They've evolved to mimic humanoids to fool them. They're not just about magical power. That's why I said they're the "perfect" predator of humanoids.
I think they called it Killing Magic. Which was something incredible during the war and humans turned it into "just standard magic". But as the arc with the city showed Demons aren't just mere threats. They are an existential threat as they play right into the weaknesses of humanoids.
They're emotionless manipulators that look like people, but aren't, that will say anything or play any role for personal gain.
Am I describing sociopaths or the demons?
Personal gain for demons in Frieren is just eating and surviving and growing stronger. So the basic nature of any animal. Eat, get fat and survive as long as possible with no deeper meaning behind it.
Now perhaps I'm wrong I've only watched the show but that's the impression I got from it. They aren't nuanced in the slightest. Kill, eat, repeat. That's all they do. With no higher goal in mind. With the exception of the Demon King who seemed to at least realize that humans are becoming an existential threat for his own kind and managed to unite demons under the banner of that cause. Survival.
Did you watch the whole show or read the manga? Societal infiltration including of government is something the smarter demons did multiple times. This echoes the population of sociopaths. The majority of them are just dangerous animals. The smarter ones are much more insidious.
I watched the show, yes.
If we're talking about the city in the show, they did it to get them to lower their defenses so they could wipe them out as they were unable to do so. Their main motivation was still to kill humies and eat them. They had no other ambitions.
Their nature is to mimic their prey to kill it. That's what they did in the city.
In the show they're all like that. They evolved from monsters that mimic their prey. Some are more intelligent than others. They're all insidious. It is their modus operandi. Mimic their prey's behaviour and use it to hunt and kill.
So there is no real difference between the demon kid who fooled the father and the demons that infiltrated the city. They're intelligent enough to adapt to different situations but they're not intelligent enough to surpress their own nature. Which is seen in both cases.
They're predators that use bait. We have plenty of animals that are just like that. The only difference is the preferred prey of the demons in Frieren are humanoids and their behavior and tactics evolved to deal with that prey.
So there is absolutely no nuance to demons in Frieren. They're highly intelligent predatory animals/monsters that evolved to hunt humanoids. Nothing I've seen in the show suggests there is anything more to them.
They don't actually need to eat humans to live, as established by the one that turned an entire city to gold and lived in it for decades.
And nearly everything you just described can also fit the description of "human" sociopathic predators.
Demon kings have been around for ages. One of the previous ones ordered the extermination of the elves as shown in the flashback when frieren met her master
+1 for using "sociopath" properly! 😸
Yes, demons are sociopaths, incapable of empathy, hollow & emotionless (except basic things like hunger or fear). They try to "blend in" because openly acting on their desires will get them punished, and they fear punishment.
Oh wait, am I talking about demons or leftists? 😉
Leftist groups are composed of multiple classes of failure, the sociopaths are a small enough group that they usually end up only in management. The shock troops of leftist movements are basically religious zealots, that worship the state or communist ideology instead of god. Leftiist ideologies more closely resemble religions than economic or functional political theories.
Communism in particular is a structure uniquely suited to allowing sociopaths to manipulate large groups of useful idiots. Stalin was almost certainly one. Lenin and hitler were probably more deranged than sociopathic - the high functioning sociopaths usually succeed leadership rather than creating a movement.
They don't even seem to eat humanoids. At least not up to where I read. They just enjoy killing ppl
They definitely do but they also kill for sport. It's mentioned in chapter 71.
kind of like how the orcs in LOTR represented the worst of humanity and the Elves the best. A simple allegory for human nature, not some high-minded treatise on racism and colonialism...
I think you got something mixed up
yeah, typo, fixed
It's funny because weebs have better understanding of context and nuance than the tourists:
Goblins in Goblin Slayer: evil, kill on sight
Goblins in Reincarnated as a Slime: Good and friendly
Demons in Frieren: Evil, kill when possible
Demons in Human in the demon army: Nuanced
Well it helps that we don't see a "loser race" and immediately assume its an allegory for blacks and mexicans, and thereby we must defend it.
That's a critical problem with their media analysis.
They literally cannot tell the difference between fiction and reality. So if fiction is saying "There is an evil race who only wants death and destruction of all things good" then they think "Who is this talking about in real life?" because they are used to 100% of their media being allegory propaganda.
That's what "media literacy" is all about, being able to be a good little sheep and follow the clues that the director wants you take home. Rather than judging things on your own.
I'd argue their brains are so melted down they think everything needs to represent something IRL. Orcs, simply a humanoid race of monsters that can use axes and shit so the party doesn't have to fight only humans? Those must be black people. They cannot SEE that not everything is an allegory or a representation of something, they cannot help themselves.
Exactly. Sometimes the devil is a sadistic monster who wants to enslave humanity. Sometimes he wants to flip burger in Tokyo.
And sometimes she has an enormous rack and wants to teach people about agriculture.
These are not the same.
They have sympathy for the demons because they are possessed. ideologically and/or spiritually, take your pick.
Him being retarded isn't controversial. Nor is it particularly surprising.
You don’t need to believe in The Devil to work for him, in fact he prefers it that way.
That's the entire point of the Macht arc. To show that no matter how badly they want to feel something resembling human emotions, they cannot and will not ever be able to. Killing humans and doing what we call "evil" is as second nature to them as breathing. Coexistence is impossible because their very existence will always be preying on ours.
They even make sure to point out numerous times that the demons have learned how to abuse simple emotional ploys (like calling out "mommy") to get humans to lower their guard.
Like, its a critical failure of reading comprehension to miss the fact that the story keeps hammering home that the demons cannot physically stop being a threat to humans. The story keeps bringing up the question to answer it again and again with a resounding "fucking no."
It's a commandement of the Woke religion : No matter how many times the same behavior from the same people is repeated, you must not notice the pattern, you must not take mesures to protect your people.
I'm sure this guy would also run defense for the goblins in Goblin Slayer, right?
The people who run these kinds of things usually did complain about the "promotion of genocide" in Goblin Slayer, and usually things like "the false rape accusation myth" in Shield Hero.
Its actually a pretty common thing for tourists.
of course
Next up, how that monk chick in episode 1 of Goblin Slayer was being properly culturally enriched by the migrant goblin refugees, and the evil nazitleracist Goblin Slayer's oppression of innocent minorities by interrupting their cultural festival with her as the star guest.
Makes sense, they're sympathetic to their own kind.
The globohomo satanists have mindfucked tens of thousands of people. All of their propaganda is designed to do one thing, teach these 102 iq retards to disregard their instincts and believe things at face value. "I'm a girl" "Diversity is our strength" "Jews just want to be left alone" "The migrants bring values". Social and media pressure snapped these faggots to bits. So if a demon says stop time out the second advantage flips, they have to obey because it can't really be bad if it's showing an ounce of weakness.
Because fantasy races having innate characteristics beyond physical appearance is 'biological essentialism'. All races are equal, even those created by evil gods, don'cha know?
The same happens with orcs. Leftoids showing that they will always defend murderers and rapists, even if they are fantasy races.
Have you seen orcs in recent editions of DnD portrays them? Orcs are no longer savages, they are basically green humans now and I fucking hate it. Half orc used to mean something entirely different, too I feel.
Recent editions of DnD are made with their new target audience in mind: women and faggots.
And you can tell. It's not even there only. Look at orcs in Warcraft. WC3 is still one of my all time favorite RTS(fuck reforged btw). Orcs were probably one of the cooler factions for me(though I prefer undead over them). The lore was just amazing. Even when WoW started it was still cool, orcs are still one of my favorite races but in recent days it's become green humans, no longer orcs. I cannot find the image but there's this infamous one with an orc holding a camera looking like a fucking nerd, I guess soy's back on the menu in Orgrimmar.
WC3 is indeed an amazing game, although I would argue some of the trends started in there. Orcs are humanized in that game, we see there are bad orcs and good orcs, some want peace, some want war and power, etc. this is different from the traditional DnD and LotR style orcs which are just evil, warmongering savages. Fantasy is not supposed to be an analogy to the real world, and so is having an entire race of brutal savages is perfectly fine, just like having one of perfectly good angels.
Leftoids are not only pathetically uncreative, they can't be subtle about the fact they are just pushing their worldview on fantasy settings and that to them orcs are just green niggers.
I always took Thrall as being a bit too hippy, yet they didn't hold back when they had to. Now it's all holding hands and we gotta play together. All the edgyness of the horde is gone, I think it started with the Blood Elves that, while fitting in the lore have no place in the horde. Should've just been goblins and leave all the elf stuff to the other alliance.
But yeah, true orcs are very different from DnD or Tolkien, I don't mind it there though. It just got too soft and is IMHO entirely gone now. Had nuance, now it's you pick the ones with those elves or the other elves, with void elves we even had same model on both sides now.
"Anything I don't like must be exterminated!"
... why are you like this?
"You must also be exterminated!"
Oh I'm sorry, you two are so alike, I confused a dalek for a leftist again.
There was an entire story arc dedicated to making it completely unambiguously clear that demons absolutely can't be trusted or reasoned with because they exist only to kill and destroy. There's no room whatsoever for a single bit of media literacy, the story doesn't support it.
This was the same twitter user that was on the last Frieren post. Pretty sure he's just doing this on purpose for outrage engagement.
He's not the only one who thinks that way
Attention-seeking whore: set to "ignore mode" unless your "mocking mode" has an opening. 😺