They are perfect predators only because they simply power scale us through raw mana and the like. The fact that humans can stand up to them and fight back given time/research shows how poor predators they actually are because of how single minded and simple their existence is. One of their strongest was defeated by a simple idea of "not flexing your magic muscles at all times to deceive about your strength."
The background lore is actually quite a good representation of humanities climbing of the natural order. Because there was a time when something like a bear or lion was our perfect predator for similar reasons, but we evolved to turn them into mere threats the same way that things like the Killing Beam (can't remember its name) was evolved in Frieren to turn most demons into mere threats.
Plus the timeskip of 80 years and unsealing the demon they couldn't defeat back then really showed how much better humans are than demons. 80 years ago the demon had an undefeated magic. 80 years later after human research, it's basic magic
Yeah, its being hammered home in the background again and again that humans will be the most powerful force eventually. They are simply held back by the fact that they actually die, instead of getting to be bums for centuries that still just stumble into massive power.
And even then Frieren would be defeated by someone who is actually interested in magic instead of her magic as a hobby. She's still the dominant one, yet in maybe a couple centuries techniques could probably be made that made the raw power obsolete. Obviously, she could adopt those principles herself but as we've seen: she's somewhat slow on that uptake. I guess if you can basically live forever new innovations come and to all the time, you don't know what trend will be the winking one. Also she IS a bit lazy.
I don't remember since it's been a bit but wasn't she the one who said it she'd be defeated it would be by a human mage during that whole thing with the mimic of her? Humans seem to be the driving force for innovation in that world.
Mortality seems to be the big overarching "theme" of the series, and how despite humans having the most fragile and short form of it they seem to make the most of it. In contrast to the elves and demons (and lesser extent dwarves, but they don't get much focus) who have all the time in the world, yet treat it so lightly that they let decades or centuries just slip by while only improving passively.
Fern is narrowing the gap between her and Frieren basically every time we see her fight. Its still a massive gap, but its still getting smaller despite the extremely short amount of time relative to Frieren's life Fern has been learning from her.
And that's someone who isn't really all that interested in magic herself, just is innately good at it and has a good teacher.
They are perfect predators only because they simply power scale us through raw mana and the like.
They've evolved to mimic humanoids to fool them. They're not just about magical power. That's why I said they're the "perfect" predator of humanoids.
the Killing Beam (can't remember its name) was evolved in Frieren to turn most demons into mere threats.
I think they called it Killing Magic. Which was something incredible during the war and humans turned it into "just standard magic". But as the arc with the city showed Demons aren't just mere threats. They are an existential threat as they play right into the weaknesses of humanoids.
They are perfect predators only because they simply power scale us through raw mana and the like. The fact that humans can stand up to them and fight back given time/research shows how poor predators they actually are because of how single minded and simple their existence is. One of their strongest was defeated by a simple idea of "not flexing your magic muscles at all times to deceive about your strength."
The background lore is actually quite a good representation of humanities climbing of the natural order. Because there was a time when something like a bear or lion was our perfect predator for similar reasons, but we evolved to turn them into mere threats the same way that things like the Killing Beam (can't remember its name) was evolved in Frieren to turn most demons into mere threats.
Plus the timeskip of 80 years and unsealing the demon they couldn't defeat back then really showed how much better humans are than demons. 80 years ago the demon had an undefeated magic. 80 years later after human research, it's basic magic
Yeah, its being hammered home in the background again and again that humans will be the most powerful force eventually. They are simply held back by the fact that they actually die, instead of getting to be bums for centuries that still just stumble into massive power.
And even then Frieren would be defeated by someone who is actually interested in magic instead of her magic as a hobby. She's still the dominant one, yet in maybe a couple centuries techniques could probably be made that made the raw power obsolete. Obviously, she could adopt those principles herself but as we've seen: she's somewhat slow on that uptake. I guess if you can basically live forever new innovations come and to all the time, you don't know what trend will be the winking one. Also she IS a bit lazy.
I don't remember since it's been a bit but wasn't she the one who said it she'd be defeated it would be by a human mage during that whole thing with the mimic of her? Humans seem to be the driving force for innovation in that world.
Mortality seems to be the big overarching "theme" of the series, and how despite humans having the most fragile and short form of it they seem to make the most of it. In contrast to the elves and demons (and lesser extent dwarves, but they don't get much focus) who have all the time in the world, yet treat it so lightly that they let decades or centuries just slip by while only improving passively.
Fern is narrowing the gap between her and Frieren basically every time we see her fight. Its still a massive gap, but its still getting smaller despite the extremely short amount of time relative to Frieren's life Fern has been learning from her.
And that's someone who isn't really all that interested in magic herself, just is innately good at it and has a good teacher.
They've evolved to mimic humanoids to fool them. They're not just about magical power. That's why I said they're the "perfect" predator of humanoids.
I think they called it Killing Magic. Which was something incredible during the war and humans turned it into "just standard magic". But as the arc with the city showed Demons aren't just mere threats. They are an existential threat as they play right into the weaknesses of humanoids.