I always took Thrall as being a bit too hippy, yet they didn't hold back when they had to. Now it's all holding hands and we gotta play together. All the edgyness of the horde is gone, I think it started with the Blood Elves that, while fitting in the lore have no place in the horde. Should've just been goblins and leave all the elf stuff to the other alliance.

But yeah, true orcs are very different from DnD or Tolkien, I don't mind it there though. It just got too soft and is IMHO entirely gone now. Had nuance, now it's you pick the ones with those elves or the other elves, with void elves we even had same model on both sides now.