They ARE an allegory, for the evil masquerading as human in our midst, and the kind of people that make up the ranking members of the globalist cabal.
Are they though? They're simply the perfect predator of humanoids. Everything revolves around hunting and eating humanoids. That's their only motivation. They're animals.
They are perfect predators only because they simply power scale us through raw mana and the like. The fact that humans can stand up to them and fight back given time/research shows how poor predators they actually are because of how single minded and simple their existence is. One of their strongest was defeated by a simple idea of "not flexing your magic muscles at all times to deceive about your strength."
The background lore is actually quite a good representation of humanities climbing of the natural order. Because there was a time when something like a bear or lion was our perfect predator for similar reasons, but we evolved to turn them into mere threats the same way that things like the Killing Beam (can't remember its name) was evolved in Frieren to turn most demons into mere threats.
Plus the timeskip of 80 years and unsealing the demon they couldn't defeat back then really showed how much better humans are than demons. 80 years ago the demon had an undefeated magic. 80 years later after human research, it's basic magic
Yeah, its being hammered home in the background again and again that humans will be the most powerful force eventually. They are simply held back by the fact that they actually die, instead of getting to be bums for centuries that still just stumble into massive power.
And even then Frieren would be defeated by someone who is actually interested in magic instead of her magic as a hobby. She's still the dominant one, yet in maybe a couple centuries techniques could probably be made that made the raw power obsolete. Obviously, she could adopt those principles herself but as we've seen: she's somewhat slow on that uptake. I guess if you can basically live forever new innovations come and to all the time, you don't know what trend will be the winking one. Also she IS a bit lazy.
I don't remember since it's been a bit but wasn't she the one who said it she'd be defeated it would be by a human mage during that whole thing with the mimic of her? Humans seem to be the driving force for innovation in that world.
They are perfect predators only because they simply power scale us through raw mana and the like.
They've evolved to mimic humanoids to fool them. They're not just about magical power. That's why I said they're the "perfect" predator of humanoids.
the Killing Beam (can't remember its name) was evolved in Frieren to turn most demons into mere threats.
I think they called it Killing Magic. Which was something incredible during the war and humans turned it into "just standard magic". But as the arc with the city showed Demons aren't just mere threats. They are an existential threat as they play right into the weaknesses of humanoids.
Personal gain for demons in Frieren is just eating and surviving and growing stronger. So the basic nature of any animal. Eat, get fat and survive as long as possible with no deeper meaning behind it.
Now perhaps I'm wrong I've only watched the show but that's the impression I got from it. They aren't nuanced in the slightest. Kill, eat, repeat. That's all they do. With no higher goal in mind. With the exception of the Demon King who seemed to at least realize that humans are becoming an existential threat for his own kind and managed to unite demons under the banner of that cause. Survival.
Did you watch the whole show or read the manga? Societal infiltration including of government is something the smarter demons did multiple times. This echoes the population of sociopaths. The majority of them are just dangerous animals. The smarter ones are much more insidious.
Societal infiltration including of government is something the smarter demons did multiple times.
If we're talking about the city in the show, they did it to get them to lower their defenses so they could wipe them out as they were unable to do so. Their main motivation was still to kill humies and eat them. They had no other ambitions.
Their nature is to mimic their prey to kill it. That's what they did in the city.
The majority of them are just dangerous animals. The smarter ones are much more insidious.
In the show they're all like that. They evolved from monsters that mimic their prey. Some are more intelligent than others. They're all insidious. It is their modus operandi. Mimic their prey's behaviour and use it to hunt and kill.
So there is no real difference between the demon kid who fooled the father and the demons that infiltrated the city. They're intelligent enough to adapt to different situations but they're not intelligent enough to surpress their own nature. Which is seen in both cases.
They're predators that use bait. We have plenty of animals that are just like that. The only difference is the preferred prey of the demons in Frieren are humanoids and their behavior and tactics evolved to deal with that prey.
So there is absolutely no nuance to demons in Frieren. They're highly intelligent predatory animals/monsters that evolved to hunt humanoids. Nothing I've seen in the show suggests there is anything more to them.
Demon kings have been around for ages. One of the previous ones ordered the extermination of the elves as shown in the flashback when frieren met her master
Yes, demons are sociopaths, incapable of empathy, hollow & emotionless (except basic things like hunger or fear). They try to "blend in" because openly acting on their desires will get them punished, and they fear punishment.
Oh wait, am I talking about demons or leftists? 😉
Leftist groups are composed of multiple classes of failure, the sociopaths are a small enough group that they usually end up only in management. The shock troops of leftist movements are basically religious zealots, that worship the state or communist ideology instead of god. Leftiist ideologies more closely resemble religions than economic or functional political theories.
Communism in particular is a structure uniquely suited to allowing sociopaths to manipulate large groups of useful idiots. Stalin was almost certainly one. Lenin and hitler were probably more deranged than sociopathic - the high functioning sociopaths usually succeed leadership rather than creating a movement.
Are they though? They're simply the perfect predator of humanoids. Everything revolves around hunting and eating humanoids. That's their only motivation. They're animals.
They are perfect predators only because they simply power scale us through raw mana and the like. The fact that humans can stand up to them and fight back given time/research shows how poor predators they actually are because of how single minded and simple their existence is. One of their strongest was defeated by a simple idea of "not flexing your magic muscles at all times to deceive about your strength."
The background lore is actually quite a good representation of humanities climbing of the natural order. Because there was a time when something like a bear or lion was our perfect predator for similar reasons, but we evolved to turn them into mere threats the same way that things like the Killing Beam (can't remember its name) was evolved in Frieren to turn most demons into mere threats.
Plus the timeskip of 80 years and unsealing the demon they couldn't defeat back then really showed how much better humans are than demons. 80 years ago the demon had an undefeated magic. 80 years later after human research, it's basic magic
Yeah, its being hammered home in the background again and again that humans will be the most powerful force eventually. They are simply held back by the fact that they actually die, instead of getting to be bums for centuries that still just stumble into massive power.
And even then Frieren would be defeated by someone who is actually interested in magic instead of her magic as a hobby. She's still the dominant one, yet in maybe a couple centuries techniques could probably be made that made the raw power obsolete. Obviously, she could adopt those principles herself but as we've seen: she's somewhat slow on that uptake. I guess if you can basically live forever new innovations come and to all the time, you don't know what trend will be the winking one. Also she IS a bit lazy.
I don't remember since it's been a bit but wasn't she the one who said it she'd be defeated it would be by a human mage during that whole thing with the mimic of her? Humans seem to be the driving force for innovation in that world.
They've evolved to mimic humanoids to fool them. They're not just about magical power. That's why I said they're the "perfect" predator of humanoids.
I think they called it Killing Magic. Which was something incredible during the war and humans turned it into "just standard magic". But as the arc with the city showed Demons aren't just mere threats. They are an existential threat as they play right into the weaknesses of humanoids.
They're emotionless manipulators that look like people, but aren't, that will say anything or play any role for personal gain.
Am I describing sociopaths or the demons?
Personal gain for demons in Frieren is just eating and surviving and growing stronger. So the basic nature of any animal. Eat, get fat and survive as long as possible with no deeper meaning behind it.
Now perhaps I'm wrong I've only watched the show but that's the impression I got from it. They aren't nuanced in the slightest. Kill, eat, repeat. That's all they do. With no higher goal in mind. With the exception of the Demon King who seemed to at least realize that humans are becoming an existential threat for his own kind and managed to unite demons under the banner of that cause. Survival.
Did you watch the whole show or read the manga? Societal infiltration including of government is something the smarter demons did multiple times. This echoes the population of sociopaths. The majority of them are just dangerous animals. The smarter ones are much more insidious.
I watched the show, yes.
If we're talking about the city in the show, they did it to get them to lower their defenses so they could wipe them out as they were unable to do so. Their main motivation was still to kill humies and eat them. They had no other ambitions.
Their nature is to mimic their prey to kill it. That's what they did in the city.
In the show they're all like that. They evolved from monsters that mimic their prey. Some are more intelligent than others. They're all insidious. It is their modus operandi. Mimic their prey's behaviour and use it to hunt and kill.
So there is no real difference between the demon kid who fooled the father and the demons that infiltrated the city. They're intelligent enough to adapt to different situations but they're not intelligent enough to surpress their own nature. Which is seen in both cases.
They're predators that use bait. We have plenty of animals that are just like that. The only difference is the preferred prey of the demons in Frieren are humanoids and their behavior and tactics evolved to deal with that prey.
So there is absolutely no nuance to demons in Frieren. They're highly intelligent predatory animals/monsters that evolved to hunt humanoids. Nothing I've seen in the show suggests there is anything more to them.
Demon kings have been around for ages. One of the previous ones ordered the extermination of the elves as shown in the flashback when frieren met her master
+1 for using "sociopath" properly! 😸
Yes, demons are sociopaths, incapable of empathy, hollow & emotionless (except basic things like hunger or fear). They try to "blend in" because openly acting on their desires will get them punished, and they fear punishment.
Oh wait, am I talking about demons or leftists? 😉
Leftist groups are composed of multiple classes of failure, the sociopaths are a small enough group that they usually end up only in management. The shock troops of leftist movements are basically religious zealots, that worship the state or communist ideology instead of god. Leftiist ideologies more closely resemble religions than economic or functional political theories.
Communism in particular is a structure uniquely suited to allowing sociopaths to manipulate large groups of useful idiots. Stalin was almost certainly one. Lenin and hitler were probably more deranged than sociopathic - the high functioning sociopaths usually succeed leadership rather than creating a movement.
They don't even seem to eat humanoids. At least not up to where I read. They just enjoy killing ppl
They definitely do but they also kill for sport. It's mentioned in chapter 71.