Yes, even as a kid I remember news alternating between showing him as a mean right-wing Republican who hates poor people, and a doddering old fool. It wasn't nearly as bad as with Trump, and the neolib establishment has softened on him now. Leftists (communists) still hate him. I remember talking with a lefty younger co-worker about how Reagan's legacy looks better now and he said "no he was still a shitty president with trickle down economics."
The press has portrayed every Republican president since WW2 as a fool, evil, or an evil fool. The last being especially hilarious, because they are trying to convince you that the guy is an idiot, but they also try to convince you he's some sort of evil genius bent on ruining people's lives. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad and obvious when you sit down and think about it.
Eisenhower was a fool.
Nixon was evil.
Reagan was an evil fool.
Bush senior was a fool.
Bush junior was a fool, then Iraq happened, and after that he was an evil fool.
Trump was/is an evil fool.
Maybe because he said "Mr Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!"
-Ronald Reagan, 6.12.1987, "Berlin Wall Speech"
"...it was often seen as one of the most memorable performances of an American president in Berlin after John F. Kennedy's "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech of 1963..."
It's brilliant. Instead of dealing with whiny taxpayers, just print all the money you need and blame le greedy corporations for le price gouging when everything's more expensive. Then give the rubes more printed money to combat le price gouging and be seen as heroes.
They called him everything they call Trump, and everything they called Goldwater, because it's the same anti-establishment revolution at work.
Goldwater never got elected president. Reagan was subverted in his second term. Trump was subverted in his first term and still managed major success.
That's really the strange thing here. Trump is fighting a uni-party as aggressive as the one Goldwater faced, but he's been pushing on the level of success that Reagan had.
I remember seeing a stat before that literally every Republican candidate for president has been compared to Hitler or saying that they would empower "far right" forces since Wendell Willkie in 1940. The only exception being Eisenhower, and only because it would probably be a bridge to far for even the most smooth brained of normie to believe the guy who defeated Hitler actually liked him.
Yeah, you actually couldn't call people Nazis during the post-war period. Nazis were so viscerally hated in the US by the 50's that it would have been understood to be fighting words. You'd actually get physically beaten up for it. The early (post-war) American National Socialists would get attacked pretty regularly for showing swastikas or the like off in public.
Calling Dwight D. Eisenhower a Nazi? Someone's probably gonna stab you. You literally can't talk shit about the president like that as a social taboo.
Reagan destroyed California, among other things, so I assume this movie is meant for 70+ year old dipshit boomers. It's wild to me that leftists won't just ignore boomers playing in their fantasy world, but then again, we are on KiA.
I love how these critics keep saying over reverential. I know some are still harping about aids and apparently Reagan didn’t do enough in their eyes. Now if this were an Obama biopic they would be singing a different tune
AIDS can be eradicated in a single generation like smallpox if the will was there. Instead, we give these disgusting degenerates "civil rights" and a slap on the wrist for spreading their plague.
The left/right divide on Reagan is amusing. The left should love him and the right hate him for being one of the biggest reasons America is so demographically fucked, yet it's reverse.
When you say "reason", what events are you talking about?
I think I'm familiar with the history but maybe just not assigning blame right. Cuz I didn't blame Reagan. I mean I would charge him with failure. But his intent seemed right? IDK.
He wasn't the only player by far, but Reagan supported the act and is revered by many on the right. As a sitting popular President, he could have likely put a stop to this but instead opted to support. Some of his statements supporting it sound like modern day shitlib claptrap.
Well, that was a desperate attempt to reject it that fell on it's face.
I'll contrast this with the alleged Nixon quote which claimed he said something similarly racist.
In Nixon's case, the interviewer claimed that Dean had told him this story in an interview, for a book he was writing. The author published this book at the time without citing the quote. He also did not announce this quote until after Dean died, which was over a decade after he published his book in the first place. Dean's family rejected the claim and everyone else in the Nixon cabinet rejected it too. Also, we have transcripts of Richard Nixon which show he didn't talk like this. The author claimed he had it recorded, and he admitted that his interviews with Dean were recorded both by audio tape and by his notes; and he refused to produce the notes or recordings.
That's not very credible. Yet, it's taken as a direct quote as if it isn't 2 layers of hearsay.
In this case, we have an author that didn't hide his notes, kept it in his book, and other people vouch that if LBJ didn't say those exact words, his use of the word "nigger" was commonplace enough that it probably would have happened.
In fact, Snopes' best argument against it is that LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act, which would be keeping in line with the point of the original quote.
If we wanted to make an indirect claim at why we don't think this is a real statement, the best I could argue is that most of the black vote at that time was already voting Democrat, specifically according to Goldwater who cited that the black vote had been locked up by the Dems since Roosevelt already. But, that doesn't refute the context. LBJ is claiming to lock the black vote, not gain it.
So we're going with "fuck the users", is that it? Personally I think the functionality of their website is their responsibility and not everyone else's.
It's a "I refuse to use Chrome" problem, sure. I'm not going to not use a privacy focused browser. If a website won't function on it, oh well. It's probably because they wanted tracking data I don't want them to have.
Here are some pages from Captain America 344 published in 1988 by Marvel. In it, the terrorist Viper contaminates the water supply in Washington DC with a chemical that turns ordinary people into... dunno... snake people? Enjoy.
Damn. I wanted to post this as a reply to Mpetey123. Fuck it...
Reagan was am actual good GOP president. He literally slapped down the black panthers using gun control laws. What other politician has the balls to do that?
Reagan was controversial? Dude is the epitome of the milquetoast neo-con.
The '84 election map says otherwise
1984 was demographic paradize compared to now.
Ironic, ain't it?
Literally everyone except DC: "SHUT THE FUCK UP MINNESOTA!"
Yes, even as a kid I remember news alternating between showing him as a mean right-wing Republican who hates poor people, and a doddering old fool. It wasn't nearly as bad as with Trump, and the neolib establishment has softened on him now. Leftists (communists) still hate him. I remember talking with a lefty younger co-worker about how Reagan's legacy looks better now and he said "no he was still a shitty president with trickle down economics."
The press has portrayed every Republican president since WW2 as a fool, evil, or an evil fool. The last being especially hilarious, because they are trying to convince you that the guy is an idiot, but they also try to convince you he's some sort of evil genius bent on ruining people's lives. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad and obvious when you sit down and think about it.
Eisenhower was a fool. Nixon was evil. Reagan was an evil fool. Bush senior was a fool. Bush junior was a fool, then Iraq happened, and after that he was an evil fool. Trump was/is an evil fool.
It's all so tiresome.
Maybe because he said "Mr Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!"
-Ronald Reagan, 6.12.1987, "Berlin Wall Speech"
"...it was often seen as one of the most memorable performances of an American president in Berlin after John F. Kennedy's "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech of 1963..."
Well, you can see why they are mad.
He tore down the Anti-Fascist wall and all the AfD came in. Simple as.
I like how cutting taxes is trickle down economics, but an exponential increase in the money supply is populism.
It's brilliant. Instead of dealing with whiny taxpayers, just print all the money you need and blame le greedy corporations for le price gouging when everything's more expensive. Then give the rubes more printed money to combat le price gouging and be seen as heroes.
I would argue it's not working even now. People don't feel good about the economy due to prices. And we're not even close to hyperinflation yet.
Reading Thomas Sowell go over the media spin against him in 1984 is fucking insane. It's all the same shit they say about Trump.
Which also happens to be all the same shit they said about Goldwater.
It's all the same shit.
Didn't he win 49 states when he ran? Seems pretty well-approved to me.
Muh popular vote.
My dad was telling me that in the 80 election they painted him a dangerous.
They called him everything they call Trump, and everything they called Goldwater, because it's the same anti-establishment revolution at work.
Goldwater never got elected president. Reagan was subverted in his second term. Trump was subverted in his first term and still managed major success.
That's really the strange thing here. Trump is fighting a uni-party as aggressive as the one Goldwater faced, but he's been pushing on the level of success that Reagan had.
I remember seeing a stat before that literally every Republican candidate for president has been compared to Hitler or saying that they would empower "far right" forces since Wendell Willkie in 1940. The only exception being Eisenhower, and only because it would probably be a bridge to far for even the most smooth brained of normie to believe the guy who defeated Hitler actually liked him.
Yeah, you actually couldn't call people Nazis during the post-war period. Nazis were so viscerally hated in the US by the 50's that it would have been understood to be fighting words. You'd actually get physically beaten up for it. The early (post-war) American National Socialists would get attacked pretty regularly for showing swastikas or the like off in public.
Calling Dwight D. Eisenhower a Nazi? Someone's probably gonna stab you. You literally can't talk shit about the president like that as a social taboo.
Every Republican since Eisenhower has had massive attack ads run against them. Look at how Goldwater was treated. (In your guts you know he's nuts.)
Reagan destroyed California, among other things, so I assume this movie is meant for 70+ year old dipshit boomers. It's wild to me that leftists won't just ignore boomers playing in their fantasy world, but then again, we are on KiA.
Kinda. Well, depending on your level of conspiracy.
Reagan was outplayed. He was trying to trade amnesty for border security. Only amnesty ended up happening.
The people were also betrayed by their elected officials wrt to the prop that would've denied illegals services.
I love how these critics keep saying over reverential. I know some are still harping about aids and apparently Reagan didn’t do enough in their eyes. Now if this were an Obama biopic they would be singing a different tune
Only faggot commies would complain about that. He could never do enough for them.
They'll never forgive him for tearing down their wall.
AIDS can be eradicated in a single generation like smallpox if the will was there. Instead, we give these disgusting degenerates "civil rights" and a slap on the wrist for spreading their plague.
weird how aids and china virus both happened under a republican and both helmed by the same guy.
Oh yea. I forgot Fauci was in charge with aids
archive of movie scores because OP is a screenshot posting fag
https://archive.is/QJi4F
The left/right divide on Reagan is amusing. The left should love him and the right hate him for being one of the biggest reasons America is so demographically fucked, yet it's reverse.
Don't forget him closing down the insane asylums. That 1, 2 punch is something America much less the West hasn't recovered from.
That was Kennedy, not Reagan.
It was Kennedy who basically turned all mental heath treatment into out-patient care.
All because JFK wanted his lobotomized sister to live with the family again.
I hate him a whole bunch.
But my list of "good presidents" only has like three names.
Washington, Ike, Coolidge. Jackson maybe.
Sbout it.
Tyler was the best.
Do you listen to the Brion McClanahan show, by any chance?
Tyler too
When you say "reason", what events are you talking about?
I think I'm familiar with the history but maybe just not assigning blame right. Cuz I didn't blame Reagan. I mean I would charge him with failure. But his intent seemed right? IDK.
He wasn't the only player by far, but Reagan supported the act and is revered by many on the right. As a sitting popular President, he could have likely put a stop to this but instead opted to support. Some of his statements supporting it sound like modern day shitlib claptrap.
Which act?
Simpson-Mazzoli in 1986
Do an honest Woodrow Wilson biopic and watch the establishment collectively melt down.
Do LBJ. Hahahaha.
I definitely want a Hollywood film with LBJ repeatedly referring to the Civil Rights Act as the "nigger bill."
and whipping his cock out
Lyndon Johnson:
I'll Have These Niggers Voting Democrat For 200 Years
Actual Snopes "fact check" about that quote
Well, that was a desperate attempt to reject it that fell on it's face.
I'll contrast this with the alleged Nixon quote which claimed he said something similarly racist.
In Nixon's case, the interviewer claimed that Dean had told him this story in an interview, for a book he was writing. The author published this book at the time without citing the quote. He also did not announce this quote until after Dean died, which was over a decade after he published his book in the first place. Dean's family rejected the claim and everyone else in the Nixon cabinet rejected it too. Also, we have transcripts of Richard Nixon which show he didn't talk like this. The author claimed he had it recorded, and he admitted that his interviews with Dean were recorded both by audio tape and by his notes; and he refused to produce the notes or recordings.
That's not very credible. Yet, it's taken as a direct quote as if it isn't 2 layers of hearsay.
In this case, we have an author that didn't hide his notes, kept it in his book, and other people vouch that if LBJ didn't say those exact words, his use of the word "nigger" was commonplace enough that it probably would have happened.
In fact, Snopes' best argument against it is that LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act, which would be keeping in line with the point of the original quote.
If we wanted to make an indirect claim at why we don't think this is a real statement, the best I could argue is that most of the black vote at that time was already voting Democrat, specifically according to Goldwater who cited that the black vote had been locked up by the Dems since Roosevelt already. But, that doesn't refute the context. LBJ is claiming to lock the black vote, not gain it.
Woodrow Wilson:
An American Disaster We Are Still Coping With
I've said it before and I'll say it again. When archive actually functions properly, then you have some basis for this attitude.
But it doesn't. Hell it doesn't even work at all on any browser worth a crap.
so post the link then
If you don't want to support the journo, find a different source and stop reading their rag.
either way, archive.is and ghost archive work fine on all machines I've tried. Stop being lazy.
Your technological illiteracy is not acceptable, nor an excuse.
So we're going with "fuck the users", is that it? Personally I think the functionality of their website is their responsibility and not everyone else's.
Archive sites work perfectly fine. This is a you problem.
I understand that hearing that hurts your ego but I don't care. You needed to hear it.
It's a "I refuse to use Chrome" problem, sure. I'm not going to not use a privacy focused browser. If a website won't function on it, oh well. It's probably because they wanted tracking data I don't want them to have.
What did Reagan conserve exactly?
The demographic destruction of the US
Jelly Beans
Diddly squat
Reagan undid some of the most immediate damage of the 70's.
Billionaire profits and Israel.
Here are some pages from Captain America 344 published in 1988 by Marvel. In it, the terrorist Viper contaminates the water supply in Washington DC with a chemical that turns ordinary people into... dunno... snake people? Enjoy.
Damn. I wanted to post this as a reply to Mpetey123. Fuck it...
I see it and will consider it a direct answer
Reagan was am actual good GOP president. He literally slapped down the black panthers using gun control laws. What other politician has the balls to do that?