The fact only some of the parents suing Activision are also suing the cops who stood by and let their kids be murdered virtually right in front of them tells me all I need to know.
I was wondering if it were only a few families or all of them. All this does is make me feel more sympathetic to the families who aren't suing Activision, and less sympathetic to those that are. I can't imagine being one of the families who aren't litigious shitheads and getting lumped in with those who are.
While I don't disagree, you have to put it in context. I'm not trying to excuse the behavior of the cops, that said:
Following the Saint George of Fentanyl incident, it was made crystal clear to cops everywhere that following training and doing the right thing was no protection from life in prison. Derek Chauvin arrived on the scene to assist two rookie cops who were too afraid to take action. Officer Chauvin then took action as per his training. He was scrupulous about following procedure exactly, because he was well aware of the cameras in his face and the hostile crowd.
There was a SNAFU, the ambulance stopped a short distance away, unwilling to respond to an incident in a hostile crowd. After the rookies understood and cleared the crowd enough, Saint George was given medical attention. He died on route to the hospital.
Officer Chauvin was charged with the pre meditated murder of Saint George and will serve decades in prison.
At that point every single cop in the USA took notice and many of the best either quit or made plans to quit.
Given that the standards of firearms training is not very high for most cops, the officers on the scene were almost certainly terrified of taking action in front of cameras and under trained to effectively clear the school room by room and execute the gunman.
Don't get me wrong. I would have done it. I am not a cop and I don't have any skill with a firearm. I am certainly not an operator, but I would have known what should have been done. I would have done it or died trying. BUT every cop who had that attituded had been either chased out of the force or had the fear of god put into them by the utterly hostile system, which includes the DA and the senior management of the police force. The spineless dregs that were left made a call. It was safer to do nothing and suffer less consequences than to take action and to probably spend life in prison. In a meaningful way, they were right.
You're overthinking it, Uvalde is basically northern Mexico and the police act like your average Mexican cops. They operate by bribes and there is no incentive for them to risk dying without appropriate compensation.
That doesn't invalidate my post. If all the cops on the force are selfish and take bribes, then it was an equally cynical calculation that caused them to stand by while the shooter murdered the teaching staff.
To storm the building gained them nothing. To stand by and wait was safe.
The only difference is that all the good cops (if there ever were any) left long before Saint George met his end.
Bro, do you really think these worthless pigs were afraid of being Chauvin'd (by who, exactly?), and thats why they did nothing? Not because they were all giant pussies afraid of being shot at best or told to stand down to facilitate the planned narrative at worst. You're making excuses so the pigs dont look bad.
Thinking that cops didnt save kids from being murdered because of george floyd is far too retarded an idea to entertain. It is 100% cope to excuse the cops from looking bad.
Guy, are reading what I wrote? Here, I'll write it again. Tell me if you need help with any of the big words.
If you punish cops for performing their duty to the community, cops won't perform their duty.
If you reward (or fail to punish) cops for doing nothing, cops will do nothing.
The cops that have community service as a major motivation will leave the force.
If you think that Derek Chauvin is the the only time that this has happened, then you are not paying attention. There has been wide-spread anti cop sentiment for years. Some places more than others.
If you want a police force that isn't worthless then you must incentivize the behaviors you want. Want heroics? Reward heroics. That starts at the top.
uhhh...what is this faggotry? How is it advocating, glorifying, or endorsing violence?
Saying I don't feel bad about them killing themselves isn't any one of those things. Stop being a retarded janny and applying retarded rules, and get back to banning the pajeet pedo.
If there was any real justice, there would be an express path to dismissal for frivolous lawsuits like this along with disbarment for the filing attorneys.
What I was thinking was to have the merits of the case reviewed somehow before being allowed to flood someone with discovery requests, dragging case out with extensions, etc. in order to drown someone in legal fees and take up all their time. There'd still be a lot of caveats.
Like you say though, if the attorneys had more on the line, it would likely take a huge dent out of this stupidity.
The problem with that idea is that it presumes a neutral and even court and law system.
When instead the moment it comes to pass it'll just say "LGBT is understood as sacrosanct, your case against the School transitioning your daughter against your will is dismissed as meritless and offensive." You'll never get the chance to plead your case to possible regular people on a jury or otherwise, it'll just be a judge or other deciding to dismiss you on their own opinions and politics.
Like a lot of things in the legal system, it seems horrible and that it should be fixed because of how it gets abused, but its in place to give the innocent and just a fighting chance against a system that would be stacked against them.
That's reasonable. If some dummy wants to spend his own money and time to represent himself in court then let him. With the requirement to pay the defendants fees when the case is dropped.
Suing gun companies because someone used a gun in a way you don't like is already specifically illegal under an entire law passed just for that purpose.
They also filed another lawsuit against Daniel Defense, which manufactured the AR-style rifle used in the May 24, 2022, shooting — and has already been sued.
The gunman killed 19 teachers and two teachers officers finally confronted and shot him after waiting more than an hour to enter the fourth-grade classroom.
Nice grammar there, professional news outlet.
“There is a direct line between the conduct of these companies and the Uvalde shooting,” said Josh Koskoff, an attorney for the families. “This three-headed monster knowingly exposed him to the weapon, conditioned him to see it as a tool to solve his problems and trained him to use it.”
I must have missed that mission in CoD
Some of the same families on Wednesday filed a $500 million lawsuit against Texas state police officials and officers who were part of the botched law enforcement response that day. More than 370 federal, state and local officers responded but waited more than an hour to confront the shooter inside the classroom as students and teaches lay dead, dying or wounded.
SOME? So not all?? So some parents think Meta and Activision are definitely responsible but the cops with guns who were physically right there and did nothing weren't?
According to the lawsuits, the Uvalde shooter had played versions of “Call of Duty” since he was 15, including one that allowed him to effectively practice with the version of the rifle he used at the school.
The parents should be forced to test their shooting at a range, then play 20 hrs of CoD then go back and test again to see how much they improved.
“Simultaneously, on Instagram, the shooter was being courted through explicit, aggressive marketing. In addition to hundreds of images depicting and venerating the thrill of combat, Daniel Defense used Instagram to extol the illegal, murderous use of its weapons,”
They should not only lose but get laughed out of court and ordered to pay attorney fees for the defense, but we live in Clown World so it's far more likely they'll win there ridiculous cases.
They need to sue Toyota for building the dangerous assault vehicle that carried the attacker to the school building that day. Facebook even lets Toyota advertise to impressionable young drivers. Everyone knows their vehicles are used by terrorists worldwide!
Never the parents fault for creating a little hellspawn though. If CoD can do this will dumping hundreds of hours into NBA 2k24 turn me into Jordan?
People put more effort into picking a purebred puppy than they do deciding who to breed with. The shooter was another product of a broken home with lots of warning signs leading up to the shooting.
Aaannndd the parents that filed this lost this case immediately, if courts aren't even going after the media lgbt indoctrination that leads to child mutilation, sorry Affirmative care, no I was right the first time, you don't stand a hope in hell trying to sue a game company over some psycho killing your kids because incompetent cops LET him.
No, I KNOW they don't but not many courts are as suicidal as NY courts so try to avoid setting a precedent that can be easily overturned and makes their corruption obvious.
The argument over whether or not video games are effective simulators is a red herring. It's not even illegal to directly provide firearms training to people using real weapons. The US government will even give it to you for free (some conditions may apply). At times being "trained to kill" has been mandatory.
I imagine they "used" some manner of name brand sneakers too. Are they suing Nike? I think one of them wore glasses. Sue the optometrist and frame makers?
We really need "loser pays all costs" for frivolous lawsuits like this.
Why not sue anyone pushing for LGBT stuff, especially those targeting kids in school? You'd still lose, but at least it would make some sense, since it was confirmed the shooter was trans.
Way to make people lose sympathy.
The fact only some of the parents suing Activision are also suing the cops who stood by and let their kids be murdered virtually right in front of them tells me all I need to know.
I was wondering if it were only a few families or all of them. All this does is make me feel more sympathetic to the families who aren't suing Activision, and less sympathetic to those that are. I can't imagine being one of the families who aren't litigious shitheads and getting lumped in with those who are.
Do we even know if it happened?
Sandy Hook probably didn't, Christchurch definitely didn't. But after what happened with Alex Jones nobody wants to question Uvalde.
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This is opinion
It's fact actually, we have video of them sanitizing their hands while kids are being killed.
What you are seeing may be a factoid, but "tells me all I need to know" is an opinion.
I don't see anything actionable in your comment.
While I don't disagree, you have to put it in context. I'm not trying to excuse the behavior of the cops, that said:
Following the Saint George of Fentanyl incident, it was made crystal clear to cops everywhere that following training and doing the right thing was no protection from life in prison. Derek Chauvin arrived on the scene to assist two rookie cops who were too afraid to take action. Officer Chauvin then took action as per his training. He was scrupulous about following procedure exactly, because he was well aware of the cameras in his face and the hostile crowd.
There was a SNAFU, the ambulance stopped a short distance away, unwilling to respond to an incident in a hostile crowd. After the rookies understood and cleared the crowd enough, Saint George was given medical attention. He died on route to the hospital.
Officer Chauvin was charged with the pre meditated murder of Saint George and will serve decades in prison.
At that point every single cop in the USA took notice and many of the best either quit or made plans to quit.
Given that the standards of firearms training is not very high for most cops, the officers on the scene were almost certainly terrified of taking action in front of cameras and under trained to effectively clear the school room by room and execute the gunman.
Don't get me wrong. I would have done it. I am not a cop and I don't have any skill with a firearm. I am certainly not an operator, but I would have known what should have been done. I would have done it or died trying. BUT every cop who had that attituded had been either chased out of the force or had the fear of god put into them by the utterly hostile system, which includes the DA and the senior management of the police force. The spineless dregs that were left made a call. It was safer to do nothing and suffer less consequences than to take action and to probably spend life in prison. In a meaningful way, they were right.
You're overthinking it, Uvalde is basically northern Mexico and the police act like your average Mexican cops. They operate by bribes and there is no incentive for them to risk dying without appropriate compensation.
That doesn't invalidate my post. If all the cops on the force are selfish and take bribes, then it was an equally cynical calculation that caused them to stand by while the shooter murdered the teaching staff.
To storm the building gained them nothing. To stand by and wait was safe.
The only difference is that all the good cops (if there ever were any) left long before Saint George met his end.
You're making excuses. Block of text = cognitive dissonance
What dissonance? Here, I will use smaller words for you.
If you punish cops for performing their duty to the community, cops won't perform their duty.
If you reward (or fail to punish) cops for doing nothing, cops will do nothing.
The cops that have community service as a major motivation will leave the force.
Please point out where I'm wrong. I'd love to correct my world-view.
Bro, do you really think these worthless pigs were afraid of being Chauvin'd (by who, exactly?), and thats why they did nothing? Not because they were all giant pussies afraid of being shot at best or told to stand down to facilitate the planned narrative at worst. You're making excuses so the pigs dont look bad.
While it often correlates, acting like it is that cut and dry is thinking like a simpleton.
Thinking that cops didnt save kids from being murdered because of george floyd is far too retarded an idea to entertain. It is 100% cope to excuse the cops from looking bad.
Guy, are reading what I wrote? Here, I'll write it again. Tell me if you need help with any of the big words.
If you think that Derek Chauvin is the the only time that this has happened, then you are not paying attention. There has been wide-spread anti cop sentiment for years. Some places more than others.
If you want a police force that isn't worthless then you must incentivize the behaviors you want. Want heroics? Reward heroics. That starts at the top.
I largely agree in this case that it probably isn't the reason.
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It's pretty close and it's a pretty sketchy subject. It's not a fed post, but could look like one.
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uhhh...what is this faggotry? How is it advocating, glorifying, or endorsing violence?
Saying I don't feel bad about them killing themselves isn't any one of those things. Stop being a retarded janny and applying retarded rules, and get back to banning the pajeet pedo.
Suing the cops-i sleep
Suing random goyslop Vidya-real boomer💡
Bonus: suing the fucking rifle company 🤯
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Boomer is not a slur
What constitutes a slur?
If there was any real justice, there would be an express path to dismissal for frivolous lawsuits like this along with disbarment for the filing attorneys.
What I was thinking was to have the merits of the case reviewed somehow before being allowed to flood someone with discovery requests, dragging case out with extensions, etc. in order to drown someone in legal fees and take up all their time. There'd still be a lot of caveats.
Like you say though, if the attorneys had more on the line, it would likely take a huge dent out of this stupidity.
The problem with that idea is that it presumes a neutral and even court and law system.
When instead the moment it comes to pass it'll just say "LGBT is understood as sacrosanct, your case against the School transitioning your daughter against your will is dismissed as meritless and offensive." You'll never get the chance to plead your case to possible regular people on a jury or otherwise, it'll just be a judge or other deciding to dismiss you on their own opinions and politics.
Like a lot of things in the legal system, it seems horrible and that it should be fixed because of how it gets abused, but its in place to give the innocent and just a fighting chance against a system that would be stacked against them.
That's reasonable. If some dummy wants to spend his own money and time to represent himself in court then let him. With the requirement to pay the defendants fees when the case is dropped.
Suing gun companies because someone used a gun in a way you don't like is already specifically illegal under an entire law passed just for that purpose.
Nice grammar there, professional news outlet.
I must have missed that mission in CoD
SOME? So not all?? So some parents think Meta and Activision are definitely responsible but the cops with guns who were physically right there and did nothing weren't?
The parents should be forced to test their shooting at a range, then play 20 hrs of CoD then go back and test again to see how much they improved.
Ok. show that ad then. Let's see it...
They should not only lose but get laughed out of court and ordered to pay attorney fees for the defense, but we live in Clown World so it's far more likely they'll win there ridiculous cases.
They need to sue Toyota for building the dangerous assault vehicle that carried the attacker to the school building that day. Facebook even lets Toyota advertise to impressionable young drivers. Everyone knows their vehicles are used by terrorists worldwide!
Never the parents fault for creating a little hellspawn though. If CoD can do this will dumping hundreds of hours into NBA 2k24 turn me into Jordan?
People put more effort into picking a purebred puppy than they do deciding who to breed with. The shooter was another product of a broken home with lots of warning signs leading up to the shooting.
Aaannndd the parents that filed this lost this case immediately, if courts aren't even going after the media lgbt indoctrination that leads to child mutilation, sorry Affirmative care, no I was right the first time, you don't stand a hope in hell trying to sue a game company over some psycho killing your kids because incompetent cops LET him.
you assume the courts apply the law evenly.
No, I KNOW they don't but not many courts are as suicidal as NY courts so try to avoid setting a precedent that can be easily overturned and makes their corruption obvious.
"My kid is dead, let's make some money."
I suppose if you need a sympathetic grift this is it.
The argument over whether or not video games are effective simulators is a red herring. It's not even illegal to directly provide firearms training to people using real weapons. The US government will even give it to you for free (some conditions may apply). At times being "trained to kill" has been mandatory.
Those families need to be shamed.
Can the families of victims of Muslim ram-car killings sue the car manufacturers while Clown World is going full-retard?
no, when The Diversity does bad things, it's your fault.
I imagine they "used" some manner of name brand sneakers too. Are they suing Nike? I think one of them wore glasses. Sue the optometrist and frame makers?
We really need "loser pays all costs" for frivolous lawsuits like this.
Maybe sue the guys (feds) that issued a stand down order?
Why not sue anyone pushing for LGBT stuff, especially those targeting kids in school? You'd still lose, but at least it would make some sense, since it was confirmed the shooter was trans.
absolutely retarded lawsuit and they'll win it because the legal system is even MORE retarded.
No.
Want a longer answer?
Lol no. Lmao even.