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Uvalde families sue Meta and 'Call of Duty' maker on 2nd anniversary of school attack. They say the companies bear responsibility for products used by the teenage gunman (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by YesMovement 2 years ago by YesMovement +47 / -0
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– DemolitionsPanda 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

While I don't disagree, you have to put it in context. I'm not trying to excuse the behavior of the cops, that said:

Following the Saint George of Fentanyl incident, it was made crystal clear to cops everywhere that following training and doing the right thing was no protection from life in prison. Derek Chauvin arrived on the scene to assist two rookie cops who were too afraid to take action. Officer Chauvin then took action as per his training. He was scrupulous about following procedure exactly, because he was well aware of the cameras in his face and the hostile crowd.

There was a SNAFU, the ambulance stopped a short distance away, unwilling to respond to an incident in a hostile crowd. After the rookies understood and cleared the crowd enough, Saint George was given medical attention. He died on route to the hospital.

Officer Chauvin was charged with the pre meditated murder of Saint George and will serve decades in prison.

At that point every single cop in the USA took notice and many of the best either quit or made plans to quit.

Given that the standards of firearms training is not very high for most cops, the officers on the scene were almost certainly terrified of taking action in front of cameras and under trained to effectively clear the school room by room and execute the gunman.

Don't get me wrong. I would have done it. I am not a cop and I don't have any skill with a firearm. I am certainly not an operator, but I would have known what should have been done. I would have done it or died trying. BUT every cop who had that attituded had been either chased out of the force or had the fear of god put into them by the utterly hostile system, which includes the DA and the senior management of the police force. The spineless dregs that were left made a call. It was safer to do nothing and suffer less consequences than to take action and to probably spend life in prison. In a meaningful way, they were right.

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– Witch_Lover 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

You're overthinking it, Uvalde is basically northern Mexico and the police act like your average Mexican cops. They operate by bribes and there is no incentive for them to risk dying without appropriate compensation.

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– DemolitionsPanda 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That doesn't invalidate my post. If all the cops on the force are selfish and take bribes, then it was an equally cynical calculation that caused them to stand by while the shooter murdered the teaching staff.

To storm the building gained them nothing. To stand by and wait was safe.

The only difference is that all the good cops (if there ever were any) left long before Saint George met his end.

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– SparkMandrill83 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You're making excuses. Block of text = cognitive dissonance

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– DemolitionsPanda 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

What dissonance? Here, I will use smaller words for you.

If you punish cops for performing their duty to the community, cops won't perform their duty.

If you reward (or fail to punish) cops for doing nothing, cops will do nothing.

The cops that have community service as a major motivation will leave the force.

Please point out where I'm wrong. I'd love to correct my world-view.

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– SparkMandrill83 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Bro, do you really think these worthless pigs were afraid of being Chauvin'd (by who, exactly?), and thats why they did nothing? Not because they were all giant pussies afraid of being shot at best or told to stand down to facilitate the planned narrative at worst. You're making excuses so the pigs dont look bad.

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– Bouldabassed 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Block of text = cognitive dissonance

While it often correlates, acting like it is that cut and dry is thinking like a simpleton.

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– SparkMandrill83 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thinking that cops didnt save kids from being murdered because of george floyd is far too retarded an idea to entertain. It is 100% cope to excuse the cops from looking bad.

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– DemolitionsPanda 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Guy, are reading what I wrote? Here, I'll write it again. Tell me if you need help with any of the big words.

If you punish cops for performing their duty to the community, cops won't perform their duty.

If you reward (or fail to punish) cops for doing nothing, cops will do nothing.

The cops that have community service as a major motivation will leave the force.

If you think that Derek Chauvin is the the only time that this has happened, then you are not paying attention. There has been wide-spread anti cop sentiment for years. Some places more than others.

If you want a police force that isn't worthless then you must incentivize the behaviors you want. Want heroics? Reward heroics. That starts at the top.

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– Bouldabassed 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I largely agree in this case that it probably isn't the reason.

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