Another interesting point, since people are talking psyops...in recent memory, only leftists (or lefty adjacents) have self immolated.
The idea that this is a "legitimate" Far Right™ dude is kind of suspect. I'm thinking mentally ill and easily captured guy, personally, and someone filled his head with some ideas and potentially even set him off.
Manifesto aside, nothing about the actions here scream "right wing." This is a chump that got messed with and set up.
He was a leftist. He donated to only dems, etc etc.
I will say that going out by lighting yourself on fire means you have to believe what you're doing (Because fire is one of the shittiest ways to die), but he was still batshit crazy and wrong.
I will say that going out by lighting yourself on fire means you have to believe what you're doing (Because fire is one of the shittiest ways to die), but he was still batshit crazy and wrong.
I'd say the two go together though. If you believe in something that strongly, your mind probably isn't in the best place to be logical about it either. It's a bit of a Catch 22 I suppose; you believe so strongly you're not objective about it, which weakens your message.
Pro tip for everyone out there: Don't fucking light yourself on fucking fire.
After speaking with other witnesses, he said that the man was walking toward an area where a group of Trump supporters were gathered and started throwing colorful pieces of paper in the air which grabbed attention from onlookers. After tossing the papers, the man then doused himself with a flammable liquid, presumably gasoline, and lit himself on fire.
This sounds too gay to be a Trump supporter, throwing colourful paper to get attention before setting yourself on fire?
I'm more worried about a guy suddenly going dark and missing fertiliser with heavy machinery if it was someone on the right.
This ironically reads like a gaslight, like the establishment arranged for a mentally ill person to do this and then gave him a manifesto designed to attack every 'right wing conspiracy'
like the establishment arranged for a mentally ill person to do this and then gave him a manifesto designed to attack every 'right wing conspiracy'
They...they wouldn't do such a thing!
Nah, you're on point. This dude (on a skim so far) makes some decent points, but some bad conclusions, and then invalidates everything by his actions. So this just hurts every cause that had some actually validity to it. Sketchy.
We are victims of a totalitarian con, and our own government (along with many of their allies) is about to hit us with an apocalyptic fascist world coup.
...Based?
Funny thing is, I'm only half kidding. I've only skimmed it so far, but there's a lot of truth there, even if the conclusions reached are sometimes bizarre. And obviously lighting yourself on fire proves you're a retard, and actually invalidates your own claims.
There's truth there, but he's obviously unhinged, and even with the truth, he's incredibly biased. He was captured, and couldn't look at things critically; everything he saw fed into and validated his own preconceived biases. Even when he was correct, he wasn't looking at things logically.
Again, this is just off a skim. After I read it - and I probably will - I could give him more or less credence than I am currently lending him. Again, though, the whole...you know...setting yourself on fire thing...doesn't exactly lend you credibility. Sort of the, uh, opposite.
dude is clearly delusional and probably has some kind of hero complex thinking his action will lead to awareness thanks to his well written and convincing manifesto. He will become the spark that ignites a revolution.
Dude, just like, start a youtube page. Best joke about him was on thedonald where someone says he's saying basic baby level shit and someone replies saying something like "yeah he's basically an hour of Alex Jones's show."
Yup, he's an autistic who got fixated on one particular element of cultural decay, decided everything proved that new fixation was true, and then decided to go out in a, ehem...blaze of glory.
Dude, if a right wing MAGA MAGA MAGA dude cited Gandhi, MLK, and Abraham Lincoln as peak conservativism, you'd know they're full of shit. This is clearly a psyop.
Seems kind of concerning that a guy could get incendiary material this close to a building that's ostensibly under Secret Service protection on top of having the NYPD around.
Sounds like it was just gas. Can't do all that much with gas, and it's hard to police, unless you're going to search absolutely everyone and everything for water bottles and the like.
"You're fired."
Bruh!
Lighten-up!
That joke is a slow burn.
Really? I was worried it was going to go up in smoke.
I'm going to have to ash you to stop, sir.
Please no s'more. Bit of a reach on that one
I was afraid you were going to get roasted for it.
Just had to listen to Cheech others. They can be blunt and a bit heated on the matter
Another interesting point, since people are talking psyops...in recent memory, only leftists (or lefty adjacents) have self immolated.
The idea that this is a "legitimate" Far Right™ dude is kind of suspect. I'm thinking mentally ill and easily captured guy, personally, and someone filled his head with some ideas and potentially even set him off.
Manifesto aside, nothing about the actions here scream "right wing." This is a chump that got messed with and set up.
Everyone pay attention to this guy here. Only leftists use leftist activism. The right winger builds a killdozer.
It's the final boss of virtue signaling. You care so much about Current Thing that you're willing to immolate yourself for it.
He was a leftist. He donated to only dems, etc etc.
I will say that going out by lighting yourself on fire means you have to believe what you're doing (Because fire is one of the shittiest ways to die), but he was still batshit crazy and wrong.
I'd say the two go together though. If you believe in something that strongly, your mind probably isn't in the best place to be logical about it either. It's a bit of a Catch 22 I suppose; you believe so strongly you're not objective about it, which weakens your message.
Pro tip for everyone out there: Don't fucking light yourself on fucking fire.
The only other dumbasses I can think of who immolate themselves are Buddhists/Chinese.
So are they getting psyopped into it by Chinese "friends"?
Maybe they should have made friends with Doukhobors instead.
This sounds too gay to be a Trump supporter, throwing colourful paper to get attention before setting yourself on fire?
I'm more worried about a guy suddenly going dark and missing fertiliser with heavy machinery if it was someone on the right.
He was a leftoid…
It’s all over Stupidpol, and his Substack manifesto is linked there, too…
I would link that here, but the Stupidpol connection is already all over the media, so probably best to avoid doing that, for now…
I expect this may be the end of that sub, or, at least, it will likely be locked down…
Edit: someone else linked the manifesto in another comment. See that.
lol fag
the only person who ever did burning alive right was that buddhist monk
His "manifesto" if you want to call it that https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside
This ironically reads like a gaslight, like the establishment arranged for a mentally ill person to do this and then gave him a manifesto designed to attack every 'right wing conspiracy'
They...they wouldn't do such a thing!
Nah, you're on point. This dude (on a skim so far) makes some decent points, but some bad conclusions, and then invalidates everything by his actions. So this just hurts every cause that had some actually validity to it. Sketchy.
sensible chuckle
Well he's just parroting shit the leftist media says all the time, so in a way you're right.
...Based?
Funny thing is, I'm only half kidding. I've only skimmed it so far, but there's a lot of truth there, even if the conclusions reached are sometimes bizarre. And obviously lighting yourself on fire proves you're a retard, and actually invalidates your own claims.
There's truth there, but he's obviously unhinged, and even with the truth, he's incredibly biased. He was captured, and couldn't look at things critically; everything he saw fed into and validated his own preconceived biases. Even when he was correct, he wasn't looking at things logically.
Again, this is just off a skim. After I read it - and I probably will - I could give him more or less credence than I am currently lending him. Again, though, the whole...you know...setting yourself on fire thing...doesn't exactly lend you credibility. Sort of the, uh, opposite.
See settings oneself on fire is not enough to get me to read the manifesto. Try harder next guy.
dude is clearly delusional and probably has some kind of hero complex thinking his action will lead to awareness thanks to his well written and convincing manifesto. He will become the spark that ignites a revolution.
Dude, just like, start a youtube page. Best joke about him was on thedonald where someone says he's saying basic baby level shit and someone replies saying something like "yeah he's basically an hour of Alex Jones's show."
10/10 epic burn.
edit: found the quote from u/Maga0351
Yup, he's an autistic who got fixated on one particular element of cultural decay, decided everything proved that new fixation was true, and then decided to go out in a, ehem...blaze of glory.
More schizo than autist, from everything I’ve read (see Stupidpol, if you wish), but yeah, pretty much…
Well, I guess he's an hero now. Hoi!
Dude, if a right wing MAGA MAGA MAGA dude cited Gandhi, MLK, and Abraham Lincoln as peak conservativism, you'd know they're full of shit. This is clearly a psyop.
Have the archive.
https://archive.ph/ysP9U
Supposedly he was an infamous schizoposter on /r/stupidpol, so his credentials as a right-winger are in serious question.
I don’t care what you’re protesting, if you choose to send a message by lighting yourself on fire I’m gonna laugh my ass off.
https://x.com/censoredmen/status/1781396709148414344
He blames stanford, harvard and silicon valley for creating cryptocurrencies.
What a waste. He could have done a Killdozer2
Has this tactic ever worked?
Never.
It was hilarious watching liars on /pol/ try to say he's a Trump supporter.
Seems kind of concerning that a guy could get incendiary material this close to a building that's ostensibly under Secret Service protection on top of having the NYPD around.
Sounds like it was just gas. Can't do all that much with gas, and it's hard to police, unless you're going to search absolutely everyone and everything for water bottles and the like.
play stupid games, win stupid prizes. sometimes those prizes even come from yourself!