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Remember when people were saying that anime girls were better than real girls?
posted 2 years ago by yoisi 2 years ago by yoisi +34 / -0

Is that the reason there was suddenly a gigantic push to start attacking and shaming anyone who liked anime girls? Instead of telling real girls to improve their personalities, they attacked and shamed guys for liking anime girls.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 49 points 2 years ago +49 / -0

Holding women accountable is a bridge that the left and and unfortunately large portion of the right absolutely refuse to cross. So many of our fucked up social norms and laws are in place so women can offload accountability for their shitty choices onto the nearest man.

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– acp_k2win 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

The WQ is the furthest frontier of basedness that very few men are willing to inhabit.

Even the idea of holding women accountable implies that, given the correct incentive structure, they have the capability to make correct moral decisions which are contrary to their inherent natures.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

Which is why functioning societies make them their father's and then husband's problem and give those men the authority to force them to act morally.

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– MargarineMongoose 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

And why society's that don't will implode, as we are currently witnessing.

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– current_horror 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

The WQ is trickier because you absolutely need women to propagate both your genetic line and your society.

No one needs hostile foreign elites for anything at all.

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– Ahaus667 28 points 2 years ago +28 / -0

Women hate anything that can compete with them, they hate anime girls because it’s a standard they must compete with while demanding a man with the 6/6/6 set. Trust me, in 5-10 years when the artificial womb is growing humans, women will absolutely lose their shit collectively because it will completely remove them from human procreation.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

It's the same reason they're against prostitution and age gap relationships. They need a chump to pay for 20+ years of bad choices and all these things dry up the simp supply.

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– Bouldabassed 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

The seething about age gap relationships is definitely a problem caused by terminal feminism, but it is also a problem that the elites have social engineered. The elites that can't stop screeching from the rooftops about how we are overpopulated have everything to gain by making it unacceptable for a 35 year old man to date a 23 year old girl. Such things artificially decrease the window within which a man can marry and have children.

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– rebuildingMyself 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Oh but in some feminist strongholds like Sweden they hate prostitution so they only punish the men using said services. The women are free to play the game without any fear of the same thugs arresting her

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– PlagueRat27 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

And have who raise them, two faggots?

Women, and moms, are completely irreplaceable.

Dads and moms are important. I’m sorry everyone in this thread has had such bad luck with the women in their life.

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– Ahaus667 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Moms are completely replaceable by every study on single parenting. Boys bodies quit literally start dying earlier without a father. There is no physical deterioration from not having a mom. The single largest indicator for crime and poverty are single moms, single dads are equivalent to lower middle income 2 parent households.

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– PlagueRat27 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I’ll be sure to tell my nursing son that while his mom is rocking him to sleep 👌🏻

You went from mom’s are useless - dads are important - single moms are bad

Dads are important. So are moms. It’s almost like they’re meant to raise children together.

To act like moms don’t matter just shows what a fucked up world view you truly have

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– Ahaus667 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

To act like moms don’t matter just shows what a fucked up world view you truly have

No it just shows that you will always follow your preconceived biases over what every bit of data shows.

To act like moms don’t matter just shows what a fucked up world view you truly have

Moms can matter. The overwhelming majority don’t, sorry that hurts your feelings.

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– PlagueRat27 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Enjoy feeding goyslop formula and having the state raise your child while you work due to your irrational hatred of women 👌🏻

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Moms are completely replaceable by every study on single parenting.

They're studies. They are bullshit lol

The single largest indicator for crime and poverty are single moms, single dads are equivalent to lower middle income 2 parent households.

If low crime and poverty was the only necessary ingredient of a successful society, then the Jewish elite would be perfectly OK.

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– Ahaus667 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

They're studies. They are bullshit lol

Yes, such bullshit that boys telomeres have been shown to shorten by up to 15% when they don’t have a father.

If low crime and poverty was the only necessary ingredient of a successful society, then the Jewish elite would be perfectly OK.

Come back to me when you can make that legible

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– Kienan 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Yes, such bullshit that boys telomeres have been shown to shorten by up to 15% when they don’t have a father.

Intentionally or otherwise, you just did a massive goalpost shift. You guys were arguing about whether moms were replaceable, and your counterpoint was that dads weren't. No one argued that they were; I think everyone here agrees that fathers are very important.

Also, boys needs fathers, yes. But if we're doing hypothetical scenarios like your artificial womb scenario, you could technically argue for an "artificial father" scenario too. The telomere gap is, I'd imagine, due to physical activity. Boys with more male influence are likely to exercise more, or have more testosterone which will likely result in more exercise as well. So if that's the argument for needing a father (which again, I agree is very important, and I'm just arguing the technical aspects here, not making an actual proposal), more male teachers, or more focus on PE, or state-mandated camping or eventually military service...all kinds of things would have the same or greater effect on telomeres specifically as a father, I'd wager. Again, not arguing for those things, just pointing out that you can make all kinds of hypotheticals.

Thinking about it, though, I bet more male teachers would actually solve some serious issues, like the lowered average testosterone levels we're seeing. A whole lot of things need to be re-normalized, including both fatherhood and male teachers.

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– Ahaus667 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Also, boys needs fathers, yes. But if we're doing hypothetical scenarios like your artificial womb scenario, you could technically argue for an "artificial father" scenario too. The telomere gap is, I'd imagine, due to physical activity. Boys with more male influence are likely to exercise more, or have more testosterone which will likely result in more exercise as well.

That’s not why genetic aging occurs. The telomeres degradation has nothing to do with exercise and everything to do with an actual biological need for a father. Your hypothetical is grossly incorrect, and well just hilariously stupid if you took 5 seconds to think about it.

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– Kienan 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

You're saying a lot of things, and saying it with confidence, but without anything to back it up.

Telomeres do react (significantly) to exercise. My theory is just as good, if not better, than your magic father idea.

And, again, I'm not denying the importance of fathers; they're incredibly important. I just think your argument as to why is a little silly.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Yes, such bullshit that boys telomeres have been shown to shorten by up to 15% when they don’t have a father.

But when they don't have a mother there's no negative effect at all? That's obviously bullshit. It occurred to me, though, that you don't even have studies that conclude that.

Come back to me when you can make that legible

Staying out of trouble and having a career is the bare minimum to be a functioning part of society. It doesn't preclude other negative effects, some of them very significant.

"The Jews are successful and have low crime" is the most basic talking point to deflect criticism of their group.

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– Ahaus667 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

But when they don't have a mother there's no negative effect at all? That's obviously bullshit. It occurred to me, though, that you don't even have studies that conclude that.

Yes they do, the reason it’s notable is it’s THE ONLY COMBINATION that has that effect. Daughters aren’t impacted by a loss of either parent in their telomeres, sons aren’t impacted by the loss of a mother. Studies have control groups…

Staying out of trouble and having a career is the bare minimum to be a functioning part of society. It doesn't preclude other negative effects, some of them very significant.

And when the bare minimum is a statistical achievement compared to your peers?

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Yes they do, the reason it’s notable is it’s THE ONLY COMBINATION that has that effect. Daughters aren’t impacted by a loss of either parent in their telomeres, sons aren’t impacted by the loss of a mother. Studies have control groups…

I'm talking about a much broader scope than telomeres.

And when the bare minimum is a statistical achievement compared to your peers?

Then congratulations, you may have a chance at saving the country.

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– Assassin47 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

women will absolutely lose their shit

They'll pressure government to make sure it doesn't happen.

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– RondoOBlongo 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

It's because the societal shaming didn't work

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– SoctaticMethod1 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Because a lot of women can't introspect and lash out when they aren't getting their way.

I mean when you look at the most popular of the anime girls, you see it ain't all skin deep like these harpies claim it is. For example, Marin Kitagawa from My dress up darling really comes to mind as why is she so popular? Yes she's very attractive but she's also very understanding, attentive, praises Gojo on his efforts and gives equally into the relationship (she works to financially help getting the resources needed to cosplay)

Then look up a hated female character, Bitch from Rising of the Shield hero, manipulative , only cares about herself and her own benefit over others, refuses to accept responsibility and sees loyalty as a waste of time.

Take a personality test as if you're more the latter than the first one, YOU'RE the problem. Men will accept average looks or even disfigurement like scars if they have all the qualities of the first example.

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– Kienan 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Because a lot of women can't introspect and lash out when they aren't getting their way.

I saw an interesting comment on another similar topic today, that I hadn't thought about in precisely that way. When it comes to fiction, men largely want aspiration/inspiration. Women want representation. If a man sees someone better than them, they want to better themselves. Women don't want to see women better than them. Many want to see "It's Literally Me™" doing all the things they do in their boring lives.

Our rather feminized society hates things like anime girls because, unlike females in modern Western entertainment, they hold up ideals and are portrayed as something that would take effort to do. It's not all bitchy drama and putting the Patriarchy and Men in their place.

It's the basic progressive/communist mindset, where anything not of the hive is an enemy. Anime girls are not what they want modern girls to be; thus, they are the enemy and must be destroyed. It's really that simple. They're not with them, so they're against them.

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– Grant_us_eyes 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Back when AI started taking off and giving us glorious visages of gorgeous women en masse, women on twitter tried to shame men's behavior by throwing out AI generated images of handsome men.

Naturally, it didn't work. But it shows how women operate mentally; they expected men to be intimidated, whereas most men who see who see stuff like that just shrug and move on with life.

Women look at beautiful women and feel intimidated. Men look at attractive men and typically go 'Nice gains, brah'. We recognized that alot of that shit takes hard work and dedication(when natty), and often respond with respect and admiration.

Whereas, if you want to see some blood in the water, throw an attractive women in a social group of 'normal' women, and watch the fur fly...

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Men will accept average looks or even disfigurement like scars if they have all the qualities of the first example.

Every weirdo monster girl from dozens of animes and video games would like to know your location. Men will pick literal abominations like SCP-1471 and romanticize it into a cute stalker waifu. Women have to have reached a general level of unfathomably intolerable for this to happen to such an extent. Women have come to a spiritual/intellectual ceiling they refuse to push hard enough to break through and transform themselves into something better.

It seems SCP-1471-A is only lonely.

She's literally me. :(

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– SoctaticMethod1 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

This is one of those shower thoughts in my head:

I think the reason we have so much R34 of so many things from monsters, beastmen and villains is that guys find it easier to think 'I can fix her' than MODERN WOMEN.

Hell the amount of shit I've seen of Japanese stuff from the woman from the Ring to that 8 ft ghost woman tells me guys would rather take on supernatural horrors than deal with the current dating scene..

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I have definitely seen the monster girl be turned into a wonderful and lovely person worthy of adoration and respect, who is now only a monster on the outside; the snakegirl who just wants a hug, the wifwolf that wants someone to be equally loyal to her, the oni who is happy to help you do weight training and make you into a man worthy of carrying her off.

My mind boggles at the number of women men must have tried to fix or help out, only to be bitten by them and think to themselves "what a waste of time, I'll never try that again." I know I have one of those personalities that attracts the daddy-issues women and I've tried being their therapist and getting them to fix their shit, but it never takes. Most weren't even ones I was in a relationship with, just nearby at the time; co-workers, neighbors, sister of friends, etc. Gimme the manticore any day, I like my odds with that one better.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

There you go again, expecting women to have some self-awareness and introspection.

WOMEN 👏 ARE 👏 KWEENS 👏 IT'S 👏 ALWAYS 👏 MEN'S 👏 FAULT

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– YesMovement 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

ANIME WOMEN ARE WOMEN

Like them or you're a bigot

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– RoulerBleu 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

ANIME WOMEN ARE WOMEN

Sailor Moon in red is real though.

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– alucard13mmfmj 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

us weebs just want to be left alone, more importantly, our content left alone.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I remember the whole beginning of this and how everything transpired.

What really happened is this...

When the "alt-right" movement was first gaining popularity in the beginning of Donald Trump it was incredibly anti-women relative to the mainstream. Anyone who was a dissident toward the female influence in mainstream society was dialed-in to the "alt-right" movement at this time. That would have included guys like Imp1 and all the gamergate crowd. The pinnacle move Trump did to bolster this support was when the girl asked Trump about if someone should earn the same as men and Trump responded that if they did the same work they should get paid the same. Such an obvious and true statement at the time was considered misogynistic and it was "offensive" but it secured the support of all the men who were fed up with our gynocratic society at the time. This crowd started pushing 2D > 3D or the whole liking anime girls better than real girls. At first it was a bit of a running gag with some truth to it but in reality there was a lot more truth to it than people originally let on which is why it stuck so well.

Where things started going downhill is when Trump was gaining serious support among the average "normie" people of America. The suburban moms and the blue-collar average joe guys. The Q types, along with the women who all think they're NAWALT (Not All Women Are Like That; IE. they think they're exceptional and not like the liberal women). These people don't understand much of what's going on in society and found the anti-female supporters of Trump to be offensive and believed these supporters were detracting from the movement with their misogyny. Trump himself pivoted entirely away from the pro-male crowd to bolster his female support. This led to Trump supporters naturally trying to distance themselves from the anti-female crowd and attacking the nerds for their taste in anime was how they'd do it. Women always attack men who don't like women because that's an affront to women and cucked men who worship women (simps) generally attack men for the same because these men think a man's value is based on what kinds of women he can get so if they only like 2D women, it's because he can't get women so he has no value as a man. These are generally your low-class tradcucked men and room temperature IQ "professional" men. This is what eventually dominated the Trump movement and that's why eventually it seemed like the pro-2D crowd died off and went away because they no longer were a part of any large political movement. These people are still around but a lot of them aren't involved in politics because none of the current favorites within any party are pro-men/anti-women anymore.

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– Daucus9 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

I don't know how you can shame the herbivores for liking anime more than people, it's kind of a definition that they've already crossed the shame rubicon and have given up having a relationship with another human.

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– Adamrises 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

That's why the last decade saw incels go from "a bunch of impotent guys angrily screaming online" to the literal biggest threat to everyone ever.

Because the shaming stopped working, heck it was starting to backfire into things like MGTOW. So instead they convinced society that they were dangerous and thereby needed to be driven to kill themselves or jailed.

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