To nice for the current state of politics. Great guy, I honestly wanted him to stay in Florida. He is doing great as an example of non-left leadership.
Nah great timing. He can run for President every 4 or 8 years forever.
He articulated kind of a different way, and kept on doing that until he gave up. He's bowed out early enough not to get in a drag out fight with Trump, whom I think he just endorsed.
This is highly concerning to me. I REALLY wish he or Vivek had stayed in until Haley gave up. As it stands now, with it just being Trump and Haley, I'm afraid that there will be a sudden increase in court pressure to get Trump declared unable to run and the RNC may start saying "Oh, well, Trump's disqualified and everyone else dropped out so I guess Haley is the candidate!"
The fun part about Trump's supporters is if the RNC doesn't pick him most of them will just cease to listen to the RNC, and that will open a conversation about why we are forced to vote for what these unelected "groups" decide are the only two candidates.
Which neither side wants that wake up, and is why the RNC even picked Trump in 2016 to begin with after their own pushed candidates failed.
I think the establishment would be more scared of an independent Trump than a Republican one. Suddenly, MAGA supporters, numbering in the tens of millions would be running around talking about building an independent party.
The Republicans would basically die, and independent populism would be more mainstream now than with Ross Perot.
Yeah exactly. As much as the establishment will do to keep him off the ticket, they will eventually fold as the alternative is much worse for them. Keeping people within the system misbehaving is a lot better option than them escaping entirely.
Maxime Bernier has proven how downright retarded boomers can be when it comes to voting, so I honestly think Trump losing due to not being part of the RNC could be a civil war flashpoint.
Honestly this is pretty concerning now that I think about it. The left would rather declare that there will be no election and that the US is now a dictatorship before they'll ever allow Trump to be on the ballot. And then you got this Haley who is a literally who, totally unelectable. Guess we're gonna get 4 more years of Senile Pedo Joe (just kidding they'll put him out to pasture and make Harris the new president), cause they will never, ever, EVER let Trump win, no matter what.
I hope he can bounce back to become a good force for populism for years to come. Really hoping he can continue laying a good foundation and setting a good example in Florida.
His post on this thread looked suspicious as hell and if you told me he was part of the DeSantis campaign staff and decided for some reason to infiltrate this site I wouldn't be surprised. I've got my gripes against Trump but the fact there are weirdos going so far as to start shit on being blunt fairly small sites like this shows you how weird things have gotten.
I still remember this weirdo who clearly had too much time on his hands trying to argue with me about covid on Gab and then when I started poking him more about his profession he turned out to be some kind of researcher. Obviously wouldn't reveal details, but it's just another reminder guys that psyops are real and we need to watch out for each other.
I have never received any money for anything I posted anywhere.
I say what I think and feel.
I think DeSantis is a better candidate than Trump so I supported him. I think it is good he dropped out before the Florida primary. Losing your own state looks really bad if you want to run again in the future.
Iowa chose Trump and we will have to live with the consequences.
If Trump loses the general election, I will be pointing the finger at the people who nominated him.
If anyone still foolishly thinks I am a paid shill, go fuck yourself.
Plenty of people volunteer for campaign staff for free :) not the slightest bit bothered about annoying you because I remember on reddit when there were Andrew Yang activists trying to spam the MRA subreddit in an effort to recruit them. You don't seem to appreciate just how much people hate the political class and the people who do activism for them.
If you wanted to ingratiate yourself to this site in any capacity you should have posted what DeSantis would do for gamers. As ever though most people in politics completely ignore that demographic at best or actively shit on them at worse.
I don't care about GOP primaries, I keep an eye on what goes on in America because it has a massive impact on geo-politics and the potential for WW3. As for the UK as far as I'm concerned this country is lost so why concern myself with it and cause unnecessary stress? Better to be pragmatic.
By the way, if you don't want foreigners concerning themselves with your country you should maybe do something about the military-industrial complex and the CIA.
"if Trump loses the general 😢😢😢" if your little faggot boy can't even beat Trump he isn't winning the general, so now I'm going to laugh at you twice for being a double-faggot and doubling down on your faggotry
He got paid to run by the Murdochs with a 10 million dollar book deal, and his campaign was run by all the worst parts of the establishment GOP machine, like Karl Rove. Those people have all switched to the dumb cunt warmonger, so DeSantis was left out in the cold. Hundreds of millions spent on a kamikaze campaign that was always going to go nowhere, and now his political brand is tarnished forever.
Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but I'm much more skeptical of him after seeing who he was willing to work with. And how he behaved like a little bitch by kicking independent journalists out of his events. And how he clearly had no control over some of his campaign staffers that went nuclear on people (for instance milquetoast Tim Pool) over nothing.
Was about to post this so deleted mine, yeah unfortunately bitch is still left so expect the media to insinuate she has a shot as it's 'between two candidates' when there's only two candidates left.
It's like saying a human has a shot at existing after being hit by a Warthog attack run
I'm happy that they are. It'll increase the humiliation when she gets walloped in her own state, where she is trailing by more then 2-1. By extension, that will humiliate neocons.
I'd normally say this was a semi-intelligent move, but the problem is that he's already spent way too much on the campaign so he kinda fucked himself either way and he already basically tanked his future political careers and ambitions.
This is more just minimizing losses at this point, how embarrassing.
He just needs to beat up Disney more like he's the dom one in a lesbian relationship, it makes us and his entire voter base happy kicking Disney on the dick.
You're vastly overestimating his political appeal (and the results speak for themselves when he's getting fucking Nikki Haley numbers, who is literally just Indian Hilary Clinton)
This election campaign showed he has negative charisma.
This sort of circular firing squad helps no one.
Considering trustworthiness is a major issue in the Republican party, it damn well is helpful. Right now I trust DeSantis only mildly more than the obvious snakes, and he did that to himself.
You're vastly overestimating his political appeal (and the results speak for themselves when he's getting fucking Nikki Haley numbers, who is literally just Indian Hilary Clinton)
There's a Leviathan soaking up all the votes, many of which would otherwise go to DeSantis.
This election campaign showed he has negative charisma.
I have pointed that out from the beginning, which is why I think he wasn't ready this time around. He should hone his skills for 2028.
Considering trustworthiness is a major issue in the Republican party, it damn well is helpful. Right now I trust DeSantis only mildly more than the obvious snakes, and he did that to himself.
That is just bitterness. If you look at his record, it's as if the candidate was made in a laboratory to be liked by you.
When Desantis went to Israel to sign a bill criminalizing speech, he showed himself to be a standard Neocon. No mere speech can or should be criminalized in the US, and no governor of a state should be taking a trip to a foreign country to sign a bill.
He showed he wasn't a lolbertarian. He shouldn't have signed it in Israel, but these people should be discriminated against. Anyone who would use their discretionary powers to aid the Arab war effort is coming after you next.
If you look at his record, it's as if the candidate was made in a laboratory to be liked by you.
His record isn't terrible, but far from perfect.
Supporting lockdowns, tax increases on the middle class, and wars abroad (especially that cringe Ukraine shit)?
Not to mention his suspicious political ties, plus his sheer incompetence at running a political campaign and terrible fund management really makes me doubt his ability to control, well, anything on the economic front, especially on a national level.
In early 2020, nearly everyone - including Trump - supported lockdowns, and for far longer than DeSantis.
Dunno about the tax increases.
Re: Ukraine. He had the right instinct, in saying that he didn't want to get involved in a border dispute in the east of Ukraine. The backtracking made me suspicious too that he is a closet neocon, but it was probably just the fact that the anti-neocon vote was already locked up by Trump. I bet he will make his anti-neocon position far more obvious in 2028 as Trump's successor.
Yes, which is why I didn't say that Trump implemented lockdowns like dim-witted Democrats claim. He verbally supported them, and criticized some governors for getting rid of them. Ergo, supported them.
Trump supported lockdowns for longer than DeSantis.
Which is OK, people can make mistakes. But DeSantis was rather good on the coronavirus far sooner than the rest of people.
Why do you think a massive loser in 2024 is going to be the candidate in 2028? That’s not how any of this shit works. Biden, a previous loser, had to be installed.
The backtracking made me suspicious too that he is a closet neocon, but it was probably just the fact that the anti-neocon vote was already locked up by Trump.
Look, I have no ill will toward DeSantis, but this is bullshit. The fact is his donors hit the phone a friend button.
Aside from the fact that he sucked Zionist dick, he was a pretty great candidate. Oh well, at least he can continue to protect Florida from the trannies.
Man, as much as I'm not really a fan of DeSantis, as I was just commenting yesterday, his remaining job was to be a buffer against Nicki Haley. Even though more of his support will go to Trump, this will still make Haley look stronger, unless she gets almost nothing. It really is a two person race now, as Haley preemptively declared after her third place finish in Iowa.
Also..."We can't go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear..." Then why did you run on that, Ron?
This is really weird timing, too, it seems. He had other states coming up, and ones he'd been campaigning and spending money on. I get wanting to get out before Florida, but it seems like he really jumped the gun. But what do I know, I'm certainly no expert. But yeah, kind of confusing move, and not a fan. He obviously needed to do this eventually, but I wish he'd at least outlasted Nicki.
Good man. Great governor. Bad timing.
Pretty much my opinion. Let him turn Florida into paradise, and then spread it countrywide. I'm for it.
To nice for the current state of politics. Great guy, I honestly wanted him to stay in Florida. He is doing great as an example of non-left leadership.
He picked worse advisors and allies than Trump, and that's saying something.
Nah great timing. He can run for President every 4 or 8 years forever.
He articulated kind of a different way, and kept on doing that until he gave up. He's bowed out early enough not to get in a drag out fight with Trump, whom I think he just endorsed.
Good actor, more like. His pandering and playing at diplomat while still in office as governor reeked of bullshit.
This is highly concerning to me. I REALLY wish he or Vivek had stayed in until Haley gave up. As it stands now, with it just being Trump and Haley, I'm afraid that there will be a sudden increase in court pressure to get Trump declared unable to run and the RNC may start saying "Oh, well, Trump's disqualified and everyone else dropped out so I guess Haley is the candidate!"
The fun part about Trump's supporters is if the RNC doesn't pick him most of them will just cease to listen to the RNC, and that will open a conversation about why we are forced to vote for what these unelected "groups" decide are the only two candidates.
Which neither side wants that wake up, and is why the RNC even picked Trump in 2016 to begin with after their own pushed candidates failed.
I think the establishment would be more scared of an independent Trump than a Republican one. Suddenly, MAGA supporters, numbering in the tens of millions would be running around talking about building an independent party.
The Republicans would basically die, and independent populism would be more mainstream now than with Ross Perot.
Yeah exactly. As much as the establishment will do to keep him off the ticket, they will eventually fold as the alternative is much worse for them. Keeping people within the system misbehaving is a lot better option than them escaping entirely.
Maxime Bernier has proven how downright retarded boomers can be when it comes to voting, so I honestly think Trump losing due to not being part of the RNC could be a civil war flashpoint.
That aint gonna fly. Infact it will just accelerate the balkanization.
Honestly this is pretty concerning now that I think about it. The left would rather declare that there will be no election and that the US is now a dictatorship before they'll ever allow Trump to be on the ballot. And then you got this Haley who is a literally who, totally unelectable. Guess we're gonna get 4 more years of Senile Pedo Joe (just kidding they'll put him out to pasture and make Harris the new president), cause they will never, ever, EVER let Trump win, no matter what.
Nah, worst case scenario for them is Trump gets back in and they just obstruct him into irrelevance for another four years.
The only way Haley gets the nomination is if they murder Trump.
The axe is gonna fall on Trump in a month or two. Soon as they're comfortable in Haley's inevitability.
I hope he can bounce back to become a good force for populism for years to come. Really hoping he can continue laying a good foundation and setting a good example in Florida.
Philosraptor on "delete facebook" watch.
His post on this thread looked suspicious as hell and if you told me he was part of the DeSantis campaign staff and decided for some reason to infiltrate this site I wouldn't be surprised. I've got my gripes against Trump but the fact there are weirdos going so far as to start shit on being blunt fairly small sites like this shows you how weird things have gotten.
I still remember this weirdo who clearly had too much time on his hands trying to argue with me about covid on Gab and then when I started poking him more about his profession he turned out to be some kind of researcher. Obviously wouldn't reveal details, but it's just another reminder guys that psyops are real and we need to watch out for each other.
I have never received any money for anything I posted anywhere.
I say what I think and feel.
I think DeSantis is a better candidate than Trump so I supported him. I think it is good he dropped out before the Florida primary. Losing your own state looks really bad if you want to run again in the future.
Iowa chose Trump and we will have to live with the consequences.
If Trump loses the general election, I will be pointing the finger at the people who nominated him.
If anyone still foolishly thinks I am a paid shill, go fuck yourself.
Plenty of people volunteer for campaign staff for free :) not the slightest bit bothered about annoying you because I remember on reddit when there were Andrew Yang activists trying to spam the MRA subreddit in an effort to recruit them. You don't seem to appreciate just how much people hate the political class and the people who do activism for them.
If you wanted to ingratiate yourself to this site in any capacity you should have posted what DeSantis would do for gamers. As ever though most people in politics completely ignore that demographic at best or actively shit on them at worse.
I have never been a part of or even a unpaid volunteer for the DeSantis campaign.
DeSantis would aim to govern America like Florida.
This is what he offered everyone.
There is no specific thing he had to offer to gamers.
Do you like what is happening in Florida?
Good governance, no COVID mandates, no woke bullshit and protects your constitutional rights.
I'm British.
Why do you care about the GOP primaries when you live in fucking Britain?
Worry about your own country!
Labour will win a landslide in your national elections and Britain will be more worse off than even under the Rishi Sunak Tory cucks.
I don't care about GOP primaries, I keep an eye on what goes on in America because it has a massive impact on geo-politics and the potential for WW3. As for the UK as far as I'm concerned this country is lost so why concern myself with it and cause unnecessary stress? Better to be pragmatic.
By the way, if you don't want foreigners concerning themselves with your country you should maybe do something about the military-industrial complex and the CIA.
"if Trump loses the general 😢😢😢" if your little faggot boy can't even beat Trump he isn't winning the general, so now I'm going to laugh at you twice for being a double-faggot and doubling down on your faggotry
You Trumpkin faggot, many good candidates have lost GOP primaries before while bad candidates won the primary and then lost the general.
Winning a primary is useless if you cannot win the general.
I will laugh when you clowns cry on election night that it was rigged when Trump loses again.
I would not dignify such paranoid insanity with an answer.
To everyone with a brain, it is obvious that you are not a shill, let alone a paid one. And no one cares about the opinions of the rest.
Shill is ridiculous, dumbfuck retard that's coping and seething for the past year is true tho
He just supported a different candidate than you did. That's it. He's been part of KiA2 since before the exodus from KiA.
Should have done this months ago.
He got paid to run by the Murdochs with a 10 million dollar book deal, and his campaign was run by all the worst parts of the establishment GOP machine, like Karl Rove. Those people have all switched to the dumb cunt warmonger, so DeSantis was left out in the cold. Hundreds of millions spent on a kamikaze campaign that was always going to go nowhere, and now his political brand is tarnished forever.
My hope is he carves out a little kingdom in Florida and helps maintain it as a bright red stronghold.
How so?
Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but I'm much more skeptical of him after seeing who he was willing to work with. And how he behaved like a little bitch by kicking independent journalists out of his events. And how he clearly had no control over some of his campaign staffers that went nuclear on people (for instance milquetoast Tim Pool) over nothing.
Also, the Israel stunt didn't help anything.
He's a Jew jerker and and establishment money lover, and a traitor.
Yeah but that's his brand.
Book deals are so obviously bribery that it’s honestly embarrassing for everyone.
Was about to post this so deleted mine, yeah unfortunately bitch is still left so expect the media to insinuate she has a shot as it's 'between two candidates' when there's only two candidates left.
It's like saying a human has a shot at existing after being hit by a Warthog attack run
I'm happy that they are. It'll increase the humiliation when she gets walloped in her own state, where she is trailing by more then 2-1. By extension, that will humiliate neocons.
I'm honestly shocked.
I'd normally say this was a semi-intelligent move, but the problem is that he's already spent way too much on the campaign so he kinda fucked himself either way and he already basically tanked his future political careers and ambitions.
This is more just minimizing losses at this point, how embarrassing.
Nah he'll be fine
He just needs to beat up Disney more like he's the dom one in a lesbian relationship, it makes us and his entire voter base happy kicking Disney on the dick.
Most pro-Trump like him, and the rest will come around if Trump endorses him in 2028.
This sort of circular firing squad helps no one.
In 2000, GOP could choose between Bush and McCain. If you don't like either Trump or DeSantis, just imagine what a gem he is compared to that.
You're vastly overestimating his political appeal (and the results speak for themselves when he's getting fucking Nikki Haley numbers, who is literally just Indian Hilary Clinton)
This election campaign showed he has negative charisma.
Considering trustworthiness is a major issue in the Republican party, it damn well is helpful. Right now I trust DeSantis only mildly more than the obvious snakes, and he did that to himself.
There's a Leviathan soaking up all the votes, many of which would otherwise go to DeSantis.
I have pointed that out from the beginning, which is why I think he wasn't ready this time around. He should hone his skills for 2028.
That is just bitterness. If you look at his record, it's as if the candidate was made in a laboratory to be liked by you.
When Desantis went to Israel to sign a bill criminalizing speech, he showed himself to be a standard Neocon. No mere speech can or should be criminalized in the US, and no governor of a state should be taking a trip to a foreign country to sign a bill.
He showed he wasn't a lolbertarian. He shouldn't have signed it in Israel, but these people should be discriminated against. Anyone who would use their discretionary powers to aid the Arab war effort is coming after you next.
His record isn't terrible, but far from perfect.
Supporting lockdowns, tax increases on the middle class, and wars abroad (especially that cringe Ukraine shit)?
Not to mention his suspicious political ties, plus his sheer incompetence at running a political campaign and terrible fund management really makes me doubt his ability to control, well, anything on the economic front, especially on a national level.
At least Desantis didn't support the creation of the vaccines in the first place.
In early 2020, nearly everyone - including Trump - supported lockdowns, and for far longer than DeSantis.
Dunno about the tax increases.
Re: Ukraine. He had the right instinct, in saying that he didn't want to get involved in a border dispute in the east of Ukraine. The backtracking made me suspicious too that he is a closet neocon, but it was probably just the fact that the anti-neocon vote was already locked up by Trump. I bet he will make his anti-neocon position far more obvious in 2028 as Trump's successor.
Desantis' hopes for 28 if he has any, all hinge on Trump losing 24. If Trump wins 24, whoever he picks for VP will most likely be the nominee in 28.
If Trump loses in 2024, the deluge will probably sweep away any Trumpist candidate, including DeSantis.
What are you talking about? There were no lockdowns on the federal level and he spoke out against them, all lockdowns were done by states.
Yes, which is why I didn't say that Trump implemented lockdowns like dim-witted Democrats claim. He verbally supported them, and criticized some governors for getting rid of them. Ergo, supported them.
Trump supported lockdowns for longer than DeSantis.
Which is OK, people can make mistakes. But DeSantis was rather good on the coronavirus far sooner than the rest of people.
Why do you think a massive loser in 2024 is going to be the candidate in 2028? That’s not how any of this shit works. Biden, a previous loser, had to be installed.
Reagan: massive loser in 1968, slight loser in 1976.
Of course, DeSantis is no Reagan, at least qua charisma, but your general rule definitely does not apply.
Look, I have no ill will toward DeSantis, but this is bullshit. The fact is his donors hit the phone a friend button.
Aside from the fact that he sucked Zionist dick, he was a pretty great candidate. Oh well, at least he can continue to protect Florida from the trannies.
Well finally he does the less-retarded thing.
Governor of Florida making groomers seethe and dilate is his qualification.
He's peak MIGA though. What a shame.
Ron DeSantis made the right choice.
The GOP primary electorate clearly wants to run Trump again based on the Iowa caucus.
I am proud to have supported Ron DeSantis in this cycle.
Trump has now won the 2024 GOP primary, now he needs to actually win the general election.
I think that for some, it's not whether you want him to run again, but whether you can afford to reject him when he is.
Man, as much as I'm not really a fan of DeSantis, as I was just commenting yesterday, his remaining job was to be a buffer against Nicki Haley. Even though more of his support will go to Trump, this will still make Haley look stronger, unless she gets almost nothing. It really is a two person race now, as Haley preemptively declared after her third place finish in Iowa.
Also..."We can't go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear..." Then why did you run on that, Ron?
This is really weird timing, too, it seems. He had other states coming up, and ones he'd been campaigning and spending money on. I get wanting to get out before Florida, but it seems like he really jumped the gun. But what do I know, I'm certainly no expert. But yeah, kind of confusing move, and not a fan. He obviously needed to do this eventually, but I wish he'd at least outlasted Nicki.
It's going to be interesting who follows DeSantis' endorsement and who was really just suffering under TDS this whole time.
You already see the TDS crowd pivoting to Kennedy. Just like the Haley crowd will pivot to Biden. Fake conservatives.
True TDS will go Biden. Those who are somewhat sincere about being anti-establishment will go Kennedy.
That is actually surprising he endorsed Trump. Saving face to his constituents? Probably but still has some spine left to say it is worth something.
Everyone point at Philosoraptor and laugh