And the NRA has been all but disavowed by the gun community because of their willingness to "compromise" and the fact that they have operated as Wayne La Pierre's slush fund for 30 years.
The NRA has not been a part of any of the significant legal battles that have been clawing back gun rights since Bruen. Their primary value now is as a decoy for idiot leftists to mindlessly target for protests and political screeds while the real gun advocacy groups do their work in the background.
the NRA has been all but disavowed by the gun community
Tell that to my liberal Fudd neighbors who despite owning guns believe the NRA is an evil political activist group that only exists to do the bidding of Republicans and kill schoolchildren.
But you addressed that in the decoy part. So maybe we shouldn't tell them.
You cannot be "conservative" and believe women should have any say in politics. Once you understand this to be true, then you'll easily be able to figure out how "conservative" a political group involving only women is.
For the majority due to a higher collectivist bias, probably but there are some great conservative women around.
The biggest historical one would probably be Olga of Kiev, what's more conservative than raising your son to be a great leader and sticking by your husband with a 'till death do us part.....and if anyone is the cause of your death, I'm genociding their whole fucking society!'
Exceptions don't make the rule. Even though exceptional women do exist, we would be better off if we pretended these women didn't exist and treated all women as inferior to men rather than trying to figure out who the exceptional women are and are not.
Listen, if we find out there's another badass bitch like that living in this world right now, I'm giving the same rights as us guys, as I like having my reproductive organs intact and in working order.
Plus she'd be WAY more conservative than a lot of men (points to those in blue cities)
How will you determine another woman like that? The problem is that every woman will claim they are like that and you will be deceived and then we'll end up worse off, aka now. The only way to ensure we don't get a now is to ban all women from politics, regardless of their merit. And besides, even Olga would have served a greater purpose if she simply supported a man and raised children without partaking in industry or politics. For every Olga there are exceptional individual men who would be better at politics than even her.
Is it better to have the fig leaf of "a voice" over naked tyranny, or to have no formal political power but have your interests represented?
Conservative women should understand that in the absence of universal suffrage, they would live in a world where their political goals are a foregone conclusion rather than a borderline impossibility.
Killcount and inventiveness of kills, if she shows me that she managed to convince a bunch of pedos to host a drag show in an isolated building and set it on fire with them inside but make it look like an electrical fire, if she's single, I'm getting down on one knee and saying 'please marry me, have my kids and let's vote the demons out or do it your way if we can't get caught' (joking about the murder obviously)
It seems a very similar parallel to "Based Black Man": within a proper (functional) environment they can hold even higher standards than the average man. But given improper incentives...well we see the effects today.
Me and Imp are both about as "anti-women" and "pro-men" as they come but yes, we seem to have very different conceptions of what the ideal to realize that is.
I would say I am very much the pinnacle of what a pure patriarchy would be while still trying to sustain and grow a civilization by incorporating women in said society, whereas Imp seems to be more focused on entirely removing men from having any relationship to women whatsoever regardless of the impacts this would have on society or its sustainability.
Imp seems to be more focused on entirely removing men from having any relationship to women whatsoever regardless of the impacts this would have on society or its sustainability.
He claims that is a tactic to pressure women into doing what we want. If you point out that it won't work because women would indeed let the species be destroyed to keep acting however the hell they want to act, he will simply say that proves he is right about women.
Yes, I've had the argument with him before. I think it's a very weak spot in his thinking. My take is that he's so blinded by his anger at women (justified anger, imo) enough he wants to completely remove anything to do with them before he cares to think of anything surrounding this. He's set on this goal and perhaps if this is ever realized then he'd focus on figuring things out.
A decent comparison might be two tribes that have warned with each other for decades and are in the peak of the war. Someone in the tribe says "are you sure we should kill all the men, what about rebuilding after the war, won't we need all the manpower we can get? Wouldn't enslaving them make more sense?" But everyone is so blinded by their rage at their enemy they can't think this far ahead and completely dismiss the idea. Only after the war and the implications of it are starting to be realized might someone be like hmm maybe we should have enslaved the men.
As a liberal, he wants "liberation" from his own "gender role." He hides this behind claims of strategy or spite, but that's a huge motivation for him.
I'm stuck on the liars that are just cheaters. But, they believe they're monogomous because one part didn't know the relationship was open on the others side. You know those cheaters don't think they're poly. They are, they're just not very ethical to their non poly partner.
A walking std is a walking std no matter what they call themselves.
Vocally? Continuation of their line, mostly. Women start learning how to be social terrorists when they're like six years old. It's just not the kind of shit you want to start. The best you can reasonably do is find a woman who isn't politically involved by choice.
That, and women got the 19th without the 19th. Repealing it would be like trying to fix morbid obesity by hiding it with more flattering clothes.
"Childless or unmarried" is doing a lot of lifting in that statement. I doubt Trump won that subset of white women anyway, but I'm not sure if there is good data on it.
And I'm not for repealing the 19th, although the data says the country would be far better without it- Trump would have slaughtered Biden.
And you can make the same argument about black people. And that ignores the fact that a majority of white women vote Republican. No bloc of the black vote is majority Republican.
And I'm not for repealing the 15th either. I'm just fed up with the faggy MGTOW types flooding the right.
We got a play boys! Destroy feminism by rolling the tranny grenade under the tent of any significant advocacy organization.
Either they go full TERF and become ostracized and insignificant in current year, or they go full tranny and get rolled into the gay commie agenda to be purged when the pendulum swings.
Your mistake is thinking they stand for anything. They only stand against white Christian patriarchy. They will always find a reason to ignore their differences so long as everyone can agree on destroying the primary target. If the existence of mutually exclusive principles among their coalition could lead to dissolution, it would have happened decades ago.
So how conservative are they truly, can they answer these yes/no questions:
Are you completely pro 2nd ammendment, no buts?
Death penalty for pedophiles found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?
Monogamous relationships
Replacing the US border with type of security on par with the Korean DMZ
Repealing all Abortion laws
Homeschooling
Removal of conscription or making it apply to both genders
If they say yes to all then they can keep the name and group, no to any and you fight to keep the men out on your own.
TBF background checks and waiting periods (all supported by the NRA) are "buts"
And the NRA has been all but disavowed by the gun community because of their willingness to "compromise" and the fact that they have operated as Wayne La Pierre's slush fund for 30 years.
The NRA has not been a part of any of the significant legal battles that have been clawing back gun rights since Bruen. Their primary value now is as a decoy for idiot leftists to mindlessly target for protests and political screeds while the real gun advocacy groups do their work in the background.
You can rely on the NRA blaming violent video games like clockwork every mass shooting.
I will say though, the pure correlation, timeline-wise, is persuasive for someone who hasn't thought much about the cultural wreckage of the US.
The GOA and FPC are MUCH better organizations to support for pro-firearms ownership and 2A rights.
Tell that to my liberal Fudd neighbors who despite owning guns believe the NRA is an evil political activist group that only exists to do the bidding of Republicans and kill schoolchildren.
But you addressed that in the decoy part. So maybe we shouldn't tell them.
Yep, you're either pro 2nd amendment completely or a Liberty safe employee.
But they're for free trade and high gdp, the ultimate conservatism!
You can sell a box of dogshit for $10 back and forth and it'll count as a $20 increase in GDP.
It doesn't matter if noone can build any wealth as long as the graph go up!
They're owned by private equity so...
You cannot be "conservative" and believe women should have any say in politics. Once you understand this to be true, then you'll easily be able to figure out how "conservative" a political group involving only women is.
For the majority due to a higher collectivist bias, probably but there are some great conservative women around.
The biggest historical one would probably be Olga of Kiev, what's more conservative than raising your son to be a great leader and sticking by your husband with a 'till death do us part.....and if anyone is the cause of your death, I'm genociding their whole fucking society!'
Exceptions don't make the rule. Even though exceptional women do exist, we would be better off if we pretended these women didn't exist and treated all women as inferior to men rather than trying to figure out who the exceptional women are and are not.
Listen, if we find out there's another badass bitch like that living in this world right now, I'm giving the same rights as us guys, as I like having my reproductive organs intact and in working order.
Plus she'd be WAY more conservative than a lot of men (points to those in blue cities)
How will you determine another woman like that? The problem is that every woman will claim they are like that and you will be deceived and then we'll end up worse off, aka now. The only way to ensure we don't get a now is to ban all women from politics, regardless of their merit. And besides, even Olga would have served a greater purpose if she simply supported a man and raised children without partaking in industry or politics. For every Olga there are exceptional individual men who would be better at politics than even her.
A truly exceptional "conservative" woman would understand this and would advocate against women as a result.
Is it better to have the fig leaf of "a voice" over naked tyranny, or to have no formal political power but have your interests represented?
Conservative women should understand that in the absence of universal suffrage, they would live in a world where their political goals are a foregone conclusion rather than a borderline impossibility.
Killcount and inventiveness of kills, if she shows me that she managed to convince a bunch of pedos to host a drag show in an isolated building and set it on fire with them inside but make it look like an electrical fire, if she's single, I'm getting down on one knee and saying 'please marry me, have my kids and let's vote the demons out or do it your way if we can't get caught' (joking about the murder obviously)
Once you allow exceptions, you are admitting its just your personal bias and how much you like them defining who is and isn't worthy.
It seems a very similar parallel to "Based Black Man": within a proper (functional) environment they can hold even higher standards than the average man. But given improper incentives...well we see the effects today.
It's weird watching this sentiment contrast with TheImp's "women did Nazism."
Me and Imp are both about as "anti-women" and "pro-men" as they come but yes, we seem to have very different conceptions of what the ideal to realize that is.
I would say I am very much the pinnacle of what a pure patriarchy would be while still trying to sustain and grow a civilization by incorporating women in said society, whereas Imp seems to be more focused on entirely removing men from having any relationship to women whatsoever regardless of the impacts this would have on society or its sustainability.
He claims that is a tactic to pressure women into doing what we want. If you point out that it won't work because women would indeed let the species be destroyed to keep acting however the hell they want to act, he will simply say that proves he is right about women.
Yes, I've had the argument with him before. I think it's a very weak spot in his thinking. My take is that he's so blinded by his anger at women (justified anger, imo) enough he wants to completely remove anything to do with them before he cares to think of anything surrounding this. He's set on this goal and perhaps if this is ever realized then he'd focus on figuring things out.
A decent comparison might be two tribes that have warned with each other for decades and are in the peak of the war. Someone in the tribe says "are you sure we should kill all the men, what about rebuilding after the war, won't we need all the manpower we can get? Wouldn't enslaving them make more sense?" But everyone is so blinded by their rage at their enemy they can't think this far ahead and completely dismiss the idea. Only after the war and the implications of it are starting to be realized might someone be like hmm maybe we should have enslaved the men.
He isn't blinded. He's just a liberal.
True but I thought being a liberal did indeed make one blind ;)
As a liberal, he wants "liberation" from his own "gender role." He hides this behind claims of strategy or spite, but that's a huge motivation for him.
I'm stuck on the liars that are just cheaters. But, they believe they're monogomous because one part didn't know the relationship was open on the others side. You know those cheaters don't think they're poly. They are, they're just not very ethical to their non poly partner.
A walking std is a walking std no matter what they call themselves.
Repeal the 19th.
It's mostly just a meme.
It’s a dumb meme. Repealing the 15th would do far more to keep shitty voters off the rolls.
Honestly these days I'm finding people who complain about "Repeal the 19th" far more annoying than those who say it.
And I'm not for repealing the 19th, although the data says the country would be far better without it- Trump would have slaughtered Biden.
Why would any sane man by against repealing the 19th?
Vocally? Continuation of their line, mostly. Women start learning how to be social terrorists when they're like six years old. It's just not the kind of shit you want to start. The best you can reasonably do is find a woman who isn't politically involved by choice.
That, and women got the 19th without the 19th. Repealing it would be like trying to fix morbid obesity by hiding it with more flattering clothes.
What a steady diet of Ben Shapiro and Ezra Levant does to a motherfucker
Trump won the White women vote.
That was pre-Dobbs. no Republican will ever win childless or unmarried white women again after Dobbs.
"Childless or unmarried" is doing a lot of lifting in that statement. I doubt Trump won that subset of white women anyway, but I'm not sure if there is good data on it.
Yeah he did. But it's such a stupid idea for women to be doing anything in leadership normally and we're all going to find out when it's too late.
And you can make the same argument about black people. And that ignores the fact that a majority of white women vote Republican. No bloc of the black vote is majority Republican.
And I'm not for repealing the 15th either. I'm just fed up with the faggy MGTOW types flooding the right.
I think we need to repeal the 18th.
Good news!
I bet that would be popular!
I believe that a lot of the anti suffragette movement originally was actually pushed by Women.
We'd do more good repealing the 17th, but getting that pushed through while women still have the vote is a tough sell.
We got a play boys! Destroy feminism by rolling the tranny grenade under the tent of any significant advocacy organization.
Either they go full TERF and become ostracized and insignificant in current year, or they go full tranny and get rolled into the gay commie agenda to be purged when the pendulum swings.
Except team terf is winning.
Your mistake is thinking they stand for anything. They only stand against white Christian patriarchy. They will always find a reason to ignore their differences so long as everyone can agree on destroying the primary target. If the existence of mutually exclusive principles among their coalition could lead to dissolution, it would have happened decades ago.
I'm Canadian so I'm used to seeing a "conservative" be 100% afraid of the trannies.
Women
That's one letter off from Soyjack.
Conservatives are progressives that drive the speed limit.
Too late buddy girl
The GOP has long since been infiltrated and subverted. We need a real opposition party.
Fucking bitches need a real woman with ovaries. JKR will address that shit for you.
Just like adding a diaperhead killed the BNP.